New build in progress

[PatRed]

So, ive been starting to get back into PC's and recently i have been noticing that my current pc is starting to fall back. Im pretty sure my new build is pretty good already but im open for suggestions on cutting back the price, getting better performance for the money, anything. Budget 1500 euros (dont worry if ur suggestions go to like 1550-1600 the prices will probably be lower in my country).

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FFNhTY

 

[Tetras]

Whenever I see a build with a 7600X and a semi-expensive cooler I always think "get a 7700 non-X and use the bundled wraith prism instead", but that's just me.

 

The NV2 only has a 3 year warranty and the endurance ratings are not great, so for an OS drive I'd be looking at a P5 Plus, SN850X, 980 Pro, or something along those lines.

[PatRed]

Would this be any better?? Maybe i could drop the psu wattage to 750 ro get closer to the 1500 budget.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DDGTDZ

[Dedayog]

13 minutes ago, PatRed said:

Would this be any better?? Maybe i could drop the psu wattage to 750 ro get closer to the 1500 budget.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/PatLTT/saved/Cg6Dzy

This list is private.

 

 

[PatRed]

i made it public now, sorry

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DDGTDZ

 

[Dedayog]

6 minutes ago, PatRed said:

i made it public now, sorry

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DDGTDZ

 

Okay, where are you getting the prices?  7700 isn't $219 anywhere.

 

Also, you don't need a Pro level drive.  That's too much for 1TB.

 

 

[PatRed]

I get my components from a website in my country and its the tray version plus i can get it without taxes so its 219 for me. And could u recommend a good drive?

[Dedayog]

11 minutes ago, PatRed said:

I get my components from a website in my country and its the tray version plus i can get it without taxes so its 219 for me. And could u recommend a good drive?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2x4Ycf/teamgroup-mp44l-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpk001t0c101

 

Teamgroup makes a decent drive for a good price.

[PatRed]

Also could i change my psu's wattage to 750 to cut down on the price or should i keep it 850w??

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yLJ3BL

[PatRed]

New pc in planning, i basically have eveything ready but im not sure if i should use a 850w psu or 750w.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yLJ3BL 

 

[podkall]

Recommended PSU for 7900 XT is 700W,

 

since your build is high end, it is recommended to choose a high quality PSU.

 

Both 750W and 850W are gonna run just fine in your build.

[SorryBella]

7 hours ago, podkall said:

choose a high quality PSU

And dont confuse the A850GL with the far better built A850G. Anecdotally theres a lot of them that died in a ripple heavy country like in the LATAM states, for what it is your usual game of PSU Tier List by Cultist Network is your rule of thumb.

 

Anything at B tier or above is a go. C tier is something you wanna eye along with credible reviews and see if the downside is worth the savings.

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[Tetras]

17 hours ago, PatRed said:

Also could i change my psu's wattage to 750 to cut down on the price or should i keep it 850w??

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yLJ3BL

It would probably still work, but I wouldn't, because some headroom is helpful for a PSU that you might keep for 10+ years.

[PatRed]

recently ive been thinking of making a new build and i have been cooking something up. Ive made a couple posts and ive used alot of other peoples tips so im thinking this the final product. If theres anything i can improve please let me know!

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m9KwpB

 

[tkitch]

damned solid list, should work out pretty well for you! 

[filpo]

11 minutes ago, PatRed said:

recently ive been thinking of making a new build and i have been cooking something up. Ive made a couple posts and ive used alot of other peoples tips so im thinking this the final product. If theres anything i can improve please let me know!

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m9KwpB

 

get a 7800X3D

if you're ok with 1tb of storage you can get this build to around what your budget is

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($385.87 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *Gigabyte B650M DS3H Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($95.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($699.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: *MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: *Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1595.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-02-09 16:22 EST-0500

Edited February 9 by filpo
Edited the SSD

[SpookyCitrus]

3 minutes ago, filpo said:

get a 7800X3D

if you're ok with 1tb of storage you can get this build to around what your budget is

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($385.87 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *Gigabyte B650M DS3H Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($95.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Silicon Power UD85 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($103.97 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($699.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: *MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: *Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1594.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-02-09 16:13 EST-0500

I'd like to ask again, as you didn't respond to my last reply to you regarding this but, could you consider not recommending Silicon Power to people? At least do your own research into it. I just hate seeing such a manufacturer recommended when there are better, higher quality components for cheaper available. I've just ran into so many issues with their stuff in my shop, I don't want people being recommended something subpar that will cause issues later on.

