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orlans21
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2 minutes ago, orlans21 said:

Am i able to hook up a MoCa adapter to a pc in a room that does not have a coax plug in the wall?

Yeah, you can. But you won't have a MoCA connection...

What are you trying to achieve?

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                      La Vie en Rose (DNS) ═╬═ Narrative  ╠═ Veda-NAS     ╠═ La Vie en Rose (vmbr)
                                Veda (DNS) ─┘             ╠═ Veda (vmbr)  ├─ Ptolemy (vmbr)
╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Ptolemy-NAS  ├─ Veda (Mgmt)
║   ┌ Closet ┐      ┌───────── Bedroom ─────────┐                         └─ Veda (IPMI)
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     Jack #2    └──────── Switch 8 ────────────┬─ nanoHD Access Point (PoE)
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5 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

Yeah, you can. But you won't have a MoCA connection...

What are you trying to achieve?

I can't have a wired ethernet connection in my room because the router is in the basement and I do not want to use WIFI. I currently use a wifi pod that i have plugged into my room and i run the cable from that pod to my PC. I do play games and lately I have been having a packet burst issue and was wondering if MoCa would be a better option than what I am using now

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3 minutes ago, orlans21 said:

and was wondering if MoCa would be a better option than what I am using now

Well, MoCA is only useful if you already have co-ax in place. If it's not in that room but another one, that's fine, but perhaps a little unsightly. If you have to run new cable, just run Ethernet and be done with it.

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Network:

Spoiler 
                       ┌─────────────── Office/Rack ───────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ── Cloud Gateway Max ══╦═ Pro XG 8 ══╦═ Flex 2.5-8 ══╦═ Doven Wolf
                      La Vie en Rose (DNS) ═╬═ Narrative  ╠═ Veda-NAS     ╠═ La Vie en Rose (vmbr)
                                Veda (DNS) ─┘             ╠═ Veda (vmbr)  ├─ Ptolemy (vmbr)
╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Ptolemy-NAS  ├─ Veda (Mgmt)
║   ┌ Closet ┐      ┌───────── Bedroom ─────────┐                         └─ Veda (IPMI)
╚═══ Flex XG ══╦╤═══ Flex XG ══╤╦═ Byarlant
       (PoE)   ║│              │╠═ Narrative 
Kitchen Jack ══╣└─ Dual PoE ┐  │╚═ Jesta Cannon*
   (Testing)   ║┌─ Injector ┘  └── Work Laptop
     Bedroom ══╝│        ┌─────── Media Center ────────────────────────────┐
     Jack #2    └──────── Switch 8 ────────────┬─ nanoHD Access Point (PoE)
Notes:                                         ├─ Sony PlayStation 4 
─── is Gigabit / ═══ is Multi-Gigabit          ├─ Pioneer VSX-S520
* = cable passed from Bedroom to Media Center  └─ Sony XR65A80K (Google TV)
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3 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

Well, MoCA is only useful if you already have co-ax in place. If it's not in that room but another one, that's fine, but perhaps a little unsightly. If you have to run new cable, just run Ethernet and be done with it.

Rather not run cables so I guess my only other option is powerline adapter

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30 minutes ago, orlans21 said:

I can't have a wired ethernet connection in my room because the router is in the basement and I do not want to use WIFI. I currently use a wifi pod that i have plugged into my room and i run the cable from that pod to my PC. I do play games and lately I have been having a packet burst issue and was wondering if MoCa would be a better option than what I am using now

Can you draw a quick and dirty diagram of what you're thinking?

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2 minutes ago, orlans21 said:

be a little more specific

No I think you need to have a bit more of a think about this.

 

You've asked if a MoCA adapter will work without a Coax port.

 

What do you think a MoCA adapter does? Did you watch the recent LTT video? If not, give it a quick look - if you did watch it, I think you need to watch again.

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41 minutes ago, orlans21 said:

Rather not run cables so I guess my only other option is powerline adapter

Powerline is hit or miss if it even works. So make sure you buy them at a place that has a good return policy. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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25 minutes ago, whispous said:

No I think you need to have a bit more of a think about this.

 

You've asked if a MoCA adapter will work without a Coax port.

 

What do you think a MoCA adapter does? Did you watch the recent LTT video? If not, give it a quick look - if you did watch it, I think you need to watch again.

I did and I can't use one unfortunately for my room

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39 minutes ago, orlans21 said:

Thanks, any model you recommend? 

Not really. Branding kinda sucks. They will advertise a speed for example 500 Mbps, but only have 100 Mbps Ethernet ports, so you will never get more than 100 Mbps. So you really need to dig in to the tech specs. Check the Ethernet port speeds. 

 

Also they are kinda designed for both adapters to be on the same circuit. They can operate on different circuits but be aware that will effect performance. Also the age of your wiring kinda matters. Older wiring it wont work well, and it might not work well or at all on the newest wiring standard, I think it has something to do with ARC fault breakers or something. So there is like a sweet spot in terms of wiring age where the tech really works well. 

 

Like @jaslionstated, buy one, test it and if it sucks return it. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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36 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

Not really. Branding kinda sucks. They will advertise a speed for example 500 Mbps, but only have 100 Mbps Ethernet ports, so you will never get more than 100 Mbps. So you really need to dig in to the tech specs. Check the Ethernet port speeds. 

 

Also they are kinda designed for both adapters to be on the same circuit. They can operate on different circuits but be aware that will effect performance. Also the age of your wiring kinda matters. Older wiring it wont work well, and it might not work well or at all on the newest wiring standard, I think it has something to do with ARC fault breakers or something. So there is like a sweet spot in terms of wiring age where the tech really works well. 

 

Like @jaslionstated, buy one, test it and if it sucks return it. 

Thanks for that info. This house that I'm living in is 30 years old

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2 minutes ago, orlans21 said:

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All you can do is try it. No one can say for sure if it's going to work. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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11 hours ago, orlans21 said:

Thanks for that info. This house that I'm living in is 30 years old

I'm amazed it doesn't have coax run to every bedroom, or at least every floor.

 

Unfortunately without running new cables, your options are powerline networking or WiFi. (And if you do have to pull cables, you might as well run proper Cat6 instead of coax.)

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4 hours ago, Needfuldoer said:

I'm amazed it doesn't have coax run to every bedroom, or at least every floor.

 

Unfortunately without running new cables, your options are powerline networking or WiFi. (And if you do have to pull cables, you might as well run proper Cat6 instead of coax.)

there was supposed to be CoAx plug in my room when the house was built, i dunno what happened

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