Issue with heat

[GoddessFreya]

I somewhat recently built a new pc and I'm having an issue with the amount of heat that is getting pushed out of the machine into my room and was wondering if I could do anything to help with the issue, I have 2 aios that are both exhausting air and 2 intake fans. ( including image with current intake/exhaust flow. )

 

my build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bRfLTY

[TatamiMatt]

4 minutes ago, GoddessFreya said:

I somewhat recently built a new pc and I'm having an issue with the amount of heat that is getting pushed out of the machine into my room and was wondering if I could do anything to help with the issue, I have 2 aios that are both exhausting air and 2 intake fans. ( including image with current intake/exhaust flow. )

 

my build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bRfLTY

No matter how you configure the fans, the same amount of heat will always be added to the overall temps in the room, as is the case with laws of thermodynamics and enthalpy

 

Is your room warming up too much, or is your Pc running too hot for your liking?

[WereCat]

Not much you can do besides heavily power limiting both your GPU and CPU. 

[GoddessFreya]

2 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

No matter how you configure the fans, the same amount of heat will always be added to the overall temps in the room, as is the case with laws of thermodynamics and enthalpy

 

Is your room warming up too much, or is your Pc running too hot for your liking?

my pc temps are fine im pretty sure l, it just puts out as much heat as a space heater  

[WereCat]

6 minutes ago, GoddessFreya said:

my pc temps are fine im pretty sure l, it just puts out as much heat as a space heater  

It's just physics. The more power your PC uses the more heat it will produce. 

[Poinkachu]

1 hour ago, GoddessFreya said:

was wondering if I could do anything to help with the issue

Pick 1 or more  :
1. Add aircon to your room

2. Add an exhaust to expel warm air out of your room

3. Reduce your PC spec / reduce your PC performance

 

or

Which is pretty much #2, just that you'll be making the exhaust "directly" from your PC straight to outside.

 

[Spotty]

6 minutes ago, GoddessFreya said:

I'm having an issue with the amount of heat that is getting pushed out of the machine into my room

Changing the cooling configuration of the system won't change the heat that is exhausted in to the room. Your system is consuming electricity which is converted in to heat energy which is being dissipated in to the atmosphere (ie. the air in your room). If the hot air coming out of the PC is an issue you can either remove the hot air from the room (open a window, air con, fan) or reduce the energy the system is consuming. You might see some minor improvement by undervolting or power limiting the CPU & GPU, at a cost of performance.

 

1 minute ago, GoddessFreya said:

my pc temps are fine im pretty sure l, it just puts out as much heat as a space heater  

The 12900K and 6900XT are both very power consuming parts and will generate a lot of heat. Under heavy loads the CPU can consume up to 200W and the GPU will consume around 300W. If you've overclocked/increased the power limits then it could consume even more power. The electrical energy consumed by the system is converted (almost entirely) to heat energy. This means that under heavy loads your computer is basically a 500W space heater.

 

With the fan configuration you currently have if you have the case near you on the desk with the front of the case facing you the hot air will be blowing directly towards you. It might help feel less uncomfortable if you flip that around to intake and the rear fan as exhaust so that the hot air isn't blowing towards you. It'll still raise the temperature of the room the same but at least it won't be blowing hot air directly in your face. (Or just move the PC so the fans aren't facing you)

[TPCEA]

22 hours ago, GoddessFreya said:

I somewhat recently built a new pc and I'm having an issue with the amount of heat that is getting pushed out of the machine into my room and was wondering if I could do anything to help with the issue, I have 2 aios that are both exhausting air and 2 intake fans. ( including image with current intake/exhaust flow. )

 

my build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bRfLTY

@TatamiMattis correct. All you can do is undervolt the CPU and GPU as @WereCatalluded to, which will definitely reduce the heat produced, and turn it off when not in use, unless you can either exhaust the air out of the room or move the case to a different room while keeping everything external where it is. @Poinkachu's point about A/C is also good, although it's not efficient.

 

Yes, as @Spotty said, performance will decrease, but it probably won't be by much, and you can OC as well to try to find a balance.  I have done this on my 12700k and 6800 XT, and it does help. Spotty's point about the fans is an excellent one for you personally.  I recently did AIO testing with the air exhausting at me and I really didn't like that even though the room was cool. 

[TylerD321]

14 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

@TatamiMattis correct. All you can do is undervolt the CPU and GPU as @WereCatalluded to, which will definitely reduce the heat produced, and turn it off when not in use, unless you can either exhaust the air out of the room or move the case to a different room while keeping everything external where it is. @Poinkachu's point about A/C is also good, although it's not efficient.

 

Yes, as @Spotty said, performance will decrease, but it probably won't be by much, and you can OC as well to try to find a balance.  I have done this on my 12700k and 6800 XT, and it does help. Spotty's point about the fans is an excellent one for you personally.  I recently did AIO testing with the air exhausting me and I really didn't like that even though the room was cool. 

One additional thing I have done before is limiting fps in games. I tend to lock my limit my fps to about 15 fps over what my monitor is rated for. In some games I was getting like 400 fps and by reducing the frame limit it also reduces the load on pc.

[Agall]

2 hours ago, GoddessFreya said:

my pc temps are fine im pretty sure l, it just puts out as much heat as a space heater  

The operating temperature of the machine only barely affects the amount of energy its consuming, microprocessors will get marginally more power efficient at lower temperatures.

 

A CPU+GPU+system consuming 600W under load will put ~600W of heat energy into the space. PCs are basically just giant space heaters that perform computational work. 

 

Depending on your GPU, its quite possible to significantly reduce power draw by TDP limiting the card to 90% TDP and framerate capping. For my rig that can consume upwards of 700W under load, it can be the difference of -300W doing so. The difference between 90% TDP and 100% or even 133% isn't that significant, maybe 20-25% performance. Same goes with limiting the CPU to ~105W on both AMD and Intel. AMD's architecture being more efficiently likely because of the smaller lithography that using TSMC provides.

 

What also helps is going with 7000x3D and RTX 4000, if you had to choose hardware for performance/watt. DLSS in my experience also reduces power draw for the same or more performance.

[DreamCat04]

19 hours ago, Agall said:

Depending on your GPU, its quite possible to significantly reduce power draw by TDP limiting the card to 90% TDP and framerate capping. For my rig that can consume upwards of 700W under load, it can be the difference of -300W doing so. The difference between 90% TDP and 100% or even 133% isn't that significant, maybe 20-25% performance. Same goes with limiting the CPU to ~105W on both AMD and Intel. AMD's architecture being more efficiently likely because of the smaller lithography that using TSMC provides.

I've found that 110% power limit on my card doesn't really get me any additionnal real-world performance, it just allows the card to hit its max boost clock. I've found it to be most efficient at around 85% power limit, losing only a few FPS but drawing over 30W less (around 175 compared to 210-215W with 110% PL). Can definitely recommend going into a game, looking at the FPS and reducing the power limit until you notice a big performance drop compared to 100% power limit and stop there