What should i do????

[Shadowgmaing]

Currently running an AM4 platform (5600x, rx 6700 xt xfx)

 

So my plan is to upgrade and idk if i go all new pc or just replace what it needs bc rn my pc case is to small and no airflow for gpu and monitor is bad and i wanted to upgrade to am5 and i am gona keep the gpu and ssd 

and here is the parts list for new pc 

R5 7600x, b650 eagle ax, Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB ddr5 7400mhz cl36, Thermalright peerless assasin 120 se ,phanteks g400a ,ADATA XPG Core Reactor II 750w or II VE 850w

and curent one

R5 5600x ,b550 tuff gaming wifi ,Kingston 16gb×2 3200mhz, Amd stock cooler ,P3 plus 2tb ,P3 1tb, Rx 6700 xt xfx ,Some 700w powersuply, and case was some random one when i put the pc thogther

 

and pc was put thogether almost 3 years ago now i only upgraded the gpu and added a 2tb ssd and another ram, i wana know whats the best thing to do.

 

[Why_Me]

2 minutes ago, Shadowgmaing said:

Currently running an AM4 platform (5600x, rx 6700 xt xfx)

 

So my plan is to upgrade and idk if i go all new pc or just replace what it needs bc rn my pc case is to small and no airflow for gpu and monitor is bad and i wanted to upgrade to am5 and i am gona keep the gpu and ssd 

and here is the parts list for new pc 

R5 7600x, b650 eagle ax, Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB ddr5 7400mhz cl36, Thermalright peerless assasin 120 se ,phanteks g400a ,ADATA XPG Core Reactor II 750w or II VE 850w

and curent one

R5 5600x ,b550 tuff gaming wifi ,Kingston 16gb×2 3200mhz, Amd stock cooler ,P3 plus 2tb ,P3 1tb, Rx 6700 xt xfx ,Some 700w powersuply, and case was some random one when i put the pc thogther

 

and pc was put thogether almost 3 years ago now i only upgraded the gpu and added a 2tb ssd and another ram, i wana know whats the best thing to do.

 

You want DDR5-6000 CL30. What country are you located and what is your budget?

[Shadowgmaing]

1 minute ago, Why_Me said:

You want DDR5-6000 CL30. What country are you located and what is your budget?

the total for that parts was 700 euros and i am from eu slovenia and wana see what my best thing to do bc my monitor is bad and pc gets sow hot in winter more in summer and i wana future bullet prof it

[KidKid]

24 minutes ago, Shadowgmaing said:

Currently running an AM4 platform (5600x, rx 6700 xt xfx)

 

So my plan is to upgrade and idk if i go all new pc or just replace what it needs bc rn my pc case is to small and no airflow for gpu and monitor is bad and i wanted to upgrade to am5 and i am gona keep the gpu and ssd 

and here is the parts list for new pc 

R5 7600x, b650 eagle ax, Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB ddr5 7400mhz cl36, Thermalright peerless assasin 120 se ,phanteks g400a ,ADATA XPG Core Reactor II 750w or II VE 850w

and curent one

R5 5600x ,b550 tuff gaming wifi ,Kingston 16gb×2 3200mhz, Amd stock cooler ,P3 plus 2tb ,P3 1tb, Rx 6700 xt xfx ,Some 700w powersuply, and case was some random one when i put the pc thogther

 

and pc was put thogether almost 3 years ago now i only upgraded the gpu and added a 2tb ssd and another ram, i wana know whats the best thing to do.

 

Try to get CL30 memory if possible at your price point.

[Shadowgmaing]

1 minute ago, KidKid said:

Try to get CL30 memory if possible at your price point.

but whats makes more sense to do stay am4 or go am5

[strange13930]

2 minutes ago, Shadowgmaing said:

but whats makes more sense to do stay am4 or go am5

for future proofing am5 would be better.

[KidKid]

2 minutes ago, Shadowgmaing said:

but whats makes more sense to do stay am4 or go am5

If you go AM4, will you keep your motherboard? 

