What CPU should I get?

[Alexrider777]

I'm buying a computer through work and I have the option between these 2 systems.

The main difference is the CPU, either the ryzen 5 7500F or the i5-14600KF.

The cost for both of the systems is similar for me. 

 

system 1:

r5-7500F

arctic freezer 34

Gigabyte A620M-S2H

Transcend 16gb DDR5-4800

Palit dual RTX 4070 super

Xilence 750w PSU

 

System 2:

i5-14600KF

Xilence M906

Asrock B760M-H/M.2

Transcend 16gb DDR5-4800

Palit dual RTX 4070 super

Xilence 750W PSU

[Somerandomtechyboi]

country?

price of the computers?

 

the boards and rams are complete garbage so goodbye to any semblance of upgradability or performance especially the 14600kf thatll be completely nuked due to that crap board

 

im suspecting the psu to be just as crappy aswell so itll work as long as you dont upgrade the cpu/gpu

 

unless you are getting them for like 700$ or less just build your own

[Alexrider777]

1 minute ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

country?

price of the computers?

 

the boards and rams are complete garbage so goodbye to any semblance of upgradability or performance especially the 14600kf thatll be completely nuked due to that crap board

 

im suspecting the psu to be just as crappy aswell so itll work as long as you dont upgrade the cpu/gpu

 

unless you are getting them for like 700$ or less just build your own

I'm from Belgium.

I get a nearly 50% discount on the systems but they have to be prebuilds.

It's not allowed to buy components.

I'm going to get them for arround $600-700.

The PSU I'm looking at upgrading to a seasonic model.

[Millios]

26 minutes ago, Alexrider777 said:

I'm buying a computer through work and I have the option between these 2 systems.

The main difference is the CPU, either the ryzen 5 7500F or the i5-14600KF.

The cost for both of the systems is similar for me. 

 

system 1:

r5-7500F

arctic freezer 34

Gigabyte A620M-S2H

Transcend 16gb DDR5-4800

Palit dual RTX 4070 super

Xilence 750w PSU

 

System 2:

i5-14600KF

Xilence M906

Asrock B760M-H/M.2

Transcend 16gb DDR5-4800

Palit dual RTX 4070 super

Xilence 750W PSU

I'd say the i5 14600KF simply cause you also get a better mobo as well

[DoctorNick]

35 minutes ago, Alexrider777 said:

I'm buying a computer through work and I have the option between these 2 systems.

The main difference is the CPU, either the ryzen 5 7500F or the i5-14600KF.

The cost for both of the systems is similar for me. 

 

system 1:

r5-7500F

arctic freezer 34

Gigabyte A620M-S2H

Transcend 16gb DDR5-4800

Palit dual RTX 4070 super

Xilence 750w PSU

 

System 2:

i5-14600KF

Xilence M906

Asrock B760M-H/M.2

Transcend 16gb DDR5-4800

Palit dual RTX 4070 super

Xilence 750W PSU

Can't it be any other system? Do you have a max price or place you have to buy from?

There must be better options

[Alexrider777]

13 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

Can't it be any other system? Do you have a max price or place you have to buy from?

There must be better options

Unfortunately not really.

I have about €875 to spend ( end of year bonus, I hope to avoid 50% taxes).

I can't add any extra budget to it, unless I upgrade it afterwards.

These are the best systems specs I could find for that money in a prebuild.

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

27 minutes ago, Alexrider777 said:

I'm from Belgium.

I get a nearly 50% discount on the systems but they have to be prebuilds.

It's not allowed to buy components.

I'm going to get them for arround $600-700.

The PSU I'm looking at upgrading to a seasonic model.

the board and rams are a total write off but you can probably get them to sell quick at 100-120€ as a bundle

 

the rest are actually still very usable even the psu depending on the model as it will run the stock config at the very least so i doubt itll be that bad and you can use it till you want to do a cpu/gpu upgrade

 

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZPffBL

amd

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/DmRDsh

intel

 

heres the bare minimum to get them in a decent state where the board isnt nuking performance (intel) + isnt a throwaway for future cpus (amd) and the rams arent nuking cpu performance due to not being slow garbage 4800 microns in 1rx16 or single channel

 

i do want to note that there is a z690 taichi for 30€ extra on intel so you can get a high end board with all the bells and whistles (postcode, dual usb4, pcie bifurcation) on intel at a rather cheap price so if you go intel id reccomend that over the z790 since you wont be getting newer cpus on intel so you might aswell max it out

 

on amd you want to manually set the rams to 6000 so no further tuning required, 6000c30/32 are more expensive than the 7000 rams so no reason to get those when a simple frequency set will make them work the same

 

as for intel vs amd the 14600kf will give you better performance right now both gaming and productivity though it will draw lots of power and its on a dead end platform where the 7500f wont be near as performant especially for productivity/multicore but itll draw a fraction of the power and you wont have to swap the mobo upon cpu upgrade

