which one of these is best for single tower heatsink cooling?

[LOST TALE]

ARCTIC F12 PWM PST

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B08WH3XV6G/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A1K2SUXU652HJB&psc=1

noctua nf-p12 redux

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07CG2PGY6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1Z5H6ZGWCMTNX&psc=1

Maybe I should purchase nothing and continue to use the fan that came with my h212 evo. It had some rattling 2 months ago but now it's working fine. I'm just worried it might die. Even if it does my cpu can survive in passive cooling and then with a 140mm until I buy a replacement then.
 

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this video shows artcic f12 is better at 35dba than noctua. but noctua claims max 25dba

I also ordered this but it made some weird noise once and then failed overnight so I returned it. maybe I should order another?

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0BW733WTN?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dZ-ZqsTAjw&t=375s&pp=ygU5Tm9jdHVhIE5GLVAxMiByZWR1eCByZXZpZXcgdnMgYXJ0Y2ljIGYxMiBwc3QgaGVhdHNpbmsgZmFu

[PDifolco]

12 minutes ago, LOST TALE said:

ARCTIC F12 PWM PST

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B08WH3XV6G/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A1K2SUXU652HJB&psc=1

noctua nf-p12 redux

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07CG2PGY6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1Z5H6ZGWCMTNX&psc=1

Maybe I should purchase nothing and continue to use the fan that came with my h212 evo. It had some rattling 2 months ago but now it's working fine. I'm just worried it might die. Even if it does my cpu can survive in passive cooling and then with a 140mm until I buy a replacement then.
 

comments:

this video shows artcic f12 is better at 35dba than noctua. but noctua claims max 25dba

I also ordered this but it made some weird noise once and then failed overnight so I returned it. maybe I should order another?

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0BW733WTN?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dZ-ZqsTAjw&t=375s&pp=ygU5Tm9jdHVhIE5GLVAxMiByZWR1eCByZXZpZXcgdnMgYXJ0Y2ljIGYxMiBwc3QgaGVhdHNpbmsgZmFu

Rather get an Arctic P12 they're pressure optimized so better for heatsinks

Can try P12 max (super fast) but theiy're noisy

Best of the best are Phanteks T30, then BQ SW Pro4, both expensive

Noctuas are good and quiet  usually, weird yours made noises

[leclod]

Similar to @PDifolco I'd get that https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/HGGnTW/arctic-p12-563-cfm-120-mm-fan-acfan00118a

Seems they can be had at $7.99

 

It's a DC fan but just set the motherboard header to DC in the Bios and there's no difference

 

[LOST TALE]

5 minutes ago, leclod said:

Similar to @PDifolco I'd get that https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/HGGnTW/arctic-p12-563-cfm-120-mm-fan-acfan00118a

Seems they can be had at $7.99

 

It's a DC fan but just set the motherboard header to DC in the Bios and there's no difference

 

Yeah I have a lot of experience with voltage control. I always found the idea of applying force intermittently sus. I guess the high frequency of pwm pulses doesn't matter.
I had them for 14$ on amazon because they were out of stock on the first merchant.
I also noticed this version had higher rpm than the pst version.

[LOST TALE]

15 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Rather get an Arctic P12 they're pressure optimized so better for heatsinks

Can try P12 max (super fast) but theiy're noisy

Best of the best are Phanteks T30, then BQ SW Pro4, both expensive

Noctuas are good and quiet  usually, weird yours made noises

the one that made weird noise and stopped running overnight was this one:

Thermalright TL-C12CW

btw, My ryzen 2600 stabilized at 95C while mining at 88% usage with the fan not spinning. Very impressive.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0BW733WTN?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

maybe it was a bad unit. but that also icnreases the risk I get a good enough but defective unit that will fail later but sooner.

[leclod]

10 minutes ago, LOST TALE said:

I also noticed this version had higher rpm than the pst version.

The P12 and the F12 are very different (check the number of blades for example)

A P12 at 1800rpm is similar to an F12 at 1400rpm

Edited March 15 by leclod

[LOST TALE]

6 minutes ago, leclod said:

The P12 and the F12 are very different (check the number of blades for example)

A P12 at 1800rpm is similar to an F12 at 1400rpm

so which one is better for heatsink cooling?

[PDifolco]

22 minutes ago, LOST TALE said:

the one that made weird noise and stopped running overnight was this one:

Thermalright TL-C12CW

btw, My ryzen 2600 stabilized at 95C while mining at 88% usage with the fan not spinning. Very impressive.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0BW733WTN?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

maybe it was a bad unit. but that also icnreases the risk I get a good enough but defective unit that will fail later but sooner.

There's the ones from the TR PA 120 (RGB) I use them as case fans, they're nice !

16 minutes ago, leclod said:

The P12 and the F12 are very different (check the number of blades for example)

A P12 at 1800rpm is similar to an F12 at 1400rpm

You mean CFM wise ? Not really a good measure of effect on a heatsink afaik, static pressure is more important and P12 has 2.2 mm H2O to F12 1mm ...

 

[leclod]

8 minutes ago, LOST TALE said:

so which one is better for heatsink cooling?

P is for pressure, better suited for heatsinks.

(I personally doubt it makes a difference)

I have a P12 on my cpu cooler

[leclod]

Just now, PDifolco said:

You mean CFM wise ? Not really a good measure of effect on a heatsink afaik, static pressure is more important and P12 has 2.2 mm H2O to F12 1mm ...

I meant everything, CFM, noise, overall performance.

I doubt the whole pressure/airflow discussion.

I doubt there's a difference between an F12 and a P12 on an heatsink at same noise level.

But I don't want to start a discussion.

[LOST TALE]

4 minutes ago, leclod said:

P is for pressure, better suited for heatsinks.

(I personally doubt it makes a difference)

I have a P12 on my cpu cooler

yes so I think the TR fan had higher static pressure and more blades but the cpu temp was higher at very roughly the same rpm/noise/ which brings me to think that a flow optimized fan might do better with my heatsink.

[PDifolco]

14 minutes ago, LOST TALE said:

yes so I think the TR fan had higher static pressure and more blades but the cpu temp was higher at very roughly the same rpm/noise/ which brings me to think that a flow optimized fan might do better with my heatsink.

The TR has less max static pressure according to specs (1.5H2O) maybe cause it' s slower

But if you don't want fans spinning at 1800 RPM (they're loud) its' as good as a P12, and cheap too

https://www.thermalright.com/product/tl-c12cw-s/

 

[leclod]

10 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

But if you don't want fans spinning at 1800 RPM (they're loud) 

No, they are not. At least not louder than F12s at 1400rpm

[RevGAM]

Pressure IS important to get through barriers and around turns. The density of the barrier, as well as thickness, plays an important role, and I wish I was good at math so I could figure out the relationship between the barrier density and a fan's specs.