PC Upgrade

[Shirai]

Budget (including currency): ~1750-1800€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 1440p with high settings / High refresh rate Gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

I recently finished school, got a job and since I now have my own money to throw at things, I decided that I finally want to 'upgrade' my computer.

Current build:

 

CPU - Ryzen 5 1600X

Cooler - dont make me get started, it´s just some Tower with a 120mm fan attached to it

GPU - MSI GTX 1050 Ti Gaming

MB - ASUS Prime X370-Pro

RAM - 16 GB 2400 MT/s 

M.2 - Crucial P5 1TB - as you can probably tell the M.2 drive is oddly new because i bought it earlier this year

HDD - 2x 1TB Seagate Barracuda 

PSU - Seasonic Focus GX 850 - same as the M.2, my old PSU decided to blow itself up half a year ago and since the Focus GX was on sale for like half of its orginal price I just bought it

Case - Corsair 275R Airflow 

Main Monitor - LG Ultragear 27in 1440p 180 hz

2. Monitor - Some offbrand 1080p 60 hz Monitor that I use as a Media/Discord screen while I game

 

Before I list the parts I considering upgrading to I'll start off by stating that I'm a die hard Nvidia fan and I don't consider going with a Radeon card even if it is more affordable and quite possibly offers better performance.

But to get to what this post is about, these are the parts that I plan on upgrading to:

 

CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D - 8 Core Gaming CPU, Ryzen 7 7700X isnt that much cheaper anyway

Cooler: DeepCool AK620 - Probably the Zero Dark version, it´s better looking and barely cheaper

MB: MSI MPG B650 Carbon WIFI - chose this MB for the looks // more on this down below because I need some help with this

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB 32GB CL30 - Some RGB, no particular reason to choose this kit

GPU: Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti AMP AIRO - currently the cheapest I could get my hands on, performance seems fine and it honestly looks alright aswell

 

But to get back to the MB: AM5 Boards are still crazy expensive, 270 for a good looking B650 Board with decent external IO is alot. It seems fine to me but I'm not sure if I should choose another B650 Board or maybe even a B650E or X670E board.

Maybe I should also add that I will buy the GPU seperately from the rest of my upgrade because I saved up enough money for it and I cant wait to finally get some more frames on my new 180 hz Monitor. Depending on Ryzen 8000 launch dates I might even get another pricecut for the 7800X3D because I wont be able to comfortably save up enough money to complete the upgrade before February to maybe even March or April next year.

 

Prices combined: 1718.07€

GPU: 849.00€

CPU, Cooler, MB & Ram: 869.07€

 

Please leave your thoughts on this in the comments. I'm open to anything as im not that experienced with picking parts.

 

 

Edited October 3, 2023 by Shirai
Messed up listing the right MB in my current build

[bezza...]

i would get the 5800x3d and try get a 7900xt, get a new cooler and ur psu is fine

[HypixelBedwars]

10 minutes ago, Shirai said:

Budget (including currency): ~1750-1800€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 1440p with high settings / High refresh rate Gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

I recently finished school, got a job and since I now have my own money to throw at things, I decided that I finally want to 'upgrade' my computer.

Current build:

 

CPU - Ryzen 5 1600X

Cooler - dont make me get started, it´s just some Tower with a 120mm fan attached to it

GPU - MSI GTX 1050 Ti Gaming

MB - MSI Prime X370-Pro

RAM - 16 GB 2400 MT/s 

M.2 - Crucial P5 1TB - as you can probably tell the M.2 drive is oddly new because i bought it earlier this year

HDD - 2x 1TB Seagate Barracuda 

PSU - Seasonic Focus GX 850 - same as the M.2, my old PSU decided to blow itself up half a year ago and since the Focus GX was on sale for like half of its orginal price I just bought it

Case - Corsair 275R Airflow 

Main Monitor - LG Ultragear 27in 1440p 180 hz

2. Monitor - Some offbrand 1080p 60 hz Monitor that I use as a Media/Discord screen while I game

 

Before I list the parts I considering upgrading to I'll start off by stating that I'm a die hard Nvidia fan and I don't consider going with a Radeon card even if it is more affordable and quite possibly offers better performance.

But to get to what this post is about, these are the parts that I plan on upgrading to:

 

CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D - 8 Core Gaming CPU, Ryzen 7 7700X isnt that much cheaper anyway

Cooler: DeepCool AK620 - Probably the Zero Dark version, it´s better looking and barely cheaper

MB: MSI MPG B650 Carbon WIFI - chose this MB for the looks // more on this down below because I need some help with this

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB 32GB CL30 - Some RGB, no particular reason to choose this kit

GPU: Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti AMP AIRO - currently the cheapest I could get my hands on, performance seems fine and it honestly looks alright aswell

 

But to get back to the MB: AM5 Boards are still crazy expensive, 270 for a good looking B650 Board with decent external IO is alot. It seems fine to me but I'm not sure if I should choose another B650 Board or maybe even a B650E or X670E board.

