A powerful budget PC

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Budget (including currency): 700€

Country: Slovakia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: The usual and gaming

Other details: Aiming at 1080p - 1440p 60fps. Already have all the necessary peripherals, a GPU and storage.

 

Hello community,

 

Due to the need to purchase a new PC that will replace an old one and complement one I bought at the beginning of the year (14700K, 4070, 32GB, 850W), I would like to ask for your expertise again on what the final build might look like.

 

From the old PC, the storage and graphics card (currently 1660ti, later 4070) will be transferred. It probably won't surprise anyone that the goal here is to save money and avoid unnecessarily inflating the cost of the build (600-700€). Although it will complement the more powerful PC, the user will be different and less demanding, therefore lower performance and a lower budget are required. Nevertheless, the goal is also for it to be future-proof with the possibility of upgrading the CPU (AM5), graphics card (the 4070 or possibly 50xx), and additional storage.

 

I'll be purchasing from a local store ALZA and just maybe from other local stores if availability of hardware at the time of purchase will be limited.

Prices shouldn't be too different from global prices therefore we can roughly calculate the final budget.

 

Here's what my current selection looks like:

Motherboard: B650-S WIFI - want an ATX as they tend to be better in terms of power delivery and PCB design, Wifi is not necessary

CPU: 7600

RAM: Kingston 2x16GB

Power Supply: Adata XPG II or Seasonic Focus GX - not sure if I should stick with 750W or purchase 850W for future-proof performance

Cooler: Fortis 5, Fera 5, or Freezer 36 - also not sure weather there's another in the same price range that could offer better cooling

Case: Montech 903 MAX

 

thank you all for your time and posts.

[MiszS]

15 minutes ago, Invalidus said:

Budget (including currency): 700€

Country: Slovakia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: The usual and gaming

Other details: Aiming at 1080p - 1440p 60fps. Already have all the necessary peripherals, a GPU and storage.

 

Hello community,

 

Due to the need to purchase a new PC that will replace an old one and complement one I bought at the beginning of the year (14700K, 4070, 32GB, 850W), I would like to ask for your expertise again on what the final build might look like.

 

From the old PC, the storage and graphics card (currently 1660ti, later 4070) will be transferred. It probably won't surprise anyone that the goal here is to save money and avoid unnecessarily inflating the cost of the build (600-700€). Although it will complement the more powerful PC, the user will be different and less demanding, therefore lower performance and a lower budget are required. Nevertheless, the goal is also for it to be future-proof with the possibility of upgrading the CPU (AM5), graphics card (the 4070 or possibly 50xx), and additional storage.

 

I'll be purchasing from a local store ALZA and just maybe from other local stores if availability of hardware at the time of purchase will be limited.

Prices shouldn't be too different from global prices therefore we can roughly calculate the final budget.

 

Here's what my current selection looks like:

Motherboard: B650-S WIFI - want an ATX as they tend to be better in terms of power delivery and PCB design, Wifi is not necessary

CPU: 7600

RAM: Kingston 2x16GB

Power Supply: Adata XPG II or Seasonic Focus GX - not sure if I should stick with 750W or purchase 850W for future-proof performance

Cooler: Fortis 5, Fera 5, or Freezer 36 - also not sure weather there's another in the same price range that could offer better cooling

Case: Montech 903 MAX

 

thank you all for your time and posts.

Seems like a good parts selection, but you should get a 7500f if it's cheaper, and you really don't need an ATX motherboard, not sure where did you hear about the better power delivery, it just depends on each individual model, and with your CPU you don't need much anyway. A motherboard like this is more then enough, I personally built a pc with it and the 7500f, and it works with no issues, doesn't overheat or anything. The adata xpg core reactor 2 isn't as good as the 1 from what I know, so you should either get the seasonic if you want the 10 year warranty, or look if there is the reactor 1, or the MSI a850gl. 

