Need feedback for a build that will be inside a desk cabinet

[MigasTigas]

Budget (including currency): 650€

Country: Portugal

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Some AAA games (Shadow of the Tomb Raider), light photo and video editing, deskwork in general

Other details: No peripherals needed as it's an upgrade from another build. No storage also needed because I will repurpose the disk from the dead laptop (recently upgraded from hdd to ssd)

 

Hey everyone, I need some feedback for a build that will be serving as a base for future upgrades. My laptop had fried and I've decided it was cheaper to build a desktop instead of spending the double of the money on a new laptop. 

I've created this build and I wanted your opinion about it in terms of component compatibility and if the cooling solution will be enough to the PC be inside a desk cabinet with poor ventilation. My concerns is that the stock cooler won't withstand that poor ventilation so I would appreciate more feedback about the cooling solutions!

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€97.90 @ Globaldata) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX AG400 ARGB 75.89 CFM CPU Cooler  (€29.33 @ PCBox) 
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1 g Thermal Paste  (€8.90 @ Globaldata) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€89.45 @ PC Componentes) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€42.90 @ Globaldata) 
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X OC GeForce RTX 3050 6GB 6 GB Video Card  (€207.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€50.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte P550B 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€53.80 @ Switch Technology) 
Total: €581.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-04 21:15 WET+0000

 

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, MigasTigas said:

I've created this build and I wanted your opinion about it in terms of component compatibility and if the cooling solution will be enough to the PC be inside a desk cabinet with poor ventilation.

it'll all be enough but you can get a better deal

5600 + 6600 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€132.90 @ Switch Technology) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€91.48 @ PC Componentes) 
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€69.90 @ Globaldata) 
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  (€203.21 @ PC Componentes) 
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  (€203.21 @ PC Componentes) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€46.80 @ Switch Technology) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€58.90 @ Globaldata) 
Total: €806.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-04 21:25 WET+0000

 

or a 5500 + 6650 xt

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€97.90 @ Globaldata) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€91.48 @ PC Componentes) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€39.90 @ Globaldata) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Video Card  (€254.12 @ PC Componentes) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€46.80 @ Switch Technology) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€58.90 @ Globaldata) 
Total: €589.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-04 21:23 WET+0000

 

if you can stretch the budget you can get a 6650 xt + 5600

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€132.90 @ Switch Technology) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€91.48 @ PC Componentes) 
Memory: *TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€39.90 @ Globaldata) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Video Card  (€254.12 @ PC Componentes) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€46.80 @ Switch Technology) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€58.90 @ Globaldata) 
Total: €624.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-04 21:24 WET+0000

[brob]

13 minutes ago, MigasTigas said:

My concerns is that the stock cooler won't withstand that poor ventilation so I would appreciate more feedback about the cooling solutions!

 

Doesn't matter the CPU cooler used if the case is in an enclosed cabinet with poor ventilation.

[FunkyBushMonkey]

I would be cautious getting a 5500 unless the motherboard has bios flashback. Check the bios version of the motherboard you are going to get and ensure compatibility. This chip was released later in the CPU cycle. Hopefully the board manufacturers updated their stuff. 

[MigasTigas]

53 minutes ago, filpo said:

it'll all be enough but you can get a better deal

5600 + 6600 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€132.90 @ Switch Technology) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€91.48 @ PC Componentes) 
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€69.90 @ Globaldata) 
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  (€203.21 @ PC Componentes) 
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  (€203.21 @ PC Componentes) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€46.80 @ Switch Technology) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€58.90 @ Globaldata) 
Total: €806.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-04 21:25 WET+0000

 

or a 5500 + 6650 xt

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€97.90 @ Globaldata) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€91.48 @ PC Componentes) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€39.90 @ Globaldata) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Video Card  (€254.12 @ PC Componentes) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€46.80 @ Switch Technology) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€58.90 @ Globaldata) 
Total: €589.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-04 21:23 WET+0000

 

if you can stretch the budget you can get a 6650 xt + 5600

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€132.90 @ Switch Technology) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€91.48 @ PC Componentes) 
Memory: *TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€39.90 @ Globaldata) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Video Card  (€254.12 @ PC Componentes) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€46.80 @ Switch Technology) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€58.90 @ Globaldata) 
Total: €624.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-04 21:24 WET+0000

Those are nice combos thank you! I have only 2 questions:

In your opinion does it make a difference to switch from R5 5500 to R5 5600? I saw on UserBenchmark that the performance difference is only 8% and the specs are almost identical.

 

As for the GPU the RX 6650XT is indeed a better choice! I have just one question. Will I feel any change in terms of rendering or gaming? I've only used NVIDIA GPUs till today and I don't know how the AMD GPUs are nowadays.

[MigasTigas]

53 minutes ago, brob said:

 

Doesn't matter the CPU cooler used if the case is in an enclosed cabinet with poor ventilation.

Ok so what is the best way to cool it? An AIO would perform better in this case?

[MigasTigas]

55 minutes ago, FunkyBushMonkey said:

I would be cautious getting a 5500 unless the motherboard has bios flashback. Check the bios version of the motherboard you are going to get and ensure compatibility. This chip was released later in the CPU cycle. Hopefully the board manufacturers updated their stuff. 