 

not gonna lie intel is pretty appealling here especially if the intel prebuilt is cheaper than the amd prebuilt

[Alexrider777]

40 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

the board and rams are a total write off but you can probably get them to sell quick at 100-120€ as a bundle

 

the rest are actually still very usable even the psu depending on the model as it will run the stock config at the very least so i doubt itll be that bad and you can use it till you want to do a cpu/gpu upgrade

 

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZPffBL

amd

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/DmRDsh

intel

 

heres the bare minimum to get them in a decent state where the board isnt nuking performance (intel) + isnt a throwaway for future cpus (amd) and the rams arent nuking cpu performance due to not being slow garbage 4800 microns in 1rx16 or single channel

 

i do want to note that there is a z690 taichi for 30€ extra on intel so you can get a high end board with all the bells and whistles (postcode, dual usb4, pcie bifurcation) on intel at a rather cheap price so if you go intel id reccomend that over the z790 since you wont be getting newer cpus on intel so you might aswell max it out

 

on amd you want to manually set the rams to 6000 so no further tuning required, 6000c30/32 are more expensive than the 7000 rams so no reason to get those when a simple frequency set will make them work the same

 

as for intel vs amd the 14600kf will give you better performance right now both gaming and productivity though it will draw lots of power and its on a dead end platform where the 7500f wont be near as performant especially for productivity/multicore but itll draw a fraction of the power and you wont have to swap the mobo upon cpu upgrade

 

not gonna lie intel is pretty appealling here especially if the intel prebuilt is cheaper than the amd prebuilt

Thank you for the advice!

At the moment I don't have the budget for upgrades like that.

The intel system is more expensive than the amd one (€70 more) and I probably have to buy another cooler for it. (don't really trust this one)

Since I am going to game (no fps games) on the system and do no real productivity tasks( no editing, photoshop, rendering or streaming). 

It might be better to go with amd and save some money for future upgrades?

[Somerandomtechyboi]

24 minutes ago, Alexrider777 said:

Thank you for the advice!

At the moment I don't have the budget for upgrades like that.

The intel system is more expensive than the amd one (€70 more) and I probably have to buy another cooler for it. (don't really trust this one)

Since I am going to game (no fps games) on the system and do no real productivity tasks( no editing, photoshop, rendering or streaming). 

It might be better to go with amd and save some money for future upgrades?

get the amd and immideatly resell the mobo + rams for 100-120€ in favor of the mobo and rams i suggested which will be another 100€ ish add but well worth it for a board thatll support future cpus and ram that isnt slow as shit and doesnt nuke your framerates due to being singlechannel/1rx16 garbage at a slow 4800 not to mention will last you the entire ddr5 generation as hynix a die is 9000+ capable

 

this is abit of a better case since the slow ram is 5200 and dualchannel so if you have the worst case being single channel 4800 your framerates from avg to .1% lows are cooked

[Alexrider777]

9 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

get the amd and immideatly resell the mobo + rams for 100-120€ in favor of the mobo and rams i suggested which will be another 100€ ish add but well worth it for a board thatll support future cpus and ram that isnt slow as shit and doesnt nuke your framerates due to being singlechannel/1rx16 garbage at a slow 4800 not to mention will last you the entire ddr5 generation as hynix a die is 9000+ capable

 

this is abit of a better case since the slow ram is 5200 and dualchannel so if you have the worst case being single channel 4800 your framerates from avg to .1% lows are cooked

Thank you for the advice!

The config right now is 2x8gb ddr5-4800.

Would you keep the xilence psu or replace that immediately? 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 hour ago, Alexrider777 said:

Thank you for the advice!

The config right now is 2x8gb ddr5-4800.

Would you keep the xilence psu or replace that immediately? 

id check what it is first but my reaction would be to keep it cause it will at the very least work with the cpu/gpu combo, maybe swap it out upon cpu/gpu upgrade depending on what unit it is

[Alexrider777]

7 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

id check what it is first but my reaction would be to keep it cause it will at the very least work with the cpu/gpu combo, maybe swap it out upon cpu/gpu upgrade depending on what unit it is

Ok, it's this one.

The reason, I'm asking is that it's rated on de psu tier list as low tier.

I'm not sure if I can trust it.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

7 minutes ago, Alexrider777 said:

Ok, it's this one.

The reason, I'm asking is that it's rated on de psu tier list as low tier.

I'm not sure if I can trust it.

12v = 58a = 696w (nice) real wattage

 

not what id call quality but itll be good enough considering the midranger 40 series isnt really that power hungry,l

 

prioritize better mobo + ram first, once youve saved up for a decent 10 year warranty 850w(+) psu like this you can get a worthwhile psu upgrade, or just resell the unit now for 40€ or something as brand new and buy a used rm850x for 50€ if you wanna go that route since new is pretty expensive