Frequent BSOD Issues, concerned that it might be My M.2 SSD that's at fault

[Xiauj]

Hi all,

Ever since I started getting back into Modded Minecraft amongst many other games both old/classic and new/modern; but mainly Modded Minecraft in particular, I keep getting BSODs which:

(1A) Happen at completely random/unexpected times (Note: This can be when I'm launching My Minecraft instance / when I'm on the main menu / when I'm in-game / when I'm in-game but doing something in Chrome or another application...)

(1B) Last for about a split second (on-screen) if that (No joke.., I barely get enough time to read the error code / text on the (blue) screen), it's like the blink of an eye.

 

I have tried doing the following in order to prevent these BSODs:

(2A) Updating and/or Fresh-Installing Java and My Minecraft Launcher of choice (This includes fully redownloading > reinstalling the launcher then reimporting My Minecraft instance which contains the world-save + mods + configs + etc...)

(2B) Checking Windows 10's Event Viewer many many many times..., every time the PC BSODs, it BSODS, then it restarts as normal, then I check the Event Viewer and it says the following (See Attached Image):

(2C) Following on from (2B (Above)), after chatting to someone on a community based Discord server, trying to figure out this error, and after generating some kind of "EventLog.txt" etc.., someone told Me that Event 41 relates to My drive, in this case, My M.2 SSD where Windows 10 / etc.. / etc.. / etc.. is installed/stored. He/She/They then proceeded to tell Me it could be a sign that My M.2 SSD could be dying.... which obviously raises some concern . Furthermore; I checked My M.2 SSD's Health thanks to CrystalDiskInfo (64-Bit) which displayed the following (See Attached Image):

(Ignore the D: Drive btw, that's just a external USB drive which is sitting on My PC, it's not connected to the motherboard as 3.5" or 2.5")

 

(2D) During the one of many BSODs which I've had in the past week (All of which are the same, same error code, etc....), I very luckily managed to phone-record one of the BSODs and find out what the error code was/is, it says the following: WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR. After a quick google search / forum search(s) / etc.., some say it's related to Windows Updates, some say it's Software related, some say it's Hardware related (Some of the posts that I read do not mention which particular piece of hardware(s)).

 

Before I go, I should also note My PC Specs (I've had this for quite some years):

 

 

So...., after having provided as much information as I can that I've gathered so far, can anyone tell Me if they think it's My M.2 SSD that's at fault or that it could possibly be dying or could it be something else entirely?; Hardware? Software?

 

Because honestly guys, I'm at a loss  I really am, lol.

I've been trying to troubleshoot this really annoying + repetitive BSOD for the past 2 weeks.

 

Anyway, thanks for listening to My essay (lol), if anyone could help Me, I'd seriously appreciate it.

-Xiauj

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT - MODS:

I just realized I posted in the Storage Devices sub-forum when I should have posted this in the Troubleshooting sub-forum.... (oops).

 

I've been away/idle/AFK from the forum for at least 6---12 months so umm... yeah.

Sorry about that.

Edited October 19, 2023 by Xiauj
Added a note for the Forum Moderators

[Tetras]

Does CrystalDiskInfo report bad blocks, media errors, uncorrectable errors, etc (you need to change the raw values to DEC format before they are readable, in Function, Advanced Features)?

 

What speed is your memory running at and is XMP/DOCP enabled?

 

I assume temps are fine?

 

8 minutes ago, Xiauj said:

Ever since I started getting back into Modded Minecraft amongst many other games both old/classic and new/modern; but mainly Modded Minecraft in particular, I keep getting BSODs

What did you do with the PC prior to the gaming?

 

Did you previously game successfully with this PC?

 

Is the CPU overclocked?

[Xiauj]

2 minutes ago, Tetras said:

Does CrystalDiskInfo report bad blocks, media errors, uncorrectable errors, etc (you need to change the raw values to DEC format before they are readable, in Function, Advanced Features)?

I'm assuming You mean this? (See Attached Image):

 

3 minutes ago, Tetras said:

What speed is your memory running at and is XMP/DOCP enabled?

