new gaming pc around 1300 €

[Ljudevit Gaj]

Budget (including currency): not above 1400 €

Country: Croatia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: gaming (cyberpunk, fh5, tlou, 1440p >60fps, not streaming); some raw photo editing from time to time

 

Upgrading from i5-3470, rx560 and 16gb of ddr3. My current parts list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/f4RJQP. I'm not sure about the gpu, 6800 non-xt performs on part with 7700xt which is newer and also has av1 encoding support, but since I don't stream nor video edit I figured it would be better to have more vram to future proof myself, am I right? as for nvidia, I don't really need any of the fancy features, so I went with amd since I think it's better value currently. I also don't have any monitor apart from an old vga one which I plan to use as a secondary display, so any recommendations are appreciated.

[podkall]

Intel:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€303.51 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€89.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€148.86 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (€119.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€78.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (€399.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (€79.72 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 V2 FULL MODULAR 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€97.00 @ Galaxus)
Total: €1316.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-16 23:58 CEST+0200

 

AMD:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€349.00 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€162.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (€119.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€78.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (€399.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (€79.72 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 V2 FULL MODULAR 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€97.00 @ Galaxus)
Total: €1325.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-17 00:00 CEST+0200

 

 

• I'd personally choose AMD, especially for gaming.

[Why_Me]

https://geizhals.eu/   <--- check this site for lower prices on PC components. Several of them ship to Croatia including Mindfactory.de, ComputerUniverse.de, Alza, etc ...

 

The 120mm fan goes inside the back of this case for an exhaust fan.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€270.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€148.86 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€127.88 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: *Lexar NM710 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€130.88 @ Galaxus) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (€399.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.61 @ Galaxus) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€98.75 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€4.64 @ Aquatuning) 
Total: €1289.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-17 00:02 CEST+0200

 

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-solid/ 

 

 

[Why_Me]

https://geizhals.eu/amd-ryzen-5-7500f-100-000000597-a2991857.html 

AMD Ryzen 5 7500F €164,81 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: *MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€162.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Memory: *G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€122.90 @ Galaxus) 
Storage: *Lexar NM710 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€130.88 @ Galaxus) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (€399.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.61 @ Galaxus) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€98.75 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€4.64 @ Aquatuning) 
Total: €1027.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-17 00:09 CEST+0200

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

https://geizhals.eu/amd-ryzen-5-7500f-100-000000597-a2991857.html 

AMD Ryzen 5 7500F €164,81 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: *MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€162.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Memory: *G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€122.90 @ Galaxus) 
Storage: *Lexar NM710 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€130.88 @ Galaxus) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (€399.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.61 @ Galaxus) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€98.75 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€4.64 @ Aquatuning) 
Total: €1027.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-17 00:09 CEST+0200

faster AM5 fits in the budget for the CPU, though for 1440p, you could bump up the GPU:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€187.00 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€162.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (€119.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€78.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (€518.95 @ Galaxus)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (€79.70 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€105.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1291.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-17 00:15 CEST+0200

[Ljudevit Gaj]

19 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

https://geizhals.eu/amd-ryzen-5-7500f-100-000000597-a2991857.html 

AMD Ryzen 5 7500F €164,81 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: *MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€162.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Memory: *G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€122.90 @ Galaxus) 
Storage: *Lexar NM710 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€130.88 @ Galaxus) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (€399.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.61 @ Galaxus) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€98.75 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€4.64 @ Aquatuning) 
Total: €1027.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-17 00:09 CEST+0200

I like the case. Never heard of Lexar however, am I the problem here?

[Ljudevit Gaj]

43 minutes ago, podkall said:

faster AM5 fits in the budget for the CPU, though for 1440p, you could bump up the GPU:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€187.00 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€162.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (€119.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€78.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (€518.95 @ Galaxus)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (€79.70 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€105.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1291.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-17 00:15 CEST+0200

Can you please use only the one store, I don't plan to buy every part in a different store. Other than that I don't know what to think about trading cpu for better gpu. I don't have enough experience to tell is that better for future-proofing, but it's true that am5 ryzen 7600 should give me more headroom than lag1700 for upgrading in the future and should not be a bottleneck right now. The rx7800xt is also appreciate, but can you explain that memory?

[BentleyOwen123]

lexar is a huge brand and one to be trusted, dont worry about that haha, ill make a lisst from all newegg is that good?

[BentleyOwen123]

1 minute ago, BentleyOwen123 said:

lexar is a huge brand and one to be trusted, dont worry about that haha, ill make a lisst from all newegg is that good?

or amazon

[BentleyOwen123]

all amazon

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qdk6bL

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($244.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE WHITE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($36.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($127.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($73.09 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  ($379.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower Case  ($84.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: PowerSpec PS 750BSM 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($73.98 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Acer Nitro XV1 XV271U M3bmiiprx 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor  ($199.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1381.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-16 19:37 EDT-0400

[Ljudevit Gaj]

9 hours ago, BentleyOwen123 said:

Monitor: Acer Nitro XV1 XV271U M3bmiiprx 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor  ($199.99 @ Amazon)

Tnx for the monitor recommendation. Looks like a good deal.