[Shadowgmaing]

Just now, KidKid said:

If you go AM4, will you keep your motherboard? 

i would keep everything but replace cooler, cpu and psu 

[podkall]

22 minutes ago, Shadowgmaing said:

So my plan is to upgrade and idk if i go all new pc or just replace what it needs bc rn my pc case is to small and no airflow for gpu and monitor is bad and i wanted to upgrade to am5 and i am gona keep the gpu and ssd 

• Do you want small upgrade or big upgrade
• Do you want cheap upgrade or don't mind expensive upgrade

 

23 minutes ago, Shadowgmaing said:

Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB ddr5 7400mhz cl36

Agree with @Why_Me, way too high Mhz, could instead get CL30 with tight subtimings and ~6000Mhz

 

 

 

24 minutes ago, Shadowgmaing said:

R5 5600x ,b550 tuff gaming wifi ,Kingston 16gb×2 3200mhz, Amd stock cooler ,P3 plus 2tb ,P3 1tb, Rx 6700 xt xfx ,Some 700w powersuply, and case was some random one when i put the pc thogther

Well, you can either upgrade to x3D 8 core CPU, you already have 32GB of RAM and everything.

 

So one choice is CPU, maybe GPU+PSU upgrade (if PSU needs, that depends on the model), or just CPU+PSU so that the new platform is already hooked up to capable future-proof PSU and won't need swapping later when you decide to get better GPU.

 

Or platform upgrade to AM5, which is CPU+RAM+MB.

 

Just now, Shadowgmaing said:

but whats makes more sense to do stay am4 or go am5

Both.

 

Financially it makes sense to just upgrade CPU and stay on AM4, because 5700x3D is about ~= 5 7600 level of performance.

 

For more juice it makes sense to swap platform, because the next upgrade will just be swapping CPU. But you have to buy new motherboard and RAM with the CPU if you want to go AM5.

 

• So you pay either some amount for CPU performance
• Or you pay more, for similar CPU performance you would have got for less + farther future upgrade being just CPU swap, and already sitting on newer platform

 

 

1 minute ago, strange13930 said:

for future proofing am5 would be better.

Exactly, but at the same time, you can always buy entire AM5 platform in that future too, and pay less now.

[Shadowgmaing]

2 minutes ago, strange13930 said:

for future proofing am5 would be better.

thats what i was like bc am4 cant go this far bc it is only suported by one 1year left if i dont mastake and then better cpu, ram, psu i go and case and i will need to replace monitor whit 1440p

[Shadowgmaing]

6 minutes ago, podkall said:

• Do you want small upgrade or big upgrade
• Do you want cheap upgrade or don't mind expensive upgrade

 

Agree with @Why_Me, way too high Mhz, could instead get CL30 with tight subtimings and ~6000Mhz

 

 

 

Well, you can either upgrade to x3D 8 core CPU, you already have 32GB of RAM and everything.

 

So one choice is CPU, maybe GPU+PSU upgrade (if PSU needs, that depends on the model), or just CPU+PSU so that the new platform is already hooked up to capable future-proof PSU and won't need swapping later when you decide to get better GPU.

 

Or platform upgrade to AM5, which is CPU+RAM+MB.

 

Both.

 

Financially it makes sense to just upgrade CPU and stay on AM4, because 5700x3D is about ~= 5 7600 level of performance.

 

For more juice it makes sense to swap platform, because the next upgrade will just be swapping CPU. But you have to buy new motherboard and RAM with the CPU if you want to go AM5.

 

• So you pay either some amount for CPU performance
• Or you pay more, for similar CPU performance you would have got for less + farther future upgrade being just CPU swap, and already sitting on newer platform

 

 

Exactly, but at the same time, you can always buy entire AM5 platform in that future too, and pay less now.