Kinda unrelated, but how do you even search for anything on this site? I typed in the exact name of the power supplies, and 1 of them was on the second page, other is nowhere to be found

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17 minutes ago, MiszS said:

Seems like a good parts selection, but you should get a 7500f if it's cheaper, and you really don't need an ATX motherboard, not sure where did you hear about the better power delivery, it just depends on each individual model, and with your CPU you don't need much anyway. A motherboard like this is more then enough, I personally built a pc with it and the 7500f, and it works with no issues, doesn't overheat or anything. The adata xpg core reactor 2 isn't as good as the 1 from what I know, so you should either get the seasonic if you want the 10 year warranty, or look if there is the reactor 1, or the MSI a850gl. 

Kinda unrelated, but how do you even search for anything on this site? I typed in the exact name of the power supplies, and 1 of them was on the second page, other is nowhere to be found

For some reason searching on the site doesn't work properly when set in English, otherwise it works well. I found the Asrock motherboard and the XPG I too.

 

Apparently It's what I was explained from multiple sources that mATX make some compromises in the PCB as they're smaller than ATX.

Also it should handle a more powerful future upgrade like I mentioned (X3D, 4070 or 50xx).

As for the Core Reactor II, from the reviews I read it doesn't seem to be that much worse and handles transient power spikes quite well.

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Unfortunately they don't offer the 7500f, I'll go with 7600

[MiszS]

18 minutes ago, Invalidus said:

For some reason searching on the site doesn't work properly when set in English, otherwise it works well. I found the Asrock motherboard and the XPG I too.

 

Apparently It's what I was explained from multiple sources that mATX make some compromises in the PCB as they're smaller than ATX.

Also it should handle a more powerful future upgrade like I mentioned (X3D, 4070 or 50xx).

As for the Core Reactor II, from the reviews I read it doesn't seem to be that much worse and handles transient power spikes quite well.

Then get the XPG 1, it has an amazing value, 100$ for an A tier PSU is rlly good. The XPG 2 is only B tier, it had some issues I don't rlly remember now. The asrock motherboard you found is the A620 chipset, I wouldn't recommend those, but as I said, the B650m motherboard is more than enough for basically any gaming CPU, unless you plan to overclock an 7950x you don't need a better one. Only 2 things can bottleneck the GPU (besides the monitor ofc), and that's the CPU, or a too weak power supply, the motherboard doesn't matter at all, because it's not even connected to the chipset (which would still be fine), but directly to the CPU

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3 minutes ago, MiszS said:

Then get the XPG 1, it has an amazing value, 100$ for an A tier PSU is rlly good. The XPG 2 is only B tier, it had some issues I don't rlly remember now. The asrock motherboard you found is the A620 chipset, I wouldn't recommend those, but as I said, the B650m motherboard is more than enough for basically any gaming CPU, unless you plan to overclock an 7950x you don't need a better one

Sorry wrong then, it's this one. Thank you, I'll look at some more reviews of the Adata PSUs and comparisons and will decide. Do you have any personal experience with the considered coolers or you think there is not much difference between them?

[MiszS]

21 minutes ago, Invalidus said:

Sorry wrong then, it's this one. Thank you, I'll look at some more reviews of the Adata PSUs and comparisons and will decide. Do you have any personal experience with the considered coolers or you think there is not much difference between them?

I personally don't have an experience with those particular coolers, only saw the fera 5 in a guy's build while buying my GPU lol. All of those will cool a 7600 just fine, but if you want it to be more future proof, you can buy a peerless assasin 120 se for a tiny bit more, but better cooling. I built 2 PCs with this cooler, with the 7500f it peaked at 70 degrees while also being pretty quiet

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, Invalidus said:

For some reason searching on the site doesn't work properly when set in English, otherwise it works well. I found the Asrock motherboard and the XPG I too.

 

Apparently It's what I was explained from multiple sources that mATX make some compromises in the PCB as they're smaller than ATX.

Also it should handle a more powerful future upgrade like I mentioned (X3D, 4070 or 50xx).

As for the Core Reactor II, from the reviews I read it doesn't seem to be that much worse and handles transient power spikes quite well.

Correct, most matx and itx boards have smaller vrm.   But still enough for anything out.  B650 boards, at least the first crop of them, have more than enough power for any CPU out now or upcoming.

 

There are now some that suck tho, as manufacturers cut back after realizing they overbuilt in the first crop.  My guess.

 

So don't sweat the size, just double check it's not one of the new suck ones.

 

 

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On 8/13/2024 at 7:47 PM, MiszS said:

I personally don't have an experience with those particular coolers, only saw the fera 5 in a guy's build while buying my GPU lol. All of those will cool a 7600 just fine, but if you want it to be more future proof, you can buy a peerless assasin 120 se for a tiny bit more, but better cooling. I built 2 PCs with this cooler, with the 7500f it peaked at 70 degrees while also being pretty quiet

I wanted to include the peerless assassin but it's unfortunately out of stock and nowhere else to be found available so upon watching reviews I'm leaning towards the Freezer 36

On 8/13/2024 at 8:26 PM, Dedayog said:

Correct, most matx and itx boards have smaller vrm.   But still enough for anything out.  B650 boards, at least the first crop of them, have more than enough power for any CPU out now or upcoming.

 

There are now some that suck tho, as manufacturers cut back after realizing they overbuilt in the first crop.  My guess.

 

So don't sweat the size, just double check it's not one of the new suck ones.

 

 

That's news to me and very helpful advice, thank you

 

After all I need to include a boot drive, I'll have to slightly increase the budget. To save I'd usually go for something like the WD SN580, but it looks like for a bit more, I could get a good deal on the SN770 or the NM790 from Lexar, or even better, the 990 EVO is currently discounted and only €10 more than the cheapest

Would you have a recommendation or it doesn't make much difference?

[MiszS]

8 minutes ago, Invalidus said:

I wanted to include the peerless assassin but it's unfortunately out of stock and nowhere else to be found available so upon watching reviews I'm leaning towards the Freezer 36

That's news to me and very helpful advice, thank you

 

After all I need to include a boot drive, I'll have to slightly increase the budget. To save I'd usually go for something like the WD SN580, but it looks like for a bit more, I could get a good deal on the SN770 or the NM790 from Lexar, or even better, the 990 EVO is currently discounted and only €10 more than the cheapest

Would you have a recommendation or it doesn't make much difference?

Yeah the freezer 36 is also a good cooler. I personally have the NM790, and i recommend getting it, because it's the fastest out of all the SSDs you listed, or just get the WD blue, it's slower, but it won't affect the ingame performance

[Dedayog]

15 minutes ago, Invalidus said:

I wanted to include the peerless assassin but it's unfortunately out of stock and nowhere else to be found available so upon watching reviews I'm leaning towards the Freezer 36

That's news to me and very helpful advice, thank you

 

After all I need to include a boot drive, I'll have to slightly increase the budget. To save I'd usually go for something like the WD SN580, but it looks like for a bit more, I could get a good deal on the SN770 or the NM790 from Lexar, or even better, the 990 EVO is currently discounted and only €10 more than the cheapest

Would you have a recommendation or it doesn't make much difference?

SSD doesn't really matter anymore, they've grown so much faster than the data is needed to be processed.

 

I like Samsung personally, so if it's within reason that's my go to. Otherwise get any. 

 

No one can notice any gaming difference between them.

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Thank you, gentlemen. I'll decide at the last minute when placing the order. If I may ask additionally, there's a good deal on the Raijintek CRATOS 850W for €80 with a full 60-month warranty. I tried looking for reviews and tests, but there isn't much available. From the little I have found, it seems like a good-quality piece of hardware. Would you recommend it, or should I opt for a more verified brand like Seasonic?