Maybe I should also add that I will buy the GPU seperately from the rest of my upgrade because I saved up enough money for it and I cant wait to finally get some more frames on my new 180 hz Monitor. Depending on Ryzen 8000 launch dates I might even get another pricecut for the 7800X3D because I wont be able to comfortably save up enough money to complete the upgrade before February to maybe even March or April next year.

 

Prices combined: 1718.07€

GPU: 849.00€

CPU, Cooler, MB & Ram: 869.07€

 

Please leave your thoughts on this in the comments. I'm open to anything as im not that experienced with picking parts.

 

 

Pretty decent build plan. You can save a lot of money buying your GPU used. It isn't for everybody, but you can save some budget for something else. 

[MadAnt250]

I don't how the market is by you, but see if you can update your motherboard's bios to accommodate ryzen 5000 and pick up a 5700x if cheap enough, then pick up a 32gb kit of ram that should be reasonable in price(I hope). I think a 4070 ti should pair fine with the 5700x. 

 

All this depends on how the market is in your part of the world.

[filpo]

10 minutes ago, bezza... said:

i would get the 5800x3d and try get a 7900xt, get a new cooler and ur psu is fine

That's a decent idea but their ram is pretty slow and with the budget this high you could possibly get a 7800X3D and a 7900 xtx as well as the rest of the system

 

5 minutes ago, HypixelBedwars said:

You can save a lot of money buying your GPU used

with this budget I'd rather buy it new

 

16 minutes ago, Shirai said:

Budget (including currency): ~1750-1800€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 1440p with high settings / High refresh rate Gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

I recently finished school, got a job and since I now have my own money to throw at things, I decided that I finally want to 'upgrade' my computer.

Current build:

 

CPU - Ryzen 5 1600X

Cooler - dont make me get started, it´s just some Tower with a 120mm fan attached to it

GPU - MSI GTX 1050 Ti Gaming

MB - MSI Prime X370-Pro

RAM - 16 GB 2400 MT/s 

M.2 - Crucial P5 1TB - as you can probably tell the M.2 drive is oddly new because i bought it earlier this year

HDD - 2x 1TB Seagate Barracuda 

PSU - Seasonic Focus GX 850 - same as the M.2, my old PSU decided to blow itself up half a year ago and since the Focus GX was on sale for like half of its orginal price I just bought it

Case - Corsair 275R Airflow 

Main Monitor - LG Ultragear 27in 1440p 180 hz

2. Monitor - Some offbrand 1080p 60 hz Monitor that I use as a Media/Discord screen while I game

 

Before I list the parts I considering upgrading to I'll start off by stating that I'm a die hard Nvidia fan and I don't consider going with a Radeon card even if it is more affordable and quite possibly offers better performance.

But to get to what this post is about, these are the parts that I plan on upgrading to:

 

CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D - 8 Core Gaming CPU, Ryzen 7 7700X isnt that much cheaper anyway

Cooler: DeepCool AK620 - Probably the Zero Dark version, it´s better looking and barely cheaper

MB: MSI MPG B650 Carbon WIFI - chose this MB for the looks // more on this down below because I need some help with this

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB 32GB CL30 - Some RGB, no particular reason to choose this kit

GPU: Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti AMP AIRO - currently the cheapest I could get my hands on, performance seems fine and it honestly looks alright aswell

 

But to get back to the MB: AM5 Boards are still crazy expensive, 270 for a good looking B650 Board with decent external IO is alot. It seems fine to me but I'm not sure if I should choose another B650 Board or maybe even a B650E or X670E board.

Maybe I should also add that I will buy the GPU seperately from the rest of my upgrade because I saved up enough money for it and I cant wait to finally get some more frames on my new 180 hz Monitor. Depending on Ryzen 8000 launch dates I might even get another pricecut for the 7800X3D because I wont be able to comfortably save up enough money to complete the upgrade before February to maybe even March or April next year.

 

Prices combined: 1718.07€

GPU: 849.00€

CPU, Cooler, MB & Ram: 869.07€

 

Please leave your thoughts on this in the comments. I'm open to anything as im not that experienced with picking parts.

 

 

try this build

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€399.98 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 DIGITAL 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€77.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€230.87 @ Galaxus) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (€103.89 @ Galaxus) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€987.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Total: €1800.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-03 21:01 CEST+0200

 

17 minutes ago, Shirai said:

MB - MSI Prime X370-Pro

there's no such thing

Is it the MSI x370 a pro or the ASUS x370 prime?