[Ljudevit Gaj]

10 hours ago, podkall said:

faster AM5 fits in the budget for the CPU, though for 1440p, you could bump up the GPU:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€187.00 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (€518.95 @ Galaxus)

I got a recommendation for going with a less powerful cpu in favor of the gpu. This should be better for games and the cpu is still fast enough for other tasks, so I think I'll go this route, I can always upgrade the cpu in the future if needed. The only thing I'm not so sure about is should I choose intel or amd. Ryzen 7600 performs similar to i5-12600kf which is also a little cheaper. I know amd tends to support there sockets for longer, but maybe I should go with something that has a clear upgrade path at the time of buying if you know what I mean. Going intel gives me that clear upgrade path to 13th gen when needed, but amd will support am5 socket for longer. What do you think? Which one I'll be happier with and is that cpu-gpu ratio even good?

[BentleyOwen123]

for 1440p its not a bad idea, 7600 would be more expensive, but am5 will likely be supported for at LEAST 3 more generations, as am4 was for 5,  and it will pair very well with a 7800xt for 1440p, so if you have the money to spend, its likely a good investment

[podkall]

15 hours ago, Ljudevit Gaj said:

Can you please use only the one store, I don't plan to buy every part in a different store. Other than that I don't know what to think about trading cpu for better gpu. I don't have enough experience to tell is that better for future-proofing, but it's true that am5 ryzen 7600 should give me more headroom than lag1700 for upgrading in the future and should not be a bottleneck right now. The rx7800xt is also appreciate, but can you explain that memory?

7600 is quite fast enough, and it's futureproof lies in the motherboard it's on, a good B650 motherboard can handle 7800x3D and more, even AM5 CPUs that haven't been released yet most likely,

 

memory? it's CL28 5600Mhz, if you don't like it you can tune it or get CL30 6000Mhz RAM instead,

 

5 hours ago, Ljudevit Gaj said:

I got a recommendation for going with a less powerful cpu in favor of the gpu. This should be better for games and the cpu is still fast enough for other tasks, so I think I'll go this route, I can always upgrade the cpu in the future if needed.

yes, the B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI from MSI for example has some CPU headroom, see that it has 2 8pin power connectors for CPU, and fun fact, current AM5 CPUs could simply run off of 1 8pin power connection

 

5 hours ago, Ljudevit Gaj said:

The only thing I'm not so sure about is should I choose intel or amd. Ryzen 7600 performs similar to i5-12600kf which is also a little cheaper. I know amd tends to support there sockets for longer, but maybe I should go with something that has a clear upgrade path at the time of buying if you know what I mean. Going intel gives me that clear upgrade path to 13th gen when needed, but amd will support am5 socket for longer. What do you think? Which one I'll be happier with and is that cpu-gpu ratio even good?

if you want to keep it simple just go AMD, the 7600 isn't slow,

 

 

[Ljudevit Gaj]

17 hours ago, podkall said:

Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (€119.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)

You're right. There really won't much difference between 5600MHz CL28 and 6000MHz CL30. Especially after some tweaking.

 

1 hour ago, podkall said:

The B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI from MSI for example has some CPU headroom, see that it has 2 8pin power connectors for CPU

 

if you want to keep it simple just go AMD, the 7600 isn't slow,

That's true and with a beefy cooler like the one you suggested I'll probably be able to pull even more performance out of it. The video you provided is realistic and I have to be too. There's no need for 13600k it's pretty much a death platform.

 

This is what I settle on:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fDN6bL

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€211.05 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€175.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (€120.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€77.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (€529.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€77.73 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€105.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1336.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-17 18:09 CEST+0200

 

As you can see, it's almost the same as what you provided, I swaped the gpu ifor the one with a better cooler and changed the case. Everything else should be the same. Not sure if I'll ever need a 850w power supply, but it was only a little more than 10€ expensive than a 750w model from gigabyte, so I might as well just stick with it.

 

Thank you for taking the time to teach me how to optimize my build for the budget and what I need to look for when future-proofing. Before I mark this as complete, can anyone look at this monitor just to confirm it's a good choice. I don't want to use an old, partially repaired 2009 iMac as my display. Acer Nitro XV1 XV271U M3bmiiprx 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor

[podkall]

16 minutes ago, Ljudevit Gaj said:

That's true and with a beefy cooler like the one you suggested I'll probably be able to pull even more performance out of it. The video you provided is realistic and I have to be too. There's no need for 13600k it's pretty much a death platform.

it's good that you understand that, while the 13600k isn't slow, it most certainly can be caught in some of the performance, or get relatively close with 7600, which already sounds like something that's at the end of the line,

 

18 minutes ago, Ljudevit Gaj said:

As you can see, it's almost the same as what you provided, I swaped the gpu ifor the one with a better cooler and changed the case.

that's fine, just know that the 2fan card can be as decent as a 3 fan can, this is one of the reviews from the 2fan card:

 

the case is nice, it should come with 2 front-mounted fans, it's also quite spacious,

 

21 minutes ago, Ljudevit Gaj said:

Not sure if I'll ever need a 850w power supply, but it was only a little more than 10€ expensive than a 750w model from gigabyte, so I might as well just stick with it

it's nice to have some headroom and not force your PSU to run at maximum potential, A-BN should be B-tier since it's got all the PCIE5 shenanigans maybe, also headroom means the PSU fan won't ramp as high as it would if it was fully utilized

 

 

[podkall]

28 minutes ago, Ljudevit Gaj said:

can anyone look at this monitor just to confirm it's a good choice. I don't want to use an old, partially repaired 2009 iMac as my display. Acer Nitro XV1 XV271U M3bmiiprx 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor

I'm not expert for monitors, but it doesn't sound bad,

 

@filpo @brob anyone got info on this, spec wise/experience wise?

[filpo]

6 minutes ago, podkall said:

I'm not expert for monitors, but it doesn't sound bad,

 

@filpo @brob anyone got info on this, spec wise/experience wise?

 

48 minutes ago, Ljudevit Gaj said:

can anyone look at this monitor just to confirm it's a good choice. I don't want to use an old, partially repaired 2009 iMac as my display. Acer Nitro XV1 XV271U M3bmiiprx 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor

Speakers seem to be sub par, but at least it has them

I heard some complaints about dead pixels after a few months. But that was like 40 out of 1200 and that can happen with everyone. Though it is something to note

 

I recognized you're looking at us pcpartpicker but you're in europe. Use german pcpp and here's some alternatives

Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor (VG27AQ1A) - PCPartPicker

for a smaller screen - AOC Q24G2A/BK 23.8" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor (Q24G2A/BK) - PCPartPicker

Gigabyte G27Q 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor (G27Q) - PCPartPicker

[Tan3l6]

9 minutes ago, filpo said:

Speakers seem to be sub par, but at least it has them

Is there really any point of monitor speakers? I'm actually interested.  

9 minutes ago, filpo said:

for a smaller screen - AOC Q24G2A/BK 23.8" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor (Q24G2A/BK) - PCPartPicker

 yeah that seems good for 24"

[podkall]

24 minutes ago, filpo said:

Speakers seem to be sub par, but at least it has them

I heard some complaints about dead pixels after a few months. But that was like 40 out of 1200 and that can happen with everyone. Though it is something to note

the 4 pcpartpicker reviews mention the dead pixels and speakers, but I wouldn't worry about monitor speakers, I could go out on a street and spend days looking for someone who uses those

[filpo]

35 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Is there really any point of monitor speakers? I'm actually interested.

honestly they wouldn't be for most people but I think I'm the only person who'd actually use them. For some reason, a headset just gives me annoyance and earbuds without silicone ear tips hurt my ears after 20 mins (and my earbuds with ear tips are bluetooth which are quite bad with my pc at least since it's 4.2) 

 

That's why I took it into account since I would personally use it (which is why I really want to replace my old samsung monitor, but also that the smearing on it is atrocious)

16 minutes ago, podkall said:

but I wouldn't worry about monitor speakers

as stated above by me, it was mostly in my opinion, and people do use them, but I do understand that they're not that valuable to other people as they are to me

 

16 minutes ago, podkall said:

the 4 pcpartpicker reviews mention the dead pixels and speakers, but I wouldn't worry about monitor speakers, I could go out on a street and spend days looking for someone who uses those

I mostly gave alternatives since I couldn't find the acer on german pcpp, doesn't mean it's not there for germany tho. I didn't look that hard

[podkall]

50 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Is there really any point of monitor speakers? I'm actually interested.  

to appreciate your dedicated speakers/headphones you bought more?

[Tan3l6]

11 minutes ago, podkall said:

to appreciate your dedicated speakers/headphones you bought more?

Or the superior sound to PC speaker? But noted!

I really did not think someone would really be so desperate to listen sounds through monitor speakers as a 2nd preference, rather 3rd or such.

[podkall]

39 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Or the superior sound to PC speaker? But noted!

I really did not think someone would really be so desperate to listen sounds through monitor speakers as a 2nd preference, rather 3rd or such.

I meant to appreciate the good stuff by comparing it to the crappy monitor speaker