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Possible Dead drobo

starsmine
By starsmine
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My dad has a NAS Drobo 5N. 
In october when he got home from a road trip he saw two drives dead, or at least two drives showing the yellow led. (this is "fine", its running in duel redundant raid 6) 
at some point last week new drives were put in to rebuild the array, but it never did.

now after a power outage, the drobo is showing all drives as inaccessible. This is a 12-year-old drobo, from my minimal research this seems like a symptom of a dead PSU.

I have been getting on him about building a new system altogether, but thats besides the point now. Priority one is recovering the 10s of terabytes of data on it.

Would a new (used) functioning Drobo 5n be able to read the data

Also some references to solid middle-tier affordable nas builds would be nice. 
Like its crazy to me that a diskless 8 bay NAS from synology costs 1000. 

Edit: im told the lights are now all red....

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12 minutes ago, starsmine said:

Would a new (used) functioning Drobo 5n be able to read the data

Possibly? It's hard to say depending on if the PSU failed cleanly or not, and how badly the array was degraded before PSU failure.

 

13 minutes ago, starsmine said:

now after a power outage, the drobo is showing all drives as inaccessible

If it powers on enough to show unavailable drives, I don't really suspect a PSU issue though...

 

13 minutes ago, starsmine said:

Like its crazy to me that a diskless 8 bay NAS from synology costs 1000

You're paying for a software ecosystem as well as a custom motherboard and chassis. When you price out what it would take to match (including support, etc.), it's not that crazy (especially if you're a business who can't afford to keep "Tim the NAS whisperer" on-staff full-time).

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                      La Vie en Rose (DNS) ═╬═ Narrative  ╠═ Veda-NAS     ╠═ La Vie en Rose (vmbr)
                                Veda (DNS) ─┘             ╠═ Veda (vmbr)  ├─ Ptolemy (vmbr)
╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Ptolemy-NAS  ├─ Veda (Mgmt)
║   ┌ Closet ┐      ┌───────── Bedroom ─────────┐                         └─ Veda (IPMI)
╚═══ Flex XG ══╦╤═══ Flex XG ══╤╦═ Byarlant
       (PoE)   ║│              │╠═ Narrative 
Kitchen Jack ══╣└─ Dual PoE ┐  │╚═ Jesta Cannon*
   (Testing)   ║┌─ Injector ┘  └── Work Laptop
     Bedroom ══╝│        ┌─────── Media Center ────────────────────────────┐
     Jack #2    └──────── Switch 8 ────────────┬─ nanoHD Access Point (PoE)
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─── is Gigabit / ═══ is Multi-Gigabit          ├─ Pioneer VSX-S520
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7 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

You're paying for a software ecosystem as well as a custom motherboard and chassis. When you price out what it would take to match (including support, etc.), it's not that crazy (especially if you're a business who can't afford to keep "Tim the NAS whisperer" on-staff full-time).

My dad and I are both very tech-literate, it's not a business its just digitizing all the family records from... 70 years back as well as backups of all the computers that run in the house. Some extra space to be an off-site back up for us kids as well even if it's only updated rarely as we only stop by anymore for the holidays. But QOL is nice, We both are just very frugal people. 

The solution right now is two Drobo 5Ns (of different generations) but both contain completely different data, both are in raid6 (which cant handle Bitrot, so I have been saying we need to change it out). (amazing solution... 12 years ago). So like I want a set up that can handle 12 drives to transfer it all over and have some easy expandablity. The great thing about drobo is that the drives didnt actually have to match in size so when you swap a drive, you also get to expand the storage(ish)

No cloud solution, though we should. I also question how happy Xfinity will be with us dumping over 10 TBs of upload to make one.

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