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Ok some people might not agree with me but thinking about getting a temporary card and backup in the future for my new pc build, have not really got the money to pay out £600-£800 for a graphics card and also dont want to spend that money yet till i have made sure my first pc build works properly and with some new cards coming out, so thoughts are to spend up to £100 on a second hard graphics card, can get a gtx 1080 for about £105, what are peoples thoughts is there a better second hand card option?

 

potentual build : 

 

9800x3d

64 gb ram

1000w psu

5070ti/9700xt (in future)

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If you just need something you can connect a monitor to, the 9800X3D does have an iGPU.

 

Really depends on what you intend to do with the temp GPU until you can buy a better one. But any money you spend on it is money you can't put towards the GPU you actually want.

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1 hour ago, daveheath999 said:

thanks for the reply, got loads of older games on steam i could play with the temp card, might not get the proper card for a while as not sure when the new nvidia cards will come out and might wait a while till i am sure they are problem free.

the 9800x3d igpu is actually pretty powerful, before spending cash on a used GPU i would give a try to the igpu first, you can always go for an RX7700XT used as spare/temp card anyway in the future

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4 hours ago, daveheath999 said:

Ok some people might not agree with me but thinking about getting a temporary card and backup in the future for my new pc build, have not really got the money to pay out £600-£800 for a graphics card and also dont want to spend that money yet till i have made sure my first pc build works properly and with some new cards coming out, so thoughts are to spend up to £100 on a second hard graphics card, can get a gtx 1080 for about £105, what are peoples thoughts is there a better second hand card option?

 

potentual build : 

 

9800x3d

64 gb ram

1000w psu

5070ti/9700xt (in future)

Not sure of what's your plan, I mean you'll spend 100 more just to temporarily use an old card before buying a new one matched to your build ?

5000 Super will come in nov/dec 25, but I don't expect prices to decrease at all, they'll likely be even more expensive...

imo it's a better deal is to get a good card now

 

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4 hours ago, daveheath999 said:

thanks for the reply, got loads of older games on steam i could play with the temp card, might not get the proper card for a while as not sure when the new nvidia cards will come out and might wait a while till i am sure they are problem free.

Personally, I think you could save some money on CPU and RAM and put that towards a more powerful GPU instead. 

 

The 9800X3D is overkill if you're not chasing highest possible framerates with a powerful GPU at low res

 

32 GB of RAM should also be good enough for a while yet.

 

You shouldn't need a 1000W PSU to drive all this either

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5 hours ago, daveheath999 said:

Ok some people might not agree with me but thinking about getting a temporary card and backup in the future for my new pc build, have not really got the money to pay out £600-£800 for a graphics card and also dont want to spend that money yet till i have made sure my first pc build works properly and with some new cards coming out, so thoughts are to spend up to £100 on a second hard graphics card, can get a gtx 1080 for about £105, what are peoples thoughts is there a better second hand card option?

 

potentual build : 

 

9800x3d

64 gb ram

1000w psu

5070ti/9700xt (in future)

You can get a EVGA 1080ti on ebay for 154 GBP:
https://ebay.us/m/RFrOw3

 

Personally I wouldn't touch 1080 because of the VRM temperature issue some of the cards suffer from.

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Why are you spending a premium to get a 9800X3D, 64GB of RAM, and a 1000W PSU if you can't afford to buy the card to go with it?

 

How about you get an R5 7500F/7600, 32GB, 750W PSU, and then use the savings to get an RTX 5060 Ti 16GB or RX 9060 XT 16GB.

 

That's going to give you a great gaming experience, and you can then upgrade both the CPU and GPU at any point in the future when you have the money.

 

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor  (£139.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£29.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£109.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£88.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£90.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9060 XT 16 GB Video Card  (£319.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (£41.22 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2023) 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£59.97 @ Amazon UK) 
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2 hours ago, YoungBlade said:

Why are you spending a premium to get a 9800X3D, 64GB of RAM, and a 1000W PSU if you can't afford to buy the card to go with it?

 

How about you get an R5 7500F/7600, 32GB, 750W PSU, and then use the savings to get an RTX 5060 Ti 16GB or RX 9060 XT 16GB.

 

That's going to give you a great gaming experience, and you can then upgrade both the CPU and GPU at any point in the future when you have the money.

 

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor  (£139.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£29.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£109.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£88.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£90.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9060 XT 16 GB Video Card  (£319.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (£41.22 @ Amazon UK) 
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Yeah, an entire gaming system for under the OP's GPU-less build.