I've check the CPU support list of the motherboard and it supports the 5500 without the BIOS flashback so I don't think it will be a problem, PCPartPicker would also alert if BIOs checks would be needed if i recall correctly

[FunkyBushMonkey]

2 minutes ago, MigasTigas said:

I've check the CPU support list of the motherboard and it supports the 5500 without the BIOS flashback so I don't think it will be a problem, PCPartPicker would also alert if BIOs checks would be needed if i recall correctly

I understand I just wanted you to be cautious as sometimes pcpartpicter will show a caution or be unaware. 

 

For aio vs air cooling really the best option is to vent the hot air created away and bring the freshest air in. However you do this could be case orientation or fan configuration

[MigasTigas]

3 minutes ago, FunkyBushMonkey said:

I understand I just wanted you to be cautious as sometimes pcpartpicter will show a caution or be unaware. 

Thank you for advising me to search for that because I actually forgot to do that beforehand!

 

5 minutes ago, FunkyBushMonkey said:

For aio vs air cooling really the best option is to vent the hot air created away and bring the freshest air in. However you do this could be case orientation or fan configuration

Ok so I will investigate a bit further how can I improve airflow in and out of the case, probably I will drill some holes in the cabinet to make it happen!

[FunkyBushMonkey]

37 minutes ago, MigasTigas said:

Those are nice combos thank you! I have only 2 questions:

In your opinion does it make a difference to switch from R5 5500 to R5 5600? I saw on UserBenchmark that the performance difference is only 8% and the specs are almost identical.

 

As for the GPU the RX 6650XT is indeed a better choice! I have just one question. Will I feel any change in terms of rendering or gaming? I've only used NVIDIA GPUs till today and I don't know how the AMD GPUs are nowadays.

Note to be cautious about UserBenchmark as their numbers don't show a complete picture. User reviews on YouTube would be more accurate. 

 

AMD gpus are good(in my experience). I swapped from a 1060 to 2080ti to 6900XT to 6900XTXH. I prefer their user interfaces. For rendering and gaming I didn't notice anything... It can sometimes be game specific as games seem to favor certain ones. 

[FunkyBushMonkey]

6 minutes ago, MigasTigas said:

Thank you for advising me to search for that because I actually forgot to do that beforehand!

 

Ok so I will investigate a bit further how can I improve airflow in and out of the case, probably I will drill some holes in the cabinet to make it happen!

Yeah Linus made some holes to attach fans for intake and exhaust. It's a great idea. 

 

I made my HTPC and drilled a hole in the back of the cabinet to try to get an air escape but it still gets really hot. The case doesn't have the best airflow and because of the size of the case it has to go a certain direction

 

*I took off side panel and cpu cooler cover because of glare and reflection

[MigasTigas]

17 minutes ago, FunkyBushMonkey said:

Note to be cautious about UserBenchmark as their numbers don't show a complete picture. User reviews on YouTube would be more accurate. 

 

AMD gpus are good(in my experience). I swapped from a 1060 to 2080ti to 6900XT to 6900XTXH. I prefer their user interfaces. For rendering and gaming I didn't notice anything... It can sometimes be game specific as games seem to favor certain ones. 

Ok I will look into that then! As for GPUs too!

[MigasTigas]

11 minutes ago, FunkyBushMonkey said:

I made my HTPC and drilled a hole in the back of the cabinet to try to get an air escape but it still gets really hot. The case doesn't have the best airflow and because of the size of the case it has to go a certain direction

Yeah that was my concern, I will have to dig around to see the best configuration to have the best airflow possible

[brob]

2 hours ago, MigasTigas said:

Ok so what is the best way to cool it? An AIO would perform better in this case?

 

No. What I'm trying to say is that if airflow is restricted it doesn't matter how good the CPU cooler is. What you need to do is improve the airflow through the cabinet or move the case to a less restricted location.

 

[filpo]

9 hours ago, MigasTigas said:

I have just one question. Will I feel any change in terms of rendering or gaming?

Rendering may be quite a bit worse. Gaming should be better but look for used 3060 12gb’s on the market for rendering

 

9 hours ago, MigasTigas said:

In your opinion does it make a difference to switch from R5 5500 to R5 5600? I saw on UserBenchmark that the performance difference is only 8% and the specs are almost identica

Please don’t use userbenchmark. It’s a horrible tool 

 

the difference between them is that the 5600 has more cache (which is more useful for gaming), it’s got pcie 4 (not a huge deal but still good) and it boosts to 4.4ghz instead of 4.2. You should be fine with the 5500. I’ve got a 5600 with a 3060 and there’s no bottleneck so you should be fine with the 5500, just know you lose quite a bit of cache (16mb of it which is a lot in cache world)

[MigasTigas]

9 hours ago, brob said:

 

No. What I'm trying to say is that if airflow is restricted it doesn't matter how good the CPU cooler is. What you need to do is improve the airflow through the cabinet or move the case to a less restricted location.

 

Ah got it! I will try to make a vent on the cabinet to improve the flow, thank you!