 

2 minutes ago, Shadowgmaing said:

thats what i was like bc am4 cant go this far bc it is only suported by one 1year left if i dont mastake and then better cpu, ram, psu i go and case and i will need to replace monitor whit 1440p

well i want something that wont be screaming at me bc rn i max out cpu and ram but gpu is chill but will upgrade that next then but still i dont care how much bc i will give this pc to my sis after i build this when it happens and i will take the money loss but i rather eatup now then later

[podkall]

Just now, Shadowgmaing said:

 

well i want something that wont be screaming at me bc rn i max out cpu and ram but gpu is chill but will upgrade that next then but still i dont care how much bc i will give this pc to my sis after i build this when it happens and i will take the money loss but i rather eatup now then later

What you're doing to max out on CPU or 32GB of RAM? Unless you're talking in the future? Because 32GB is still plenty for just gaming + more than enough background stuff too. Same with 6/8 cores, if you're not someone who is more demanding or specifically needs power in certain areas. Like rendering, or heavy stuff like multitasking with hundreds of Chrome tabs, or demanding on best of the best for given budget like hardcore competitive gamers, etc.

[KidKid]

12 minutes ago, Shadowgmaing said:

i would keep everything but replace cooler, cpu and psu 

For AM4 maybe you could keep the PC for a few more years then upgrade to AM5 or the future AM6 later. Keep in mind that AM4 CPUs run slower than AM5, but are also much cheaper. Maybe a Ryzen 7 5700X3D (~$300) or the Ryzen 5 5800X ($170) would be a good upgrade to keep your AM4 system running fast.

[Why_Me]

49 minutes ago, Shadowgmaing said:

the total for that parts was 700 euros and i am from eu slovenia and wana see what my best thing to do bc my monitor is bad and pc gets sow hot in winter more in summer and i wana future bullet prof it

PCIe 4.0 for the gpu:

https://funtech.si/si/vsi-oddelki/racunalnistvo/komp/maticne-plosce/amd-am5/b840/99712/ 

MSI B840 Gaming Plus WIFI €157,36 

 

PCIe 5.0 for the gpu:

https://funtech.si/si/vsi-oddelki/racunalnistvo/komp/maticne-plosce/amd-am5/b850/98730/ 

ASRock B850 Pro RS €180,11

 

https://funtech.si/si/vsi-oddelki/racunalnistvo/komp/procesorji-cpu/amd-am5/ryzen/88442/ 

https://www.techspot.com/review/2728-ryzen-7500f-vs-core-13400f/ 

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2023-amd-ryzen-5-7500f-review

AMD Ryzen 5 7500F €137,37 

 

https://funtech.si/si/vsi-oddelki/racunalnistvo/komp/procesorski-hladilniki/zracna-hlajenja/96800/ 

DeepCool AG620 €49,62

 

or ...

 

https://funtech.si/si/vsi-oddelki/racunalnistvo/komp/procesorski-hladilniki/zracna-hlajenja/99704/ 

be quiet! Pure Rock Pro 3 €49,91

 

https://funtech.si/si/vsi-oddelki/racunalnistvo/komp/pomnilniki-ram/ddr5/6000mhz/32gb/91625/ 

Patriot Viper VENOM DDR5-6000 32GB (2x16GB) CL30 €107,31  

 

 

[Shadowgmaing]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

What you're doing to max out on CPU or 32GB of RAM? Unless you're talking in the future? Because 32GB is still plenty for just gaming + more than enough background stuff too. Same with 6/8 cores, if you're not someone who is more demanding or specifically needs power in certain areas. Like rendering, or heavy stuff like multitasking with hundreds of Chrome tabs, or demanding on best of the best for given budget like hardcore competitive gamers, etc.

when i got 16gb it was maxed now whit 32 is good  but when i edit stuff is not good and i just woried that something will fail anytime just playing apex or forza 5 on like medium settings whit like 5 tabs open

[WereCat]

IMO 7600X is not worth it for AM5. You can just grab X3D on AM4 and you will beasically get the same game performance for cheaper.