[filpo]

1 minute ago, SpookyCitrus said:

I'd like to ask again, as you didn't respond to my last reply to you regarding this but, could you consider not recommending Silicon Power to people? At least do your own research into it. I just hate seeing such a manufacturer recommended when there are better, higher quality components for cheaper available. I've just ran into so many issues with their stuff in my shop, I don't want people being recommended something subpar that will cause issues later on.

Sorry, forgot to change the parametric selection

[SpookyCitrus]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

Sorry, forgot to change the parametric selection

No worries at all, lol. Just wanted to see if you looked into it or thought about it at all. Thanks for taking the time to check into it. 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

13 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

I'd like to ask again, as you didn't respond to my last reply to you regarding this but, could you consider not recommending Silicon Power to people? At least do your own research into it. I just hate seeing such a manufacturer recommended when there are better, higher quality components for cheaper available. I've just ran into so many issues with their stuff in my shop, I don't want people being recommended something subpar that will cause issues later on.

I can understand if its ssds cause pcb is probs in house and that could cause issues even if the components themselves arent in house but ram is just ram, pcb is probs not even made by them anyways, just the same old hynix m/a die that every other manufacturer uses for that speed bin

 

What products have you seen issues with btw?

 

 

27 minutes ago, PatRed said:

recently ive been thinking of making a new build and i have been cooking something up. Ive made a couple posts and ive used alot of other peoples tips so im thinking this the final product. If theres anything i can improve please let me know!

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m9KwpB

Bro is cooking pretty decently but improvements can still be made

 

If that 7700 is actually 320$ get a 7800x3d or 7900(x) instead, but 220$ and its a steal unless those other cpus are similarly priced

 

Mp44l just a crappy dramless gen4 so get a dram gen 3 like the addlink s70 though 1tb is pretty meh value and 2tb is where its at since theres the mushkin tempest at 103$ (dram gen3) and the kingspec xg7000 at 118$ (dram top end gen4)

 

You can cut down cooler cost with a phantom spirit 120 (non se) which is 38$ or the frost tower 120 at 31$, should perform pretty similarly and doesnt really matter on a 7800x3d anyways as it cant really dissipate its heat due to the rubbish ihs and insulating cache

 

Board is pretty mid, b650 livemixer is a better board with 21 total usb a ports (13 rear 8 internal) + 2 usbc (1 rear 1 internal) compared to the 13 usba (7 + 6) and 1 usbc (rear) of the gaming x ax and its 150$. You can add wifi using the m.2 e key slot marked m.2 wifi

 

Get a thicker 7900xt cause that xfx merc card is only 2 slots thick so the cooling will be pretty meh compared to something like the hellhound which is a 3 slot card that has a much beefier heatsink, not like those lower pcie slots are good for anything anyways so might aswell use them for gpu cooling

 

Case is personal preference but the neo air is half the price at 40$

 

Psu is warrantyless (<10 years) so get a gf a3 850w which is either 90 or 95$ and that comes with a 10 year warranty whilst being cheaper

[SpookyCitrus]

1 hour ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

I can understand if its ssds cause pcb is probs in house and that could cause issues even if the components themselves arent in house but ram is just ram, pcb is probs not even made by them anyways, just the same old hynix m/a die that every other manufacturer uses for that speed bin

 

What products have you seen issues with btw?

I was a little more clear in a previous reply to filpo on a different topic. It's the SSDs mainly. I have rarely seen their ram but I see their SSDs all of the time. I'll go into a little more detail with my experience as well. The shop I run, before I took over used to use Silicon Power Sata SSDs for clients that didn't want to spend an arm and a leg on Samsungs or Crucials. So it was a cheap alternative that we offered. When I took over running the repair shop, since we had had issues prior with another model from SP as well I had stopped stocking them. About a year after I took over we started getting them all back in for failed drives. 90% of the over 150 Sata SSDs of that model came back in within 3 years due to failure. So I swore SP off all together as that kind of put the nail in the coffin. That turned me off pretty heavily, also people that come in with builds they did themselvs and builds from other shops that still use SP come in fairly often, a lot of Sata SSDs, and more than I'd like to see of their newer Nvmes. I've had maybe 3 or 4 computers come in with failed SP Ram in the last 7 years which is on par with other manufacturers so I tolerate their ram a little more. But the amount of failure I've seen with their storage drives is beyond rediculous. 

[IkeaGnome]

10 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Psu is warrantyless (<10 years

Since when is saying a psu with a 10 year warranty warrantyless while suggesting a psu with a 10 year warranty sensible?

 

13 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

only 2 slots thick so the cooling will be pretty meh

Cute. It doesn't have temp issues even when overclocked.

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17 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

b650 livemixer is a better board with 21 total usb a ports (13 rear 8 internal) + 2 usbc (1 rear 1 internal) compared to the 13 usba (7 + 6) and 1 usbc (rear) of the gaming x ax and its 150$. You can add wifi using the m.2 e key slot marked m.2 wifi

That's also a very aesthetically polarizing board. Trying to save $15 but then suggesting adding a m.2 card which will cost more than the savings is a bit weird. Your USB count is wrong also unless you also add more dongles to the build. You also missed the internal USB C on the gigabyte board. 

27 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Mp44l just a crappy dramless gen4 so get a dram gen 3 like the addlink s70 though 1tb is pretty meh value and 2tb is where its at since theres the mushkin tempest at 103$ (dram gen3) and the kingspec xg7000 at 118$ (dram top end gen4)

And for games and gaming dramless has virtually no impact. 

1 hour ago, PatRed said:

recently ive been thinking of making a new build and i have been cooking something up. Ive made a couple posts and ive used alot of other peoples tips so im thinking this the final product. If theres anything i can improve please let me know!

Do you live near a MicroCenter? If you do, you can save roughly $80 by buying one of their bundles.

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X, MSI B650-P Pro WiFi, G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB DDR5-6000 Kit, Computer Build Bundle - Micro Center

If you spent $11 more than the CPU motherboard ram combo you have in your PCPP list you can have a much better cpu.

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX v2, G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB DDR5-6000 Kit, Computer Build Bundle - Micro Center

[Somerandomtechyboi]

26 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

I was a little more clear in a previous reply to filpo on a different topic. It's the SSDs mainly. I have rarely seen their ram but I see their SSDs all of the time. I'll go into a little more detail with my experience as well. The shop I run, before I took over used to use Silicon Power Sata SSDs for clients that didn't want to spend an arm and a leg on Samsungs or Crucials. So it was a cheap alternative that we offered. When I took over running the repair shop, since we had had issues prior with another model from SP as well I had stopped stocking them. About a year after I took over we started getting them all back in for failed drives. 90% of the over 150 Sata SSDs of that model came back in within 3 years due to failure. So we stopped using them. But that kind of put the nail in the coffin. That turned me off pretty heavily, also client builds and builds from other shops that still use SP come in fairly often, a lot of Sata SSDs, and more than I'd like to see of their newer Nvmes. I've had maybe 3 or 4 computers come in with failed SP Ram in the last 7 years which is on par with other manufacturers I see. But the amount of failure I've seen with their storage drives is beyond rediculous. 

Makes sense

Rams are fine but storage is iffy

 

26 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Since when is saying a psu with a 10 year warranty warrantyless while suggesting a psu with a 10 year warranty sensible?

Oh it is a 10 year warranty unit

Guess i was confusing it with the a850gl warranty wise cause that unit is actually warrantyless (5 years)

 

yea ill just recant my statement of the a850g being warrantyless cause it is definitely not warrantyless, but the gf a3 still remains cheaper, and at 107$ might aswell spend the extra 23$ for a 1050w gf a3 so you can really make sure that you wont need to replace it assuming you dont go hedt or try dual gpus

 

28 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Cute. It doesn't have temp issues even when overclocked.

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60c for a 2 slot is not bad at all, guess i was heavily underestimating the 2 slot cards, though id still choose the thicker ones anyways if the lower pcie slots arent being used since the fans can probs be turned down abit more, you arent really losing anything by getting a triple slot card if its similarly priced and you dont need those lower pcie slots

 

I was expecting more like 70-80c for one of those dual slot cards but yeah i definitely should have checked, id still prefer a triple slot anyways if pricing is similar and the lower pcie slots arent being used

 

34 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

That's also a very aesthetically polarizing board. Trying to save $15 but then suggesting adding a m.2 card which will cost more than the savings is a bit weird. Your USB count is wrong also unless you also add more dongles to the build. You also missed the internal USB C on the gigabyte board. 

still 13 rear usbs vs 7, and the headers should do 2 usb ports aside from the type c one hence 13 + 8 (2 usb3, 2 usb2 headers) and 7 + 6 (1 usb3 2 usb2 headers)

 

And yep i totally missed that internal usbc on the gigabyte board cause it blends in really well

 

If aesthetics are what you desire theres the b650 pg lightning which isnt bad either and arguably better if you want your build to be fully black since the gaming x ax is black + grey, also 9 usb ports on the rear instead of 7

 

I can see 13 usb ports being overkill for most ppl but 7 seems abit lacking for anyone that does use alot of usb devices

[PatRed]

are there any other motherboards that dont look ugly but still have a good amount of ports

 

[filpo]

4 hours ago, PatRed said:

are there any other motherboards that dont look ugly but still have a good amount of ports

 

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