gpu upgrade

[BLOS88]

so im saving money for upgrading to a new gpu

 

im currently  have:

 

I7 12700k

asus aorus elite ax ddr4

32gb corsair ram 3600

corsair RM850X gold 

rtx 3070 asus tuf that i got second hand with no issues and working fine with temps, and cleaned

 

 

thinking about a rtx 4070 but i dont know

 

amd gpus i dont know nothing about them, not a nvidia fanboy

 

or should i get a 3080ti or 3090 second hand?

 

what should be the best gpu on the 40 series?

 

playing at 1080p BTW

[filpo]

10 minutes ago, BLOS88 said:

or should i get a 3080ti or 3090 second hand?

 

what should be the best gpu on the 40 series?

but what's your budget? And what country?

 

i wouldn't get a 3090 on an rm850x and if it's just for gaming, also consider the 6950 xt

[BLOS88]

i live outside the states

 

budget: $500-600us

 

 

why not the rtx 3090? on the rm 850x just curious

 

[DarkSmith2]

8 minutes ago, BLOS88 said:

why not the rtx 3090? on the rm 850x just curious

you could get trouble with transient spikes... forcing pc shutdowns via overcurrent protection.
Highest end 30series cards can be really picky.

 

8 minutes ago, BLOS88 said:

budget: $500-600us

Not really worth upgrading to something from that budget. You will only see an uplift of about 30ish %.

[BLOS88]

i see but the rx  6950 wouldnt be a problem with the same psu?

 

BTW i dont do OC everything at stock settings

[filpo]

5 minutes ago, BLOS88 said:

see but the rx  6950 wouldnt be a problem with the same psu?

it shouldn't

 

6 minutes ago, BLOS88 said:

BTW i dont do OC everything at stock settings

Try this gpu

XFX Speedster MERC 319 Radeon RX 6950 XT 16 GB Video Card (RX-695XATBD9) - PCPartPicker

[DarkSmith2]

4 minutes ago, BLOS88 said:

i see but the rx  6950 wouldnt be a problem with the same psu?

should set your goals higher and save up more before considering to upgrade. unless you want constantly trying to up-trade.

[dizmo]

I personally wouldn't bother upgrading unless you get it for a killer deal, if you're looking at cards in the same generation.

The best 40 series card is the 4090.

I'd avoid AMD cards if it were my build, in my experience they tend to have more issues than Nvidia cards as far as drivers are concerned.

 

Is there a particular reason you want to upgrade?

What monitor are you running?

[BLOS88]

13 minutes ago, filpo said:

it shouldn't

 

Try this gpu

XFX Speedster MERC 319 Radeon RX 6950 XT 16 GB Video Card (RX-695XATBD9) - PCPartPicker

thank you

[BLOS88]

3 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I personally wouldn't bother upgrading unless you get it for a killer deal, if you're looking at cards in the same generation.

The best 40 series card is the 4090.

I'd avoid AMD cards if it were my build, in my experience they tend to have more issues than Nvidia cards as far as drivers are concerned.

 

Is there a particular reason you want to upgrade?

What monitor are you running?

i had a 7770hd back in the day but too many problem with driver at the time

 

im using a AOC 60hz led monitor

[dizmo]

12 minutes ago, BLOS88 said:

i had a 7770hd back in the day but too many problem with driver at the time

 

im using a AOC 60hz led monitor

The card you have is more than enough then, you won't see improvements by buying a better one.

[BLOS88]

5 minutes ago, dizmo said:

The card you have is more than enough then, you won't see improvements by buying a better one.

ok thank you i will consider it

 

but im curious if i keep my gpu, what kind of monitor should i get then? for a budget of $200us

[dizmo]

13 minutes ago, BLOS88 said:

ok thank you i will consider it

 

but im curious if i keep my gpu, what kind of monitor should i get then? for a budget of $200us

That's kind of a hard question to answer without anything to go on. You'd need to answer the following questions:

1. What size monitor do you want?
2. Where are you buying? Getting prices quoted in USD is useless you're buying in the US.
3. What resolution do you want?
4. What games do you play?
5. Are you able to buy something used where you live?

[BLOS88]

45 minutes ago, dizmo said:

That's kind of a hard question to answer without anything to go on. You'd need to answer the following questions:

1. What size monitor do you want?
2. Where are you buying? Getting prices quoted in USD is useless you're buying in the US.
3. What resolution do you want?
4. What games do you play?
5. Are you able to buy something used where you live?