 

If you are going to change platforms make sure the performance is worth it

[Shadowgmaing]

1 minute ago, Why_Me said:

PCIe 4.0 for the gpu:

https://funtech.si/si/vsi-oddelki/racunalnistvo/komp/maticne-plosce/amd-am5/b840/99712/ 

MSI B840 Gaming Plus WIFI €157,36 

 

PCIe 5.0 for the gpu:

https://funtech.si/si/vsi-oddelki/racunalnistvo/komp/maticne-plosce/amd-am5/b850/98730/ 

ASRock B850 Pro RS €180,11

 

https://funtech.si/si/vsi-oddelki/racunalnistvo/komp/procesorji-cpu/amd-am5/ryzen/88442/ 

https://www.techspot.com/review/2728-ryzen-7500f-vs-core-13400f/ 

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2023-amd-ryzen-5-7500f-review

AMD Ryzen 5 7500F €137,37 

 

https://funtech.si/si/vsi-oddelki/racunalnistvo/komp/procesorski-hladilniki/zracna-hlajenja/96800/ 

DeepCool AG620 €49,62

 

or ...

 

https://funtech.si/si/vsi-oddelki/racunalnistvo/komp/procesorski-hladilniki/zracna-hlajenja/99704/ 

be quiet! Pure Rock Pro 3 €49,91

 

https://funtech.si/si/vsi-oddelki/racunalnistvo/komp/pomnilniki-ram/ddr5/6000mhz/32gb/91625/ 

Patriot Viper VENOM DDR5-6000 32GB (2x16) CL30 €107,31  

 

 

someone did say 7500f but would you go am4 or am5 if you would start a new build?

[Why_Me]

Just now, Shadowgmaing said:

someone did say 7500f but would you go am4 or am5 if you would start a new build?

AM5

[Shadowgmaing]

1 minute ago, WereCat said:

IMO 7600X is not worth it for AM5. You can just grab X3D on AM4 and you will beasically get the same game performance for cheaper.

 

If you are going to change platforms make sure the performance is worth it

ik thats why i ask if i worth upgrading or not bc i only did one build thats all

[Shadowgmaing]

Just now, Why_Me said:

AM5

thats why bc people have difrent opions but i wana know as much as i can 

[Shadowgmaing]

1 minute ago, Shadowgmaing said:

ik thats why i ask if i worth upgrading or not bc i only did one build thats all

and i wanted like to stream or something and pc is to weak to do it

[Tetras]

If your main concern is the heat and your case, I'd just get a nice new case and a new CPU cooler.

 

Your current parts are pretty well matched, so it'll last another 2-3 years (depending on games/resolution).

[Shadowgmaing]

1 minute ago, Tetras said:

If your main concern is the heat and your case, I'd just get a nice new case and a new CPU cooler.

 

Your current parts are pretty well matched, so it'll last another 2-3 years (depending on games/resolution).

well i wana do 1440p gaming, edting and other stuff bc the pc isnt capebal to do now whit this parts bc it just goes heat mode and games i do are cpu heavy mostly 

[Tetras]

3 minutes ago, Shadowgmaing said:

well i wana do 1440p gaming, edting and other stuff bc the pc isnt capebal to do now whit this parts bc it just goes heat mode and games i do are cpu heavy mostly 

A 6700 XT can play most games just fine at 1440p.

 

Editing: a 5600X can do this, but it depends what kind of editing you want to do.

 

In multithreading (i.e. all the cores being used well), a 7600X is roughly equivalent to a 5800X and a 7700X is roughly equivalent to a 5900X.

[strange13930]

1 hour ago, Shadowgmaing said:

Thermalright peerless assasin 120 se ,phanteks g400a

start by getting the thermal right peerless assassin and the phanteks g400a first because they will work for Both am4 and am5, and it will also help with lowering your cpu temps to get more performance.

 

6 minutes ago, Shadowgmaing said:

well i wana do 1440p gaming, edting and other stuff bc the pc isnt capebal to do now whit this parts bc it just goes heat mode and games i do are cpu heavy mostly 

is you cpu thermal throttling?