 

7 hours ago, daveheath999 said:

Ok some people might not agree with me but thinking about getting a temporary card and backup in the future for my new pc build, have not really got the money to pay out £600-£800 for a graphics card and also dont want to spend that money yet till i have made sure my first pc build works properly and with some new cards coming out, so thoughts are to spend up to £100 on a second hard graphics card, can get a gtx 1080 for about £105, what are peoples thoughts is there a better second hand card option?

 

potentual build : 

 

9800x3d

64 gb ram

1000w psu

5070ti/9700xt (in future)

Honestly, this makes no sense to me.  I see the logic you're going for, but it's just not something I can get behind.

 

If you were specfically waiting for the Supers to come out, sure.  If you had the excess cash to buy a card now, use it til the Supers come out, then dump that card... I get that.

 

But as soon as the words:  "Have not got the money for a 600-800" GPU... means you ain't got the money to buy the 1000 startup.

 

I get that people want stuff, but man you gotta not live on the edge of payday.

 

Your money, your call.  You asked, so that's my opinion is all.  Enjoy whatever you get 🙂

 

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thanks for all the replies, will try to explain myself best i can, building my first pc so not sure its going to work out so putting the money aside for expensive gpu as dont want to spend £600-£800 now if the pc doesnt work after building, want to make sure it works and is stable before shelling out the money(worried i might have to send all the parts back if pc doesnt work so buying something(GPU) that i dont necessary need to get pc up and running is a risk in my mind so a good cheaper option is to buy a cheap gpu to make sure the system is working and test it out over lets say a couple of months), also like the idea of having a gpu backup just incase. in terms of adjusting my specs gaming it not the only thing i will be using the pc for, will be doing a lot of multitasking and my current system has 32gb and cannot handle it.

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1 hour ago, daveheath999 said:

thanks for all the replies, will try to explain myself best i can, building my first pc so not sure its going to work out so putting the money aside for expensive gpu as dont want to spend £600-£800 now if the pc doesnt work after building, want to make sure it works and is stable before shelling out the money(worried i might have to send all the parts back if pc doesnt work so buying something(GPU) that i dont necessary need to get pc up and running is a risk in my mind so a good cheaper option is to buy a cheap gpu to make sure the system is working and test it out over lets say a couple of months), also like the idea of having a gpu backup just incase. in terms of adjusting my specs gaming it not the only thing i will be using the pc for, will be doing a lot of multitasking and my current system has 32gb and cannot handle it.

Did you know that the 9800X3D has integrated graphics? You can use that to confirm the system is working before buying the graphics card. 

 

If it didn't, and you literally just needed the card to confirm the system works, you can buy a cheap old single slot, low profile card for 10 bucks, use that to confirm it works, and then toss it in a drawer as a troubleshooting tool for the future.

 

Buying a card as powerful as a GTX 1080 just to confirm the system works is where this plan stops making sense.

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Just now, daveheath999 said:

i understand, but i might not buy another gpu for a few months.

Why?

 

What will you learn "testing" the system for a few months that you can't learn in an afternoon?

 

You mentioned a current system. If this is about cash flow issues, then why not keep using your current system for a few more months until you actually have the money to buy the whole thing? In that time, the Super cards should have released, and then you'd have additional options like the 5070 Super 18GB, which could either give you better value itself or force down pricing for the 9070 XT.

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2 hours ago, daveheath999 said:

thanks for all the replies, will try to explain myself best i can, building my first pc so not sure its going to work out so putting the money aside for expensive gpu as dont want to spend £600-£800 now if the pc doesnt work after building, want to make sure it works and is stable before shelling out the money(worried i might have to send all the parts back if pc doesnt work so buying something(GPU) that i dont necessary need to get pc up and running is a risk in my mind so a good cheaper option is to buy a cheap gpu to make sure the system is working and test it out over lets say a couple of months), also like the idea of having a gpu backup just incase. in terms of adjusting my specs gaming it not the only thing i will be using the pc for, will be doing a lot of multitasking and my current system has 32gb and cannot handle it.

We know our machines are working in minutes, not months.

 

Are you THAT anxious or worry prone normally?  

 

Buy the entire machine, build it, enjoy it.  Incredibly rare for a part to be bad (there are MILLIONS or working computers the world over).  

 

Again, if it's about money, then piece meal is the way to go.  But your reasoning above is just not rooted in reality.

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7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

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NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 64GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose, Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

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thanks for the replies, i am always anxious, i tried building a pc a number of years ago and it didnt work so had to take it to a pc repair shop to get it working so very anxious about spending so much money and it not working(not necessarily because of broken parts but because something i have done wrong), i thought i would just get the minimal number of parts i need to get the pc working incase it doesnt work and i have to possibly send the parts back, then if it works decide on a gpu.

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