DDR5 Ram computability with multiple kits.

[Darakus]

Hello, I'm currently about to build a new PC and I'm a bit confused about DDR5. {Ryzen 7800x3d}

My reason here is purely aesthetic, but I don't want to see only two ram slots filled if possible. In the country where I live, I found it hard to find a 4stick ram kit, or even with fake dims. Is it safe to mix two identical kits of ram together, or it it still iffy?
 

[podkall]

25 minutes ago, Darakus said:

Hello, I'm currently about to build a new PC and I'm a bit confused about DDR5. {Ryzen 7800x3d}

My reason here is purely aesthetic, but I don't want to see only two ram slots filled if possible. In the country where I live, I found it hard to find a 4stick ram kit, or even with fake dims. Is it safe to mix two identical kits of ram together, or it it still iffy?
 

ram mixing even within the same brand can still have undesired effects, like not being able to run all 4 and having to return one of the kits back

 

if going fore pure aesthetics, I do think that sometimes having only 2 ram slots filled doesn't always have to look bad or out of place...

[podkall]

Just now, htimsenyawed said:

Perfectly. I’ve never bought a 4 stick kit, usually 2 stick kits because they’re cheaper somehow. 

I mean, yeah the PC won't explode, and there's like 80%+ chance it will work without any issues, but still.. (gotta be prepared if it doesn't)

[Darakus]

1 hour ago, podkall said:

ram mixing even within the same brand can still have undesired effects, like not being able to run all 4 and having to return one of the kits back

 

if going fore pure aesthetics, I do think that sometimes having only 2 ram slots filled doesn't always have to look bad or out of place...

I know, it's purely aesthetic so I can go with two sticks. I'm looking to see if it's possible, as I would prefer to go with four.
Currently, I will keep looking for a four-stick kit, but I will settle on a two sticks if I don't find the four stick kit in a week or two.

[Darakus]

1 hour ago, htimsenyawed said:

Perfectly. I’ve never bought a 4 stick kit, usually 2 stick kits because they’re cheaper somehow. 

I know it work perfectly most of the time with DDR4, but I still didn't see any information about DDR5

[Darakus]

1 hour ago, podkall said:

I mean, yeah the PC won't explode, and there's like 80%+ chance it will work without any issues, but still.. (gotta be prepared if it doesn't)

True, that's the gamble I'm scared off....

[podkall]

3 minutes ago, Darakus said:

I know, it's purely aesthetic so I can go with two sticks. I'm looking to see if it's possible, as I would prefer to go with four.
Currently, I will keep looking for a four-stick kit, but I will settle on a two sticks if I don't find the four stick kit in a week or two.

does your purpose really need that much ram? I mean if you're on a budget you could spare yourself from aesthetics or gauge more budget next time if your aim was aesthetics, that would probably be better

 

but it's your shot and more RAM never hurt anyone (unless you're buying like 128GB just for gaming, then it's simply a waste of cash)

[Milesqqw2]

27 minutes ago, Darakus said:

Hello, I'm currently about to build a new PC and I'm a bit confused about DDR5. {Ryzen 7800x3d}

My reason here is purely aesthetic, but I don't want to see only two ram slots filled if possible. In the country where I live, I found it hard to find a 4stick ram kit, or even with fake dims. Is it safe to mix two identical kits of ram together, or it it still iffy?
 

You can mix two kits of different ram but it is not recommended, but in your case, seeing as you want to mix to kits of the same ram it should be just fine. Only thing is I would recommend getting the same speed of ram for both so it will run as fast as possible. Also I think it is worth mentioning that the ram won’t run in dual channel mode, meaning it won’t be as fast. This might not even be a thing and I just made it up, but I am pretty sure it is.

[Beerzerker]

3 hours ago, Darakus said:

Hello, I'm currently about to build a new PC and I'm a bit confused about DDR5. {Ryzen 7800x3d}

My reason here is purely aesthetic, but I don't want to see only two ram slots filled if possible. In the country where I live, I found it hard to find a 4stick ram kit, or even with fake dims. Is it safe to mix two identical kits of ram together, or it it still iffy?
 

It's fine as long as the kits are of the exact same make model and revision.

Some RAM vendors when they are made will use different IC's in these sticks across the various makes and models of them and that's where most of the trouble comes from, since different IC's normally has different specs to run correctly - Some are compatable enough it's not a problem but others aren't compatable at all.

Makers like G. Skill for example are good about being consistent with what's used within a given model line such as their Trident X or Flare line, those usually are the same if you were to get two sets of either model but it could be using different IC's if the revision/version is different.

Best bet is to get two of the same exact sets right down to the model revision/version if you can.

I'll also caution you about Corsair RAM for two reasons:
For some reason Ryzen and Corsair (Especially the Vengeance line) have a tendency to NOT like each other very well, sometimes leading to all kinds of problems.
There are instances they've been ran and it was fine but with the proven history of it, I woudn't run anything from Corsair with an AMD, but for Intel it's not been a problem.

Corsair also has a proven history of changing what IC's are used in their sticks, even ones of the same exact model AND revision too.
It's like the assembly line has a supply of these IC chips when/where they are made and when they run out, they just grab "Whatever" may be available to keep the assembly line going.

For a Ryzen build, anything aside from Corsair that I'm aware of is fine.

[Darakus]

4 hours ago, podkall said:

but it's your shot and more RAM never hurt anyone (unless you're buying like 128GB just for gaming, then it's simply a waste of cash)

I was honestly searching for a 32g kit{Two sticks and two fake ones} But didn't find it in my country unless I imported it{Too expensive} So I started searching for either 32g{4*8} or 64g{4*16} depending on the price, couldn't find any as well. I might just settle for a 32g{2*16} kit now

[Darakus]

1 hour ago, Beerzerker said:

It's fine as long as the kits are of the exact same make model and revision.

Some RAM vendors when they are made will use different IC's in these sticks across the various makes and models of them and that's where most of the trouble comes from, since different IC's normally has different specs to run correctly - Some are compatable enough it's not a problem but others aren't compatable at all.

Makers like G. Skill for example are good about being consistent with what's used within a given model line such as their Trident X or Flare line, those usually are the same if you were to get two sets of either model but it could be using different IC's if the revision/version is different.

Best bet is to get two of the same exact sets right down to the model revision/version if you can.

I'll also caution you about Corsair RAM for two reasons:
For some reason Ryzen and Corsair (Especially the Vengeance line) have a tendency to NOT like each other very well, sometimes leading to all kinds of problems.
There are instances they've been ran and it was fine but with the proven history of it, I woudn't run anything from Corsair with an AMD, but for Intel it's not been a problem.

Corsair also has a proven history of changing what IC's are used in their sticks, even ones of the same exact model AND revision too.
It's like the assembly line has a supply of these IC chips when/where they are made and when they run out, they just grab "Whatever" may be available to keep the assembly line going.

For a Ryzen build, anything aside from Corsair that I'm aware of is fine

I will keep this in mind, currently, I'm still weighing the options, searching, and trying to find a way to test it{Some local shops have prebuilt it, and I might be able to ask them to test it.}