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Hello good people, I've finally finished my build and I ran into a small problem.So this problem popped up even on the first day of boot and still keeps playing with my nerves. I'll try my best to describe it: whenever the system has even a smallest load (opening a browser) PC starts making weird whirling sounds, but it's not constant, just comes and goes. Tried putting my ear to each component but can't make out where the sound is coming from. Tried stopping each fan but seems to me that it's not a fan speed related. Any help would be appreciated.

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2 minutes ago, DTReality said:

Hello good people, I've finally finished my build and I ran into a small problem.So this problem popped up even on the first day of boot and still keeps playing with my nerves. I'll try my best to describe it: whenever the system has even a smallest load (opening a browser) PC starts making weird whirling sounds, but it's not constant, just comes and goes. Tried putting my ear to each component but can't make out where the sound is coming from. Tried stopping each fan but seems to me that it's not a fan speed related. Any help would be appreciated.

 

Very difficult to hear or pinpoint the audio describe in this video.

Could it be CoilWhine you are hearing?  Possibly from the PSU?

 

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Is it pump of sound?

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9 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Very difficult to hear or pinpoint the audio describe in this video.

Could it be CoilWhine you are hearing?  Possibly from the PSU?

 

Go to 7s, it starts from there, it's pretty distinct. I don't think it's a coil whine, I mean I've had coil whine before and it was way more annoying and easy to find the source.

6 minutes ago, podkall said:

Is it pump of sound?

That's what I'm leaning towards as well, I was thinking of playing with the pump in BIOS so I could find if that's the issue but I don't want to mess with it.

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3 minutes ago, DTReality said:

Go to 7s, it starts from there, it's pretty distinct. I don't think it's a coil whine, I mean I've had coil whine before and it was way more annoying and easy to find the source.

That's what I'm leaning towards as well, I was thinking of playing with the pump in BIOS so I could find if that's the issue but I don't want to mess with it.

I hear it now.

That to me definitely sound like AIO pump noise.

 

There is absolutely no danger in playing with the pump speed in the BIOS 🙂 

You can put it to 100% and see if thats the sound and put back to where it was before.

An AIO pump is designed to run at 100% pump speed anyways.

Just play around to see if that is the sound or not, no dangers at all!  Unless you do a 0% pump speed of course.

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27 minutes ago, DTReality said:

That's what I'm leaning towards as well, I was thinking of playing with the pump in BIOS so I could find if that's the issue but I don't want to mess with it.

Try it, there's nothing bad about changing the pump seed.

 

22 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

There is absolutely no danger in playing with the pump speed in the BIOS 🙂 

You can put it to 100% and see if thats the sound and put back to where it was before.

An AIO pump is designed to run at 100% pump speed anyways.

Just play around to see if that is the sound or not, no dangers at all!  Unless you do a 0% pump speed of course.

Do some people do like 70% pump speed for performance/sound?

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  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
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4 minutes ago, podkall said:

Try it, there's nothing bad about changing the pump seed.

 

Do some people do like 70% pump speed for performance/sound?

Absolutely.  The same way I do max speed on all my fans without them being audible, some people do that with AIO pumps too.

 

From what I know and read throughout the years, having a fixed pump speed of 70% or 65%, whatever, is better for the pump than fluctuating up and down constantly.  There is less wear on the pump by having a fixed speed, even though it might be higher than constant fluctuation between 35-60% for example.

 

I have had a few AIO's in some builds and I have always ran them at 65-75% constant pump speed. The way I run a constant 29% fan speed on my AK620 for example.

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2 hours ago, podkall said:

Do some people do like 70% pump speed for performance/sound?

I'm extremely fast and loose with mine. 12600KF's aren't that hard to cool so my pump barely runs... and my case/AIO fans are in the same boat (those things idle at 400RPM). Keeps it nearly basically inaudible at idle and very quiet under CPU loads.

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11 hours ago, flibberdipper said:

I'm extremely fast and loose with mine. 12600KF's aren't that hard to cool so my pump barely runs... and my case/AIO fans are in the same boat (those things idle at 400RPM). Keeps it nearly basically inaudible at idle and very quiet under CPU loads.

Well yeah, if your CPU doesn't reach 90C then the pump will never go 100%, but 9800x3D is different, it gets warmer and constant pump speed can help because for AM5 it's sometimes normal for CPU to be close to 90C, so if you had this pump curve for an AM5 CPU that gets easily to 90C regardless of cooling, that's going to spin up all the fans and pumps because of the curve.

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  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
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8 hours ago, podkall said:

Well yeah, if your CPU doesn't reach 90C then the pump will never go 100%, but 9800x3D is different, it gets warmer and constant pump speed can help because for AM5 it's sometimes normal for CPU to be close to 90C, so if you had this pump curve for an AM5 CPU that gets easily to 90C regardless of cooling, that's going to spin up all the fans and pumps because of the curve.

...And the curve would still account for that, drop the response time to 2 seconds and you have what would function like a BIOS configuration just with a little bit of smoothing/tolerance for small spikes here. And let's not forget, you can adjust the temp target, there's no reason for it to be TRYING to hit 90C. Friend of mine has a standard 9700x with a DRP4 that was hitting 90C and was funnily obnoxious, he dropped the temp target to 80 and now noise is significantly reduced, temps are more reasonable, and he has no functional loss in real-world performance.

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22 hours ago, DTReality said:

Hello good people, I've finally finished my build and I ran into a small problem.So this problem popped up even on the first day of boot and still keeps playing with my nerves. I'll try my best to describe it: whenever the system has even a smallest load (opening a browser) PC starts making weird whirling sounds, but it's not constant, just comes and goes. Tried putting my ear to each component but can't make out where the sound is coming from. Tried stopping each fan but seems to me that it's not a fan speed related. Any help would be appreciated.

The audio is very quiet in this video, but if you're talking about the constant white noise, it's the fans. 

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19 minutes ago, flibberdipper said:

...And the curve would still account for that, drop the response time to 2 seconds and you have what would function like a BIOS configuration just with a little bit of smoothing/tolerance for small spikes here. And let's not forget, you can adjust the temp target, there's no reason for it to be TRYING to hit 90C. Friend of mine has a standard 9700x with a DRP4 that was hitting 90C and was funnily obnoxious, he dropped the temp target to 80 and now noise is significantly reduced, temps are more reasonable, and he has no functional loss in real-world performance.

Yeah but AM5 CPUs can get very warm regardless of temp target. And with normal curve you're getting close to 100% fan/pump speed.

 

 

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PC configs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
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