1- currenlty using 27 monitor

2- i livew in chile, mostly i buy in amazon,more cheap than local for my currency

3- maybe 1440p in the future

4-mostly now MW2 and BF2042,cyberpunk,SF6

5-yes,i dont have any problems buying something second hand

[WallacEngineering]

May want to consider holding off and saving for an RTX 4080 or possibly waiting for RTX 5000 series.

 

Upgrading from one generation to the very next one at the same tier of card just seems like a bit of a waste if you ask me.

 

For all that money spent you will only get a 30% performance improvement, the only huge change here is the +50% VRAM which will help with your aim to play 1440p in the future.

 

The RTX 4080 is really expensive I know, but at least then you would be getting quite a massive upgrade plus double the VRAM and you could honestly hold onto that card for many years to come.

 

If you are just gaming with the cards or maybe simple workloads like video editing - you could try AMD. The RX 7900-XT is far more powerful than the RTX 4070, in fact it even beats the 4070-Ti, and also has 20GB of VRAM. Its less than 10% slower than the RTX 4080, but costs about 33% less.

 

Im not sure about pricing in your area but here in the states a 7900-XT can be had for a bit under $800 while the cheapest RTX 4080 is still over $1100.

 

I know all of these options are significantly outside your price range but I just can't see any reason to spend $600 upgrading from a 70 class card to another 70 class card thats only a single generation newer. An RX 7900-XT is a full 50% faster than the RTX 3070 even on some games that prefer Nvidia cards. When some games prefer AMD, its a full 90-100% faster.

 

[BLOS88]

50 minutes ago, WallacEngineering said:

May want to consider holding off and saving for an RTX 4080 or possibly waiting for RTX 5000 series.

 

Upgrading from one generation to the very next one at the same tier of card just seems like a bit of a waste if you ask me.

 

For all that money spent you will only get a 30% performance improvement, the only huge change here is the +50% VRAM which will help with your aim to play 1440p in the future.

 

The RTX 4080 is really expensive I know, but at least then you would be getting quite a massive upgrade plus double the VRAM and you could honestly hold onto that card for many years to come.

 

If you are just gaming with the cards or maybe simple workloads like video editing - you could try AMD. The RX 7900-XT is far more powerful than the RTX 4070, in fact it even beats the 4070-Ti, and also has 20GB of VRAM. Its less than 10% slower than the RTX 4080, but costs about 33% less.

 

Im not sure about pricing in your area but here in the states a 7900-XT can be had for a bit under $800 while the cheapest RTX 4080 is still over $1100.

 

I know all of these options are significantly outside your price range but I just can't see any reason to spend $600 upgrading from a 70 class card to another 70 class card thats only a single generation newer. An RX 7900-XT is a full 50% faster than the RTX 3070 even on some games that prefer Nvidia cards. When some games prefer AMD, its a full 90-100% faster.

 

thank you very much

 

i think i will save more money

 

but i will keep an eye to the RX 7900-XT

 

is my psu enough for the 7900?

[WallacEngineering]

2 hours ago, BLOS88 said:

thank you very much

 

i think i will save more money

 

but i will keep an eye to the RX 7900-XT

 

is my psu enough for the 7900?

 

Yes, I run the RX 7900-XTX off an 850-Watt Platinum.

 

The math works out like this:

 

12700K - 200 watts/ 250W OC

7900-XT - 320 watts/ 370W OC

+100 watts for fans, mobo, ECT.

 

Total system Power in the worst case scenario is 620 watts, 720 watts if you overclock to the absolute maximum.

[BLOS88]

On 9/10/2023 at 12:09 AM, WallacEngineering said:

 

Yes, I run the RX 7900-XTX off an 850-Watt Platinum.

 

The math works out like this:

 

12700K - 200 watts/ 250W OC

7900-XT - 320 watts/ 370W OC

+100 watts for fans, mobo, ECT.

 

Total system Power in the worst case scenario is 620 watts, 720 watts if you overclock to the absolute maximum.

thank you very much

i had made a choice

[DeerDK]

1 hour ago, BLOS88 said:

thank you very much

i had made a choice

What did you go with?

[WallacEngineering]

7 hours ago, DