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BiotechBen
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Hey guys, being the tech guy in the family, I have been asked to see if I can get pictures of an old hard drive, was given an adapter device that may or may not work? based on documentation with the adapter.

 

Any advice for doing an IDE drive recognition in w10? 

 

Drive powers up, is actively spinning, does a little burble a few seconds after spin up.

 

Have tried with the jumper in every config

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In my experience it should be plug and play. No need for extra drivers.

 

Are you sure the adapter is for IDE drives on SATA and not the other way around?

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12 minutes ago, thekingofmonks said:

In my experience it should be plug and play. No need for extra drivers.

 

Are you sure the adapter is for IDE drives on SATA and not the other way around?

It's a "USB 3.0: SATA/IDE hub adapter"

 

As a sanity check: I used a known good spare SATA drive I have, and it was recognized, I'm thinking maybe the age of it is the issue, IDE drive is labelled 06/2001

 

Am wondering if perhaps Linux may be a better bet for the drive to be recognized?

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Oh, I gotcha. It's an external adapter.

 

Is it a 2.5" or 3.5" drive? If it's 3.5" it needs its molex power.

 

My procedure when using a USB adapter is to first power up the drive, then connect the adapter to the PC.

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4 minutes ago, thekingofmonks said:

Oh, I gotcha. It's an external adapter.

 

Is it a 2.5" or 3.5" drive? If it's 3.5" it needs its molex power.

 

My procedure when using a USB adapter is to first power up the drive, then connect the adapter to the PC.

Has sufficient external power, drive spins very well. 30gb 3.5" Samsung drive

 

My last experience with an IDE drive doing a similar thing required the use of a laptop running XP to get it recognized and read, am beginning to think that might be what's going to happen here

 

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13 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

Has sufficient external power, drive spins very well.

 

My last experience with an IDE drive doing a similar thing required the use of a laptop running XP to get it recognized and read, am beginning to think that might be what's going to happen here

Yeah, but the IDE adapter itself has a USB device controller that recognizes old IDE controllers, so I don't think OS compatibility should be an issue.

 

You can always try, though. It's worth a shot.

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4 minutes ago, thekingofmonks said:

Yeah, but the IDE adapter itself has a USB device controller that recognizes old IDE controllers, so I don't think OC compatibility should be an issue.

 

You can always try, though. It's worth a shot.

I've got a spare machine lying around to load Linux on, maybe trusty Linux isn't gonna care about "proper device enumeration" and an expected hardware ID?

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4 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

I've got a spare machine lying around to load Linux on, maybe trusty Linux isn't gonna care about "proper device enumeration" and an expected hardware ID?

Dunno...

I have got near-zero experience with Linux...

Good luck

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32 minutes ago, Ryker Robb said:

Did you check disk management and device manager? Those older Samsung drives aren't very reliable, it could just be dead. Also leave the jumper in master, that's the one that should work.

Yeah, doesn't show up anywhere as far as I can tell. Has also been in far less than ideal storage conditions in the time that it's been inactive, so I wouodng bs shocked if unreliable drive + temp and humidity killed it

 

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3 hours ago, BiotechBen said:

IDE drive is labelled 06/2001

it might be too old for the adapter, i have one drive that works fine in a period motherboard, but refuses to work with the "modern day" IDE adapters. iirc it's something to do with only supporting an older standard that the adapter doesnt anymore.

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45 minutes ago, manikyath said:

it might be too old for the adapter, i have one drive that works fine in a period motherboard, but refuses to work with the "modern day" IDE adapters. iirc it's something to do with only supporting an older standard that the adapter doesnt anymore.

I've got a feeling that's the case. 1/3 alive and working so far, drive 2 is at the "kill me, please, let the suffering end" stage of its life based on the DST result 

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