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Weird Connection Issue

Sparky862
By Sparky862
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Okay. This is kind of hard to explain but bare with me.

 

In my house I have Fiber Connection. 200mb up and down.

 

Also in my house I have my PC and Xbox Series X. Both are hard wired to the Router.

 

Now the issue.

 

When we play games, my Wife would connect from the Xbox to my PC and we would play fine, no issues, no lag ..... BUT ...... When I join my Wife from my PC to the Xbox, I get extreme Lag in Multiplayer because Ping is too High.

 

I have tested this with a Friend. He is on hes own Fiber Connection next door from us. When he and my Wife connects to my PC so we can Multiplayer everything is fine, but as soon as myself and my friend connect to the Xbox, we BOTH get MASSIVE lag?

 

I have uPnP on my Router enabled and there is not much settings to adjust on Xbox. I even enabled QoS on Xbox within the Xbox settings itself so that the Xbox gets priority over my connection and the results are the same.

 

My question is, would this be a Router connection issue or a Xbox Setting issue? I don't know where to start

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On 7/2/2024 at 2:31 AM, Sparky862 said:

Router connection issue or a Xbox Setting issue?

Try opening resource manager (different from task) and going to the network tab.

 

Click the column for network down / up, so you see the currently most active connection as it appears.

 

Try installing wireshark and look for red/black lines, which indicate a failed connection, with black lines and green words is a re-transmission of a previous failed connection.

 

Try disabling ipv6 at the router and pc level.

 

Seems like a pc NIC setting is causing issue, try reducing MTU to 1472 or 1480 or 1492 for a test.

 

Might be some nic settings you can change.  Open control panel, not settings.

 

Go to network adapters, and right click your ethernet adapter and click properties.

 

Then click "Configure" to change the settings of the nic.

 

In the new window click the second tab, advanced.  Look through, research and test various settings one at a time, and unplug and reconnect the cable / disable re-enable adapter each time.

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3 hours ago, E-waste said:

Try opening resource manager (different from task) and going to the network tab.

 

Click the column for network down / up, so you see the currently most active connection as it appears.

 

Try installing wireshark and look for red/black lines, which indicate a failed connection, with black lines and green words is a re-transmission of a previous failed connection.

 

Try disabling ipv6 at the router and pc level.

 

Seems like a pc NIC setting is causing issue, try reducing MTU to 1472 or 1480 or 1492 for a test.

 

Might be some nic settings you can change.  Open control panel, not settings.

 

Go to network adapters, and right click your ethernet adapter and click properties.

 

Then click "Configure" to change the settings of the nic.

 

In the new window click the second tab, advanced.  Look through, research and test various settings one at a time, and unplug and reconnect the cable / disable re-enable adapter each time.

Not too sure I'd be playing with MTU settings here. There isn't really a reason that this would need to be changed, it's not like you're running any encapsulation or jumbo frames.

For better troubleshooting I'd look at doing an iPerf test - https://iperf.fr/ there's loads of documentation on how to do it. But do ask if you're not sure.

 

Do a test with only you on the line, do one when your Wife is doing normal tasks and see if it gets congested or you notice and noticeable decreases in speed.

Turning on QoS isn't going to do anything. It means your router will prioritise the traffic but no ISP is going to honour this so your results will be pretty small or non existent with that one.

Out of interest what router are you running at home?

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21 hours ago, TechJ said:

Not too sure I'd be playing with MTU settings here. There isn't really a reason that this would need to be changed, it's not like you're running any encapsulation or jumbo frames.

Depends, some fibre providers use PPPoE in which case their network and your router needs to support and be configured for baby jumbo frames to not end up with a 1492 MTU.

 

I'm not even sure how Xbox Live handles this stuff, especially cross-platform.

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