14700K + 4070K New Build. Will become an unRAID server in the future

[rh535]

I am looking to build a new computer for the first time since 2017. I plan to move these components to become my unRAID server once I need something new (4 years away or so). This is why I've selected the motherboard (10Gb and Thunderbolt built-in). I also have 15 drives currently in my server, and that is another reason for the higher-watt PSU.

What do you all think about this build? I hope to save money where I can, but I am willing to spend more if the price/performance is worth it in the long run - considering I will be making this my unRAID server in the future and using the parts for 6+ years.

USA Based

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Noctua NT-H2 3.5 g Thermal Paste ($12.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ProArt Z790-CREATOR WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($439.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($138.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (Purchased For $671.99)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: MSI MEG Ai1000P PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($251.00 @ B&H)
Case Fan: Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan (Purchased For $0.00)
Case Fan: Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan (Purchased For $0.00)

Current monitor - LG-C2 42'

Total: $2044.90

[Why_Me]

I'm not seeing a cpu cooler listed on there.

[rh535]

7 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

I'm not seeing a cpu cooler listed on there.

Correct. I forgot to include - I'm looking for an air-cooled cooler. 

[LIGISTX]

29 minutes ago, rh535 said:

I am looking to build a new computer for the first time since 2017. I plan to move these components to become my unRAID server once I need something new (4 years away or so). This is why I've selected the motherboard (10Gb and Thunderbolt built-in). I also have 15 drives currently in my server, and that is another reason for the higher-watt PSU.

What do you all think about this build? I hope to save money where I can, but I am willing to spend more if the price/performance is worth it in the long run - considering I will be making this my unRAID server in the future and using the parts for 6+ years.

USA Based

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Noctua NT-H2 3.5 g Thermal Paste ($12.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ProArt Z790-CREATOR WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($439.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($138.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (Purchased For $671.99)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: MSI MEG Ai1000P PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($251.00 @ B&H)
Case Fan: Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan (Purchased For $0.00)
Case Fan: Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan (Purchased For $0.00)

Current monitor - LG-C2 42'

Total: $2044.90

It is extreme overkill for a NAS... but as a desktop, yea thats a solid build. I would consider a cheaper mobo if the only reason you got that was for potential later expansion. You can get 10 gig PCIe NIC's for relatively cheap and can add them in later. If you don't want to deal with that, sure, this is a fine solution.

[Why_Me]

11 minutes ago, rh535 said:

Correct. I forgot to include - I'm looking for an air-cooled cooler. 

Locked cpu for air cooling, low profile RAM so that it doesn't impede said dual tower air cooler.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-14700 2.1 GHz 20-Core Processor  ($399.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A720 BLACK 98.6 CFM CPU Cooler  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $579.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-20 19:02 EDT-0400

 

A better look at those components.

 

https://www.idcooling.com/Product/detail/id/441/name/FROZN A720 BLACK

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cooling/id-cooling-frozn-a720-and-a620-review 

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/236781/intel-core-i7-processor-14700-33m-cache-up-to-5-40-ghz/specifications.html     

 

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/377/1649234797/F5-6000J3040F16GX2-RS5K-F5-6000J3040F16GA2-RS5K

[Alex Atkin UK]

20 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

It is extreme overkill for a NAS... but as a desktop, yea thats a solid build. I would consider a cheaper mobo if the only reason you got that was for potential later expansion. You can get 10 gig PCIe NIC's for relatively cheap and can add them in later. If you don't want to deal with that, sure, this is a fine solution.

Depends, a lot of people expect a NAS to do double duty with VMs/containers.  Having more cores can be extremely useful there.  I upgraded my "server" from a 12400 to a 14700K for the extra cores (14700 was barely any cheaper).

 

Although I will say I added 128GB of RAM first, that made a huge difference as I do a lot of real-time pulling in large directory structures which get cached in RAM and all swapping gets done in RAM rather than hitting the swap partition/file.

[LIGISTX]

2 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Depends, a lot of people expect a NAS to do double duty with VMs/containers.  Having more cores can be extremely useful there.  I upgraded my "server" from a 12400 to a 14700K for the extra cores (14700 was barely any cheaper).

