About to order the parts for an $1800 AUD build. Any thouughts?

[Tydn12]

Budget (including currency): 1800

Country: Australlia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: RDR2, Last of Us Part 1, Alan Wake 2, Doom Eternal

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xXtDsh

[Why_Me]

You want DDR5-6000 CL30 for these AM5 builds.

[Tydn12]

10 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

You want DDR5-6000 CL30 for these AM5 builds.

Is it really that worth it? Cheapest 6000mhz cl30 is 40 bucks more

[TatamiMatt]

49 minutes ago, Tydn12 said:

Is it really that worth it? Cheapest 6000mhz cl30 is 40 bucks more

6000CL32 is also an option 5200CL40 is VERY slow RAM, like average DDR4 is faster kinda slow

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($308.00 @ Centre Com) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG Lightning Wifi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($197.00 @ I-Tech) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 16 GB (1 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  ($146.21 @ Amazon Australia) 
Storage: Patriot P310 1.92 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($137.00 @ Amazon Australia) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($629.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Case: NZXT H5 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($136.29 @ JW Computers) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD750GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.00 @ Scorptec) 
Custom: Windows 11 Home ($9.80)
Custom: Kingston 64GB DataTraveler Exodia USB 3.2 Flash Drive ($8.00)
Total: $1690.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-25 19:50 AEST+1000

 

Few upgrades and a lot of cost saving

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/rcHkrv

some upgrades

 

mobo has been upgraded since the b650m pg lightning has a trash vrm, just about handles a 7950x stock but it is nowhere near the b650m hdv thatll handle one of those overclocked

 

rams have been upgraded, after you set xmp manually set ram frequency to 6000 for 1:1 uclk with no additional tuning or stresstest required

 

psu has been upgraded to an 850w with a 10 year warranty and no fan noise complaints

 

ssd has been upgraded to an actual high end dram gen4 for an extra $ so you go from dramless qlc trash thats barely any faster than a gen3 whilst being priced like a high end dram gen4 to actually getting a high end dram gen4

[TatamiMatt]

10 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/rcHkrv

some upgrades

 

mobo has been upgraded since the b650m pg lightning has a trash vrm, just about handles a 7950x stock but it is nowhere near the b650m hdv thatll handle one of those overclocked

 

rams have been upgraded, after you set xmp manually set ram frequency to 6000 for 1:1 uclk with no additional tuning or stresstest required

 

psu has been upgraded to an 850w with a 10 year warranty and no fan noise complaints

 

ssd has been upgraded to an actual high end dram gen4 for an extra $ so you go from dramless qlc trash thats barely any faster than a gen3 whilst being priced like a high end dram gen4 to actually getting a high end dram gen4

Id also just get rid of the cooler as 7600 non X comes with stock cooler. If case airflow is fine then it should have no issue cooling. 50 bucks saved

[Tydn12]

43 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Id also just get rid of the cooler as 7600 non X comes with stock cooler. If case airflow is fine then it should have no issue cooling. 50 bucks saved

I'd like the system to be very quiet, so a stock cooler wouldn't do it for me.

[Tydn12]

55 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/rcHkrv

some upgrades

 

mobo has been upgraded since the b650m pg lightning has a trash vrm, just about handles a 7950x stock but it is nowhere near the b650m hdv thatll handle one of those overclocked

 

rams have been upgraded, after you set xmp manually set ram frequency to 6000 for 1:1 uclk with no additional tuning or stresstest required

 

psu has been upgraded to an 850w with a 10 year warranty and no fan noise complaints

 

ssd has been upgraded to an actual high end dram gen4 for an extra $ so you go from dramless qlc trash thats barely any faster than a gen3 whilst being priced like a high end dram gen4 to actually getting a high end dram gen4

I'm using a r5 7600 and even if I do upgrade in a future, I'm not planning on getting an 165W CPU and overclocking it. But I agree with everything else you've said. Also is it bad that I want the PG Lightning because I want my build to be all black? Also the PG Lighning has PCIE 5.0 SSD compatibility if I want to upgrade in the future.

[Tydn12]

1 hour ago, TatamiMatt said:

6000CL32 is also an option 5200CL40 is VERY slow RAM, like average DDR4 is faster kinda slow

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($308.00 @ Centre Com) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG Lightning Wifi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($197.00 @ I-Tech) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 16 GB (1 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  ($146.21 @ Amazon Australia) 
Storage: Patriot P310 1.92 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($137.00 @ Amazon Australia) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($629.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Case: NZXT H5 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($136.29 @ JW Computers) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD750GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.00 @ Scorptec) 
Custom: Windows 11 Home ($9.80)
Custom: Kingston 64GB DataTraveler Exodia USB 3.2 Flash Drive ($8.00)
Total: $1690.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-25 19:50 AEST+1000

 

Few upgrades and a lot of cost saving

Are you sure that Gigabyte PSU is safe these days? Also single channel 16GB probably won't cut it for RAM-heavy games like Rust, and is also leaving a lot of performance on the table since it's not dual channel. And I also noticed that you downgraded the SSD to PCIe 3. Will that be a noticeable difference and is it worth the performance loss? 

[Tydn12]

1 hour ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/rcHkrv

some upgrades

 

mobo has been upgraded since the b650m pg lightning has a trash vrm, just about handles a 7950x stock but it is nowhere near the b650m hdv thatll handle one of those overclocked

 

rams have been upgraded, after you set xmp manually set ram frequency to 6000 for 1:1 uclk with no additional tuning or stresstest required

 

psu has been upgraded to an 850w with a 10 year warranty and no fan noise complaints

 

ssd has been upgraded to an actual high end dram gen4 for an extra $ so you go from dramless qlc trash thats barely any faster than a gen3 whilst being priced like a high end dram gen4 to actually getting a high end dram gen4

On second thought the Verbatim has a 2 year warranty compared to Crucial's 5 year warranty. I would much rather the security of the 5 yr warranty to be honest.

[TatamiMatt]

10 minutes ago, Tydn12 said:

Are you sure that Gigabyte PSU is safe these days? Also single channel 16GB probably won't cut it for RAM-heavy games like Rust, and is also leaving a lot of performance on the table since it's not dual channel. And I also noticed that you downgraded the SSD to PCIe 3. Will that be a noticeable difference and is it worth the performance loss? 

Oh i thought i clicked 2x16gbs my bad, ill make a few changes here

[TatamiMatt]

10 minutes ago, Tydn12 said:

On second thought the Verbatim has a 2 year warranty compared to Crucial's 5 year warranty. I would much rather the security of the 5 yr warranty to be honest.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($308.00 @ Centre Com) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG Lightning Wifi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($195.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  ($169.00 @ BPC Technology) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($188.00 @ Amazon Australia) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($629.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Case: NZXT H5 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($136.29 @ JW Computers) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 ATX 3.0 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.00 @ Amazon Australia) 
Custom: Windows 11 Home ($9.80)
Custom: Kingston 64GB DataTraveler Exodia USB 3.2 Flash Drive ($8.00)
Total: $1851.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-25 21:33 AEST+1000

 

5 year warranty P3 back in

Much better cooler for pretty much the same price, will run quieter than the arctic again

Much better RAM, should be A-die and choose the 6000CL30 XMP profile, will net the best performance

I chose @Somerandomtechybois PSU recommendation, very good PSU, can save money with the 750W and 650W versions if you dont want the extra wattage headroom but will be good for future upgrade to have the extra wattage

 

If you want a non rgb cooler choose the one below instead

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3

 

Updated build list with this cooler if youd prefer no RGB

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/rf2tFs

[Tydn12]

7 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($308.00 @ Centre Com) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG Lightning Wifi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($195.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  ($169.00 @ BPC Technology) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($188.00 @ Amazon Australia) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($629.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Case: NZXT H5 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($136.29 @ JW Computers) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 ATX 3.0 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.00 @ Amazon Australia) 
Custom: Windows 11 Home ($9.80)
Custom: Kingston 64GB DataTraveler Exodia USB 3.2 Flash Drive ($8.00)
Total: $1851.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-25 21:33 AEST+1000

 

5 year warranty P3 back in

Much better cooler for pretty much the same price, will run quieter than the arctic again

Much better RAM, should be A-die and choose the 6000CL30 XMP profile, will net the best performance

I chose @Somerandomtechybois PSU recommendation, very good PSU, can save money with the 750W and 650W versions if you dont want the extra wattage headroom but will be good for future upgrade to have the extra wattage

To be honest I hate the look of that cooler. I'm going for either all black or just a couple RGB accents here and there. Any all-black cooler that does the job just as well? Otherwise great suggestions.

[TatamiMatt]

7 minutes ago, Tydn12 said:

To be honest I hate the look of that cooler. I'm going for either all black or just a couple RGB accents here and there. Any all-black cooler that does the job just as well? Otherwise great suggestions.

Even the non-rgb variant? I can grab another if so

[Tydn12]

2 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Even the non-rgb variant? I can grab another if so

Is that the 120 EVO you're talking about? That has very limited availability in Australia, I can only find it on aliexpress or very small retailers for jacked up prices.

[TatamiMatt]

3 minutes ago, Tydn12 said:

Is that the 120 EVO you're talking about? That has very limited availability in Australia, I can only find it on aliexpress or very small retailers for jacked up prices.

