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With the new Nvidia 'Super' cards releasing I have seen a lot of comparisons between the 4070Ti Super and the 7900 XT, however UK pricing has the 7900 XTX within the same price threshold in the opposite direction of the 4070ti Super.

By which I mean the XT is roughly £75 cheaper than the 4070Ti Super, and thus can alternatively be said that the 4070Ti Super is £75 more expensive,

meanwhile the XTX is £75 more expensive than the 4070ti Super, and thus can alternatively be said that the 4070ti Super is £75 cheaper than the XTX.

 

So, what are peoples opinions on the comparison between the 4070ti Super and the XTX ?

Baring in mind the next card from the Nvidia side is a £200+ jump for a 4080/4080S, which itself trades blows with the significantly cheaper XTX in traditional rasterized games.

 

 

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23 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

With the new Nvidia 'Super' cards releasing I have seen a lot of comparisons between the 4070Ti Super and the 7900 XT, however UK pricing has the 7900 XTX within the same price threshold in the opposite direction of the 4070ti Super.

By which I mean the XT is roughly £75 cheaper than the 4070Ti Super, and thus can alternatively be said that the 4070Ti Super is £75 more expensive,

meanwhile the XTX is £75 more expensive than the 4070ti Super, and thus can alternatively be said that the 4070ti Super is £75 cheaper than the XTX.

 

So, what are peoples opinions on the comparison between the 4070ti Super and the XTX ?

Baring in mind the next card from the Nvidia side is a £200+ jump for a 4080/4080S, which itself trades blows with the significantly cheaper XTX in traditional rasterized games.

The prices I can see are:

£705 for a 7900XT

£770 for a 4070 Ti Super

£855 for a 7900XTX

£960 for a 4080 Super

 

In traditional gaming (no RT and no AI) the releative performance is something like:

7900XT: 100%

4070 Ti Super: 92%

7900XTX: 112%

4080 Super: 123%

 

But with ray tracing it is more like:

7900XT: 100%

4070 Ti Super: 131%

7900XTX: 118%

4080 Super: 159%

 

The Nvidia cards also get DLSS (which is slightly better than FSR), CUDA and NVENC (they are only useful to some people but worth mentioning). However the AMD cards do offer more performance.

 

As for which is the best value, well that really depends on what you want to play? what res you want to play at? whether you care about ray tracing of the other features? For their own use cases they all seem to be priced competitively (compared to each other at least, all new GPU prices are stupidly high)

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4070 Ti Super are actually defective 4080 (AD103) that are heavily power limited to not get close to 4080 performance. The 3 other variants of 4070 are using AD104.

 

Yes, Nvidia did try to sell AD104 (their 3rd most powerful chip) as the 4080 when the series first came out.

 

If you can get a model that has good power limit headroom (10% or more) but still not close to the price of the XTX, then get that and OC as high as you can to reverse it to a 4080.

 

Power limit headroom is the power limit slider in Afterburner that you can raise past 100%. This limit is set by the card manufacturer in the VBIOS. How to identify which model has good power limit headroom? Thats your homework to do.

 

Otherwise, might as well spend £75 more to get the red version of a 4080

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Just to clarify, i'm not looking to purchase a card, i'm just curious what peoples thoughts are on the comparison.

 

I also agree with the statement about new GPU prices being to high.
 

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Even if we include the crazy high inflation of the last 2 years, the top end card (historically like the 1080ti, or 780ti etc) should be in the region of £850.

If we take out the abnormally high inflation of the last years, then the price is about £760.

 

Now even if you consider the 4090 an outlier due to its performance vs everything else, and ignore its price tag as well, ur still looking at the 4080S at £1000, at best that £150 to expensive. While the XTX does hit that mark , barely, it does as you mention lose out on the extra feature set the Nvidia cards enjoy.

And thats just talking about the top end cards, the price hikes affect all tiers of cards unfortunately.

A 4070/Ti/S class card should be between £450 and £540 depending on the last 2 years of inflation, not £600-£800 (S/Ti/Ti S)

 

But i digress, back to the XTX vs 4070Ti S comparison 😛

 

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