 

Although I will say I added 128GB of RAM first, that made a huge difference as I do a lot of real-time pulling in large directory structures which get cached in RAM and all swapping gets done in RAM rather than hitting the swap partition/file.

I mean.... sure. But I ran my homelab on an i3 6100 for years without any issues at all. Granted, my homelab doesn't "do all that much", but I have a truenas VM, multiple ubuntu VM's, a dozen docker containers, windows VM, some LXC's for stuff like unifi controller, home assistant etc. 

 

The only reason I upgraded was for more RAM as well. That i3 machine could only do up to 32 GB of ECC, and I just needed more, but the 4 threads (2 core + HT) was honestly enver an issue... and I would imagine I do more than the vast majority of people building random unraid boxes (I run proxmox, but, same idea). There are plenty of folks who certainly need the pretty crazy homelab builds, but most probabaly don't and can get away with much less than they think they need. 

[Alex Atkin UK]

1 minute ago, LIGISTX said:

I mean.... sure. But I ran my homelab on an i3 6100 for years without any issues at all. Granted, my homelab doesn't "do all that much", but I have a truenas VM, multiple ubuntu VM's, a dozen docker containers, windows VM, some LXC's for stuff like unifi controller, home assistant etc. 

 

The only reason I upgraded was for more RAM as well. That i3 machine could only do up to 32 GB of ECC, and I just needed more, but the 4 threads (2 core + HT) was honestly enver an issue... and I would imagine I do more than the vast majority of people building random unraid boxes (I run proxmox, but, same idea). There are plenty of folks who certainly need the pretty crazy homelab builds, but most probabaly don't and can get away with much less than they think they need. 

Nothing I disagree with there, I'm aware my situation is somewhat unique as I'm trying to conserve disk space by not keeping preview thumbnails of my media files and just letting them generate in real-time.

 

But if its being built for a desktop now and will become a NAS later, its definitely not wasted.  The idle power consumption seems basically identical between the 12400 and the 14700K, so it just has the power there when it needs it.  It does seem to have made Plex indexing new files a lot faster.

[rh535]

Do you all think 1000 watts is overkill? Could I get away with 850? I have 10 hard drives in my unRAID server right now and can add another 5 more.

Thanks everyone for all your thoughts and comments.

[brob]

2 hours ago, rh535 said:

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Noctua NT-H2 3.5 g Thermal Paste ($12.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ProArt Z790-CREATOR WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($439.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($138.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (Purchased For $671.99)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: MSI MEG Ai1000P PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($251.00 @ B&H)
Case Fan: Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan (Purchased For $0.00)
Case Fan: Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm Fan (Purchased For $0.00)

 

2 hours ago, rh535 said:

Correct. I forgot to include - I'm looking for an air-cooled cooler. 

 

Trident Z5 RGB memory modules are suboptimal when using most high performance air tower coolers. Since the coolers usually overhang the memory area the lighting is obscured. There can also be issues with outer fan placement.

 

Did you have to remove a front fan to install the GPU?

 

You likely will not need the Noctua thermal compound if a new cooler is acquired.

 

Is 32GB of memory going to be enough for the server?

 

[rh535]

12 minutes ago, brob said:

 

 

Trident Z5 RGB memory modules are suboptimal when using most high performance air tower coolers. Since the coolers usually overhang the memory area the lighting is obscured. There can also be issues with outer fan placement.

 

Did you have to remove a front fan to install the GPU?

 

You likely will not need the Noctua thermal compound if a new cooler is acquired.

 

Is 32GB of memory going to be enough for the server?

 

Gotcha. Makes sense!

Do you have any other memory in mind?

I was thinking 32GB for now and maybe doubling when I move everything over. 

I should also include - Im getting $20 off with the PSU/Memory combo from Newegg.

[rh535]

What do you think of this memory? I would get $15 back because I have a Amazon credit card.

Crucial Pro RAM 48GB Kit (2x24GB) DDR5 6000MHz
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CGGFR7J8/ref=twister_B0CYXMLXGY?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

 

[brob]

1 hour ago, rh535 said:

I was thinking 32GB for now and maybe doubling when I move everything over. 

 

At the moment DDR5 has issues with higher speed memory in 4 slots. If you are thinking of adding more memory later you might consider starting with a 2x32GB or 2x48GB DDR5-6000 CL32 kit.