No just the base non rgb peerless assassin

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3

[Tydn12]

3 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

No just the base non rgb peerless assassin

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3

Seems great but is only available at one major retailer which is $70AUD+ including shipping, whereas the AK400 zero dark I can pick up from a store near me.

Edit: Nvm I found one that has it at the same price with free shipping. Is this one quieter than the AK400?

Edited April 25 by Tydn12

[TatamiMatt]

12 minutes ago, Tydn12 said:

Seems great but is only available at one major retailer which is $70AUD+ including shipping, whereas the AK400 zero dark I can pick up from a store near me.

Depends on the price, the freezer 36 should be tad better

 

It's a pretty decent cooler, and thermalright has some pretty meh pricing in Austrailia compared to other parts of the world

[Tydn12]

UPDATE:

This is what I realistically would have bought ($1826):

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/V3BNwg

 

This is what I'm tempted to go with based off suggestions ($1867):

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/pZj3GP

 

Is $40 worth the difference?

 

(The motherboard is $210 including shipping)

[TatamiMatt]

34 minutes ago, Tydn12 said:

UPDATE:

This is what I realistically would have bought ($1826):

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/V3BNwg

 

This is what I'm tempted to go with based off suggestions ($1867):

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/pZj3GP

 

Is $40 worth the difference?

 

(The motherboard is $210 including shipping)

$40 for a better cooler, much better RAM and better PSU with 100W extra headroom, not a bad deal imo

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 hour ago, Tydn12 said:

On second thought the Verbatim has a 2 year warranty compared to Crucial's 5 year warranty. I would much rather the security of the 5 yr warranty to be honest.

kinda ironic when you got an overpriced 7 year warranty psu instead of a 10 year one but i have some alternative ssd options

 

kc3000 with a 5 year warranty should also be abit faster than the verbatim albiet 30$ extra

 

nm620 5 year warranty 20$ cheaper and should still outperform the p3 in random r/w (which is what youll probs be doing most like windows doing stuff in the background) cause its a dram ssd, should also last longer since its a dram tlc drive and not a dramless qlc drive though we are talking in a timescale of >10 years

 

1 hour ago, Tydn12 said:

I'm using a r5 7600 and even if I do upgrade in a future, I'm not planning on getting an 165W CPU and overclocking it. But I agree with everything else you've said. Also is it bad that I want the PG Lightning because I want my build to be all black? Also the PG Lighning has PCIE 5.0 SSD compatibility if I want to upgrade in the future.

gen 4 ssds are already useless for the average user as games isimply wont take advantage of that speed and the only reasons youd see me reccomending those when not neccesary is either value (dram gen 4 is not much more than a dram gen3) or budget allows for it, so dont expect to ever need gen5 when most ppl dont even need gen4 atm

 

b650m pg riptide a step above the lightning with a not garbage vrm, still abit worse than the gaming plus i/o wise (less usb3 ports on the rear) but that shouldnt matter too much as you still have 7 of em (3 rear 4 internal)

 

aesthetics preferences are fine as long as you have the budget and you arent gimping your specs for the sake of aesthetics

[Tydn12]

12 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

kinda ironic when you got an overpriced 7 year warranty psu instead of a 10 year one but i have some alternative ssd options

 

kc3000 with a 5 year warranty should also be abit faster than the verbatim albiet 30$ extra

 

nm620 5 year warranty 20$ cheaper and should still outperform the p3 in random r/w (which is what youll probs be doing most like windows doing stuff in the background) cause its a dram ssd, should also last longer since its a dram tlc drive and not a dramless qlc drive though we are talking in a timescale of >10 years

 

gen 4 ssds are already useless for the average user as games isimply wont take advantage of that speed and the only reasons youd see me reccomending those when not neccesary is either value (dram gen 4 is not much more than a dram gen3) or budget allows for it, so dont expect to ever need gen5 when most ppl dont even need gen4 atm

 

b650m pg riptide a step above the lightning with a not garbage vrm, still abit worse than the gaming plus i/o wise (less usb3 ports on the rear) but that shouldnt matter too much as you still have 7 of em (3 rear 4 internal)

 

aesthetics preferences are fine as long as you have the budget and you arent gimping your specs for the sake of aesthetics

Do you have any DRAM gen 4 recommendations or should I just go for the NM620 given my budget? I most likely won't tell the difference anyway so I would prefer longevity. Thanks for the advice.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

33 minutes ago, Tydn12 said:

Do you have any DRAM gen 4 recommendations or should I just go for the NM620 given my budget? I most likely won't tell the difference anyway so I would prefer longevity. Thanks for the advice.

id reccomend that nm620 as you wont notice the diff anyways

 

only dram gen4 thats worth it value wise is that verbatim ssd since all the others are either dramless or alot more expensive