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[starsmine]

12 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

Also, your feeling is wrong. I have repaired old washing machines plenty of times, even coin operated machines.

notice the pronouns used here. I
who is I? Is I the manufacturer? nope. 

[MadAnt250]

1 hour ago, manikyath said:

yes you have, but was the manufacturer of this old washing machine at all willing to provide anything for free?

Only a few appliance manufacturers have warranties that may cover that far, but my answer for my case is no. 

 

You see, it's not the fact that they don't do it for free, we all need to make money. As long as I can keep things going and the product does exactly what it needs to do and what it should do, everything is fine. We or just them make money from the repair.

 

Also, where are you going with this?

Is your washing machine broke? I'm not going to repair your washing machine for free.

[Zando_]

3 hours ago, jordanbuilds1 said:

i can see that, the only reason i was questioning it is because nvidia to this day still supports the 750 ti even tho it sucks in almost anything accept esports titles at low.

750 Ti is supported as the most basic display-out offering, it isn't getting gaming optimizations. 

[Salted Spinach]

9 hours ago, jordanbuilds1 said:

 

I think

AMD will definitely maintain support for products that they are still producing and supplying for manufacture of the end user product. Are you buying a GPU that is fresh out of the fab, or one that has been sitting in a warehouse or someone else's room for years?

 

I think

Expecting continued support for an out of production item released 7 years ago is unreasonable

 

I think

AMD has been exceptional in product support within its industry if you look at the AM4 platform

 

I think

that extending "support" for very many years is often perceived to be far more important that it actually is. I am using an X470 mobo that has stopped getting new BIOS updates for a long time. In fact the last few BIOS updates might not have made any difference for me at all. There has been no issues in usage, no loss of performance or functionality.

 

I think

With regards to processors and mainboards, the main benefit of "support" post release is the development of the firmware or driver to squeeze out every last bit of performance and eliminate reported issues.

 

I think

7 years of "support" is more than sufficient for the purpose stated above, and extending it will not yield much if at all.

[manikyath]

7 hours ago, MadAnt250 said:

Only a few appliance manufacturers have warranties that may cover that far, but my answer for my case is no. 

 

You see, it's not the fact that they don't do it for free, we all need to make money

and yet you expect free driver updates a decade after the release of a piece of hardware as if it's some kind of god-given right.

 

fact of the matter is that GPU support cycles are exceptionally long already, and that support cycle usually ends with a whql driver that will get you up and running for many years to come.

[starsmine]

yea I want to stress, my 760, so one gen older then the 750ti, would still run in my PC fine, it just wont run new games. 

My dad is still dailying his PC with an ATI GPU. But he doesnt play games in general. 

ending GPU support does not damn you into buying a new GPU.

[jordanbuilds1]

14 hours ago, Zando_ said:

750 Ti is supported as the most basic display-out offering, it isn't getting gaming optimizations. 

they still get game ready drivers tho

[jordanbuilds1]

13 hours ago, Salted Spinach said:

I think

AMD will definitely maintain support for products that they are still producing and supplying for manufacture of the end user product. Are you buying a GPU that is fresh out of the fab, or one that has been sitting in a warehouse or someone else's room for years?

 

I think

Expecting continued support for an out of production item released 7 years ago is unreasonable

 

I think

AMD has been exceptional in product support within its industry if you look at the AM4 platform

 

I think

that extending "support" for very many years is often perceived to be far more important that it actually is. I am using an X470 mobo that has stopped getting new BIOS updates for a long time. In fact the last few BIOS updates might not have made any difference for me at all. There has been no issues in usage, no loss of performance or functionality.

 

I think

With regards to processors and mainboards, the main benefit of "support" post release is the development of the firmware or driver to squeeze out every last bit of performance and eliminate reported issues.

 

I think

7 years of "support" is more than sufficient for the purpose stated above, and extending it will not yield much if at all.

thats cpus tho, and amd is still making and anouncing am4 chips. 

edit: i also posted this on toms hw and someone pointed out that amds apus use vega and are still on consoles.

[Zando_]

3 hours ago, jordanbuilds1 said:

they still get game ready drivers tho

"GeForce Game Ready" is what Nvidia lists all their GeForce gaming drivers as. Though as @YoungBlade noted, the 750 Ti is Maxwell, so it will get overall Maxwell optimizations. I doubt there's any specific work done for the 750 Ti itself. Kepler (most of 700 series) is EOL and only gets critical security patches till the end of 2024.

 

Worth noting that the R9 200/300 and Fury GPUs that predated the RX400/500 series are from the same era as Maxwell. Their driver support was axed back in 2021.

 

So 1) Nvidia supports the 750 Ti because they support Maxwell cards still, and that GPU just happens to be Maxwell, and 2) AMD hasn't kept their cards supported for as long in the past, so I'm not sure why Nvidia's support cycle is supposed to dictate how AMD does things.

[jordanbuilds1]

people bought up some good points, but im wondering how we got to washing machine repairs?!?!