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Windows Defender technical question?

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It puts the scan results somewhere since they're still in the history, and likely uses that in addition to the exclusion list

 

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/how-to-remove-a-protection-history-report-from/c73c5969-68fe-454e-833f-b602af0b175d

So i had to change two of my hard-drive(s) - not the OS drive... and first thing "windows defender found threats!"

 

--> checking it was "hack tool, blah, blah, blah sledgehammer"...

 

 

ok --> "restore" --> immediately run sledgehammer  --> everything good, windows updates  DISABLED as it should be.

 

no warnings since. so the question is why in the world doesn't defender see it as a threat now, i haven't put sledgehammer in an exclude list or anything,  literally all i did was "restore" the file...?

 

is it something that sledgehammer does, maybe? (my defender exclusion list is empty however) 

 

 

note, also defender said "severe" and PUM or PUP?  weird how its suddenly not an issue anymore, right?

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35 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

all i did was "restore" the file...?

If you restore it's pretty obvious you don't want it to be detected and blocked again 2 seconds later so it excludes it too...

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2 hours ago, Kilrah said:

If you restore it's pretty obvious you don't want it to be detected and blocked again 2 seconds later so it excludes it too...

i agree that's very logical and kinda what you'd expect,  but it's not in the list of excluded files... neither is Cheat Engine which also gets occasionally detected - so I'm just wondering how that works internally. 

 

ps: maybe PUP style "viruses" don't get into the excluded list, but there still has to be some kind of hidden list somewhere because as said if i do a *full* scan with defender for example it will see cheat engine at least (but probably not sledgehammer) and put it in quarantine.  

 

quick scan finds neither usually.  

 

btw malwarebytes does exactly the same thing, "sometimes" it'll find cheat engine,  but usually not and I've never excluded it either.  

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It puts the scan results somewhere since they're still in the history, and likely uses that in addition to the exclusion list

 

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/how-to-remove-a-protection-history-report-from/c73c5969-68fe-454e-833f-b602af0b175d

F@H
Desktop: i9-13900K, ASUS Z790-E, 64GB DDR5-6000 CL36, RTX3080, 2TB MP600 Pro XT, 2TB SX8200Pro, 2x16TB Ironwolf RAID0, Corsair HX1200, Antec Vortex 360 AIO, Thermaltake Versa H25 TG, Samsung 4K curved 49" TV, 23" secondary, Mountain Everest Max

Mobile SFF rig: i9-9900K, Noctua NH-L9i, Asrock Z390 Phantom ITX-AC, 32GB, GTX1070, 2x1TB SX8200Pro RAID0, 2x5TB 2.5" HDD RAID0, Athena 500W Flex (Noctua fan), Custom 4.7l 3D printed case

 

Asus Zenbook UM325UA, Ryzen 7 5700u, 16GB, 1TB, OLED

 

GPD Win 2

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