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I'm going to guess it is dead, and hopefully didn't take anything else with it. Anyway, I woke to find my house silent and internet was down. RCD tripped. Ok, what caused it? I tried disconnecting things and eventually traced it down to my gaming PC. If the PSU is plugged in and power switched on (even if PC is off), the RCD trips. I disconnected all the modular cables from the PSU, so there is nothing connected to it. Apply mains power, trips. So it is the PSU.

 

Can't see anything wrong. No funny smells. No rattles. I submitted a query with the place I bought it from. Their site lists 10 year warranty, but only 1 year RTB. So I might have to go to manufacturer. Anything else I can check while I wait for the seller to respond?

 

As a temporary measure to get that system going again I think I can steal a PSU from another less important system.

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, MSI Ventus 3x OC RTX 5070 Ti, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Alienware AW3225QF (32" 240 Hz OLED)
Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 4070 FE, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, iiyama ProLite XU2793QSU-B6 (27" 1440p 100 Hz)
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rma the psu and just substitute it with some other existing psu while you wait for rma

 

given the 10 year warranty id have to assume a quality unit so yeah its probably just a lemon that died prematurely, parts should be fine given all those fancy protections

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2 hours ago, porina said:

 I disconnected all the modular cables from the PSU, so there is nothing connected to it. Apply mains power, trips. So it is the PSU.

Its probably something really simple like the class Y capacitors on the mains input have failed so are causing a dead short.

 

The good news is that means its highly unlikely to have done any damage to the PC.

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1 hour ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

rma the psu and just substitute it with some other existing psu while you wait for rma

That's the plan. Seller has given me RMA so it appears I don't need to go through manufacturer. I still need to extract it at some point.

 

1 hour ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

given the 10 year warranty id have to assume a quality unit

MSI MPG A850G as recommended by some (maybe more than one) person on this forum. Can't find any warranty info on it on MSI's own site. 10 years is listed on sellers.

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, MSI Ventus 3x OC RTX 5070 Ti, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Alienware AW3225QF (32" 240 Hz OLED)
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System is online again. The PSU I stole from the other system turned out to be HX1000i. I think I didn't use that for this build originally as I've had it quite a long time. 2017 now I look it up! Dunno if I can be bothered to another PSU swap on the system again now that I'm reminded how much I hate cable management!

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, MSI Ventus 3x OC RTX 5070 Ti, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Alienware AW3225QF (32" 240 Hz OLED)
Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 4070 FE, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, iiyama ProLite XU2793QSU-B6 (27" 1440p 100 Hz)
Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible

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1 hour ago, porina said:

System is online again. The PSU I stole from the other system turned out to be HX1000i. I think I didn't use that for this build originally as I've had it quite a long time. 2017 now I look it up! Dunno if I can be bothered to another PSU swap on the system again now that I'm reminded how much I hate cable management!

Double check your cables, but the early models of the MSI power supplies were virtually identical to Corsair type 4. IIRC it was only the 24 pin cable that was different. Worth looking at in your case. If you've got a multimeter it's really quick to check and might save you from having to rerun all your cables again. 

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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7 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Double check your cables, but the early models of the MSI power supplies were virtually identical to Corsair type 4. IIRC it was only the 24 pin cable that was different. Worth looking at in your case. If you've got a multimeter it's really quick to check and might save you from having to rerun all your cables again. 

My HX1000i is Type 3. Dunno what the difference is between type 3 and type 4. I'll just play it safe, cables will be the ones that came with the PSU.

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, MSI Ventus 3x OC RTX 5070 Ti, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Alienware AW3225QF (32" 240 Hz OLED)
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4 minutes ago, porina said:

My HX1000i is Type 3. Dunno what the difference is between type 3 and type 4. I'll just play it safe, cables will be the ones that came with the PSU.

24 pin.

What's the difference between CORSAIR Type-3, Type-4 and Type-5 cables? | CORSAIR

PSU CABLE COMPATIBILITY

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

Project Hot Box

CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tbCORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

Oppbevaring

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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RMA complete! This will go into the system I pulled the Corsair out of. I'm not touching the other system for now.

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, MSI Ventus 3x OC RTX 5070 Ti, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Alienware AW3225QF (32" 240 Hz OLED)
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On 5/12/2025 at 8:28 AM, porina said:

Can't find any warranty info on it on MSI's own site. 10 years is listed on sellers.

https://us.msi.com/page/warranty#:~:text=3. Product-,80 PLUS GOLD,-- Warranty period of

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On 5/12/2025 at 11:20 AM, porina said:

System is online again. The PSU I stole from the other system turned out to be HX1000i. I think I didn't use that for this build originally as I've had it quite a long time. 2017 now I look it up! Dunno if I can be bothered to another PSU swap on the system again now that I'm reminded how much I hate cable management!

I have found one upside of centralizing on Seasonic for PSUs is that when I need to do a swap, it's unplug replug, no recabling needed. Though I do always double check their compatibility guide before doing so

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3 minutes ago, OddOod said:

US page is irrelevant to me. They vary it worldwide and my local page only says check with seller.

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2 minutes ago, OddOod said:

I have found one upside of centralizing on Seasonic for PSUs is that when I need to do a swap, it's unplug replug, no recabling needed. Though I do always double check their compatibility guide before doing so

I rarely ever rebuild/swap in that way so it was never a consideration.

 

I'll probably go back to Corsair for my next serious build. They've always been solid for me even if they cost a bit more.

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, MSI Ventus 3x OC RTX 5070 Ti, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Alienware AW3225QF (32" 240 Hz OLED)
Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 4070 FE, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, iiyama ProLite XU2793QSU-B6 (27" 1440p 100 Hz)
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6 minutes ago, porina said:

US page is irrelevant to me. They vary it worldwide and my local page only says check with seller.

Fair, my americentric apologies.

4 minutes ago, porina said:

I'll probably go back to Corsair for my next serious build. They've always been solid for me even if they cost a bit more.

Strong move. My PSU tier list is basically SS, Corsair, MSI

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