Ah, yeah about that, I forgot to mention that above. So, My 2x kits are 3,000MHz but they are currently at 2,133MHz.

(Screenshot below was captured just now, Chrome/Discord/Spotify/EventViewer/CrystalDiskInfo/TaskManager are running, not Modded Minecraft currently)

 

6 minutes ago, Tetras said:

I assume temps are fine?

I presume so, yeah, the only thing worth noting is that My CPU Usage (Ya know the graph in Task Manager) spikes up and down quite a fair bit but I guess that's normal (ish) when running Chrome + Discord + Video Games, etc..

 

Physically, it feels fine and it sits next to a window which is normally open (The PC itself is about 1ft away at desk height).

 

 

8 minutes ago, Tetras said:

What did you do with the PC prior to the gaming?

Well I still did gaming, just not much in terms of Modded Minecraft, mainly other games on Steam, little bit of JavaScript learning which I've been doing earlier this year, a little bit of modelling in Blender back in March through to May, aside from that, not much else, just frequent use, YouTube vids, watching streams, gaming, etc..

 

10 minutes ago, Tetras said:

Did you previously game successfully with this PC?

Other games run 100% fine / smooth as heck but when it comes to Modded Minecraft (As of recently anyways), My PC has been BSOD'ing as explained originally. Hopefully I answered this right, not quite sure what You meant based on the wording / if You meant Modded Minecraft in particular.

 

11 minutes ago, Tetras said:

Is the CPU overclocked?

Nope.

[Tetras]

14 minutes ago, Xiauj said:

I'm assuming You mean this? (See Attached Image):

Looks like the drive is not reporting any problems with the flash (0 errors). Doesn't mean much, but it is something.

 

16 minutes ago, Xiauj said:

Other games run 100% fine / smooth as heck but when it comes to Modded Minecraft (As of recently anyways), My PC has been BSOD'ing as explained originally. Hopefully I answered this right, not quite sure what You meant based on the wording / if You meant Modded Minecraft in particular.

Is there anything that sets modded Minecraft apart, from the other games that run perfectly? It could be the software it uses, the way it interacts with/uses your hardware?

 

18 minutes ago, Xiauj said:

I forgot to mention that above. So, My 2x kits are 3,000MHz but they are currently at 2,133MHz.

I see, should be fine then, but I'd recommend running a memory test anyway to rule it out. You could also try setting them to the manufacturer's recommended voltage, if they're still running at the default (2133, 1.2v).

[Xiauj]

3 minutes ago, Tetras said:

Is there anything that sets modded Minecraft apart, from the other games that run perfectly? It could be the software it uses, the way it interacts with/uses your hardware?

What do You mean by "anything that sets Modded Minecraft apart" ..?  The launcher I use by the way is called "MultiMC".

 

4 minutes ago, Tetras said:

I see, should be fine then, but I'd recommend running a memory test anyway to rule it out. You could also try setting them to the manufacturer's recommended voltage, if they're still running at the default (2133, 1.2v).

What software/application should I use to test My RAM / check the DIMMs?

In reply to/about the voltage, yeah I suppose I could but would it make much of a difference?; Considering it's been set at [Whatever-it-is-at-the-moment-in-the-BIOS-Settings] for all these years?; At least 4 to 5+ years is how long I've had this system btw.

[Tetras]

8 minutes ago, Xiauj said:

What do You mean by "anything that sets Modded Minecraft apart" ..?  The launcher I use by the way is called "MultiMC".

Well, most of your games work, this one doesn't, so literally anything that is weird about this game. It might give you clues if the problem is software (or driver) related, or hardware related.

 

For example: you mentioned Java and this is not very common to be needed, so maybe there's something (driver?) that is not happy with running this.

 

10 minutes ago, Xiauj said:

In reply to/about the voltage, yeah I suppose I could but would it make much of a difference?; Considering it's been set at [Whatever-it-is-at-the-moment-in-the-BIOS-Settings] for all these years?; At least 4 to 5+ years is how long I've had this system btw.

I don't know. It might help if say: Minecraft has higher memory usage/makes it hit higher temperatures and this is leading to instability that doesn't occur elsewhere, or the CPU's memory controller and/or the memory is degrading.

 

12 minutes ago, Xiauj said:

What software/application should I use to test My RAM / check the DIMMs?

You can use Windows built-in tool or run memtest86. Something like Prime 95 can also work, but if there's any kind of significant issue (e.g. a stick has gone bad) then it is likely to show up very quickly with whatever you run.

[Xiauj]

6 minutes ago, Tetras said:

Well, most of your games work, this one doesn't, so literally anything that is weird about this game. It might give you clues if the problem is software (or driver) related, or hardware related.

 

For example: you mentioned Java and this is not very common to be needed, so maybe there's something (driver?) that is not happy with running this.

Well, the instance does work / launch successfully because if it didn't, it would give Me errors when starting the Minecraft instance.

 

In reply to/about Java, it is needed when playing Modded Minecraft. Why?; Because a very large majority of mods runs off of something called "Minecraft Forge" which requires You guessed it... Java!

 

6 minutes ago, Tetras said:

I don't know. It might help if say: Minecraft has higher memory usage/makes it hit higher temperatures and this is leading to instability that doesn't occur elsewhere, or the CPU's memory controller and/or the memory is degrading.

I should have also noted this originally but My minimum allocated amount of memory is 1024 MB (1GB) whilst My maximum is 8192 MB (8GB).

 

6 minutes ago, Tetras said:

You can use Windows built-in tool or run memtest86. Something like Prime 95 can also work, but if there's any kind of significant issue (e.g. a stick has gone bad) then it is likely to show up very quickly with whatever you run.

Hmm okay, I'll try using the 3 aforementioned tools and reporting back here with the results. What's the name of the Windows built-in tool, by the way?

Edited October 19, 2023 by Xiauj

[Tetras]

53 minutes ago, Xiauj said:

Hmm okay, I'll try using the 3 aforementioned tools and reporting back here with the results. What's the name of the Windows built-in tool, by the way?

Windows Memory Diagnostic.

[Xiauj]

1 hour ago, Tetras said:

Windows Memory Diagnostic.

Just finished running this, no errors were found, will try memtest86 at some point. Do I need a USB for this?; Because if so, I don't have any spares lying around.

[Tetras]

50 minutes ago, Xiauj said:

Just finished running this, no errors were found, will try memtest86 at some point. Do I need a USB for this?; Because if so, I don't have any spares lying around.

I think one tool is enough troubleshooting the memory for now.

[Xiauj]

16 hours ago, Tetras said:

I think one tool is enough troubleshooting the memory for now.

Hey so umm,

I just ran memtest86 which lasted the entire night + afternoon pretty much, it got through 3 Passes with no errors, it was on Pass #4 but honestly, I was getting bored without being able to use My PC so I stopped it 50% of the way through 

 

Anyway, no errors were found soo... I don't know if it's the RAM that's at fault either.

Whilst running memtest86 last night however, I was speaking to someone on Discord and they said it could be due to the fact that I'm using 2 of the same 16GB kits (Equalling 32GB total), He also said that the voltages might need to be adjusted.

 

Thoughts?

[Xiauj]

Umm.... ok yeah, there's definitely something wrong.

 

I just updated My NVIDIA Drivers, was fine for about 5 minutes, then it BSOD'd again. Didn't even have Modded MC running that time, just Google Chrome and Discord. Also just checked Event Viewer, it's the same exact error.

 

 

Edit:

If any forum-moderators see this, could they move it to the troubleshooting section of the forum instead, please?

Would be greatly appreciated!

Edited October 20, 2023 by Xiauj
Added a note for the Forum Moderators

[Tetras]

53 minutes ago, Xiauj said:

Whilst running memtest86 last night however, I was speaking to someone on Discord and they said it could be due to the fact that I'm using 2 of the same 16GB kits (Equalling 32GB total), He also said that the voltages might need to be adjusted.

 

Thoughts?

Yeah, it is possible that it might help, especially since you have a 1st gen Ryzen (assuming it isn't a 1600 AF).