[Shirai]

Thats kindof what I thought. The 5800X3D still has great value but I'd personally rather go with DDR5

14 minutes ago, filpo said:

24 minutes ago, bezza... said:

i would get the 5800x3d and try get a 7900xt, get a new cooler and ur psu is fine

That's a decent idea but their ram is pretty slow and with the budget this high you could possibly get a 7800X3D and a 7900 xtx as well as the rest of the system

 

12 minutes ago, filpo said:

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (€103.89 @ Galaxus) 

I'll look into the Kit, Reviews say Ryzen comfortably goes up to 6000 and that cas timings aren't really that important for DDR5 but thanks for the suggestion.

 

10 minutes ago, filpo said:

Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€987.99 @ Mindfactory) 

Its probably a great Card dont get me wrong, but as I said im willing to spend more money for less performance just to get myself a Nvidia card

 

8 minutes ago, filpo said:

with this budget I'd rather buy it new

So would I aswell. I dislike getting used stuff. Its probably a great Idea i just feel uncomfortable with it.

 

7 minutes ago, filpo said:

there's no such thing

Is it the MSI x370 a pro or the ASUS x370 prime?

yeah I messed up, I was looking at another build and listed the wrong one.. Its the Asus prime x370-pro

[Shirai]

17 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

I don't how the market is by you, but see if you can update your motherboard's bios to accommodate ryzen 5000 and pick up a 5700x if cheap enough, then pick up a 32gb kit of ram that should be reasonable in price(I hope). I think a 4070 ti should pair fine with the 5700x. 

I originally had plans somewhat like this but I'd much rather go current gen.

[Shirai]

21 minutes ago, HypixelBedwars said:

33 minutes ago, Shirai said:

Budget (including currency): ~1750-1800€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 1440p with high settings / High refresh rate Gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

I recently finished school, got a job and since I now have my own money to throw at things, I decided that I finally want to 'upgrade' my computer.

Current build:

 

CPU - Ryzen 5 1600X

Cooler - dont make me get started, it´s just some Tower with a 120mm fan attached to it

GPU - MSI GTX 1050 Ti Gaming

MB - MSI Prime X370-Pro

RAM - 16 GB 2400 MT/s 

M.2 - Crucial P5 1TB - as you can probably tell the M.2 drive is oddly new because i bought it earlier this year

HDD - 2x 1TB Seagate Barracuda 

PSU - Seasonic Focus GX 850 - same as the M.2, my old PSU decided to blow itself up half a year ago and since the Focus GX was on sale for like half of its orginal price I just bought it

Case - Corsair 275R Airflow 

Main Monitor - LG Ultragear 27in 1440p 180 hz

2. Monitor - Some offbrand 1080p 60 hz Monitor that I use as a Media/Discord screen while I game

 

Before I list the parts I considering upgrading to I'll start off by stating that I'm a die hard Nvidia fan and I don't consider going with a Radeon card even if it is more affordable and quite possibly offers better performance.

But to get to what this post is about, these are the parts that I plan on upgrading to:

 

CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D - 8 Core Gaming CPU, Ryzen 7 7700X isnt that much cheaper anyway

Cooler: DeepCool AK620 - Probably the Zero Dark version, it´s better looking and barely cheaper

MB: MSI MPG B650 Carbon WIFI - chose this MB for the looks // more on this down below because I need some help with this

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB 32GB CL30 - Some RGB, no particular reason to choose this kit

GPU: Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti AMP AIRO - currently the cheapest I could get my hands on, performance seems fine and it honestly looks alright aswell

 

But to get back to the MB: AM5 Boards are still crazy expensive, 270 for a good looking B650 Board with decent external IO is alot. It seems fine to me but I'm not sure if I should choose another B650 Board or maybe even a B650E or X670E board.

Maybe I should also add that I will buy the GPU seperately from the rest of my upgrade because I saved up enough money for it and I cant wait to finally get some more frames on my new 180 hz Monitor. Depending on Ryzen 8000 launch dates I might even get another pricecut for the 7800X3D because I wont be able to comfortably save up enough money to complete the upgrade before February to maybe even March or April next year.

 

Prices combined: 1718.07€

GPU: 849.00€

CPU, Cooler, MB & Ram: 869.07€

 

Please leave your thoughts on this in the comments. I'm open to anything as im not that experienced with picking parts.

 

 

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Pretty decent build plan. You can save a lot of money buying your GPU used. It isn't for everybody, but you can save some budget for something else.

A friend of mine just told me to suck it up, get a used 1080 Ti off of Ebay and wait with getting a new GPU till rtx 5000 rolls out. Sounds fine to me but on the other hand id just rather get what I can now and be done for some time.

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Shirai said:

I'll look into the Kit, Reviews say Ryzen comfortably goes up to 6000 and that cas timings aren't really that important for DDR5 but thanks for the suggestion

Cas timings do matter for am5. 5600 cl28 is the sweet spot for am5

 

1 minute ago, Shirai said:

Its probably a great Card dont get me wrong, but as I said im willing to spend more money for less performance just to get myself a Nvidia card

If you’re really sure…

Then a 4070 ti like this one would work great https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/f3zhP6/pny-xlr8-gaming-verto-epic-x-rgb-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12-gb-video-card-vcg4070t12tfxxpb1

2 minutes ago, Shirai said:

eah I messed up, I was looking at another build and listed the wrong one.. Its the Asus prime x370-pro

X370s should be compatibile with the 5800X3D with a bios update if that suits you. Just ask if you want an example build with a 5800X3D

[Shirai]

7 minutes ago, filpo said:

11 minutes ago, Shirai said:

eah I messed up, I was looking at another build and listed the wrong one.. Its the Asus prime x370-pro

X370s should be compatibile with the 5800X3D with a bios update if that suits you. Just ask if you want an example build with a 5800X3D

Already got the Bios updated, since I still got time till I can afford getting a CPU update I'll consider it.

 

7 minutes ago, filpo said:

If you’re really sure…

Then a 4070 ti like this one would work great https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/f3zhP6/pny-xlr8-gaming-verto-epic-x-rgb-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12-gb-video-card-vcg4070t12tfxxpb1

This one should do the trick aswell https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/PjYmP6/zotac-gaming-amp-airo-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12-gb-video-card-zt-d40710f-10p but ill keep the PNY card inmind incase prices change again 

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Shirai said:

Already got the Bios updated, since I still got time till I can afford getting a CPU update I'll consider it.

 

This one should do the trick aswell https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/PjYmP6/zotac-gaming-amp-airo-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12-gb-video-card-zt-d40710f-10p but ill keep the PNY card inmind incase prices change again 

That gpu would be good too. Either would suit your needs

[SorryBella]

7 hours ago, Shirai said:

CPU - Ryzen 5 1600X

Cooler - dont make me get started, it´s just some Tower with a 120mm fan attached to it

GPU - MSI GTX 1050 Ti Gaming

MB - ASUS Prime X370-Pro

RAM - 16 GB 2400 MT/s 

M.2 - Crucial P5 1TB - as you can probably tell the M.2 drive is oddly new because i bought it earlier this year

HDD - 2x 1TB Seagate Barracuda 

PSU - Seasonic Focus GX 850 - same as the M.2, my old PSU decided to blow itself up half a year ago and since the Focus GX was on sale for like half of its orginal price I just bought it

Case - Corsair 275R Airflow 

Main Monitor - LG Ultragear 27in 1440p 180 hz

2. Monitor - Some offbrand 1080p 60 hz Monitor that I use as a Media/Discord screen while I game

my plan would be to keep the PSU, case, HDD, and SSD. Everything else would be an easy ditch, i wouldnt even bother testing a 5800X3D stability on low end X370 board.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€329.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.29 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€182.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€125.90 @ Alza) 
Video Card: Palit GamingPro GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  (€1246.71 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Corsair 275R Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Total: €1922.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-04 04:18 CEST+0200

 

100 euro overbudget but you can just let go of the CPU platform in bundle on used market to cover the cost. The 4080 would wreck the 4070Ti in longevity and actually perform closer to the XTX.

 

[bezza...]

11 hours ago, Shirai said:

A friend of mine just told me to suck it up, get a used 1080 Ti off of Ebay and wait with getting a new GPU till rtx 5000 rolls out. Sounds fine to me but on the other hand id just rather get what I can now and be done for some time.

id get the 5700xt instead as they perform simarlry but the amd card has longer driver life in it

[venomtail]

Merely upgrading CPU and corresponding parts you'd be able to get a mean monster:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€299.63 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€49.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (€85.90 @ Alza) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Video Card: PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1097.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Corsair 275R Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Total: €1533.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-04 10:15 CEST+0200

 

Your X370 seems pretty iffy but I don't think there's no reason we shouldn't put a bit of faith in it.

Cooling is still a question. One small 120mm fan like ak400 or bigger setup like AK620? Case have sufficient cooling as well, all the fans there?

 

ASUS website's page is down, I can't check if you have a BIOS update that unlocks 5800X3D compatibility as well as 3600MHz RAM speeds.

 

I don't see the point in spending like 300eur more for a 7700/X to get the same performance:

 

[TatamiMatt]

Few small minor changes to @SorryBellas setup

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/GDXd9c

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€338.00 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€49.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€182.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€128.90 @ Alza) 
Video Card: Palit GamingPro GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  (€1187.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Corsair 275R Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Total: €1887.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-04 10:30 CEST+0200

 

Id get the 7700X, 9EUR more for a little extra clock speed and some more features, and to keep up with the slightly higher heat output the phantom spirit instead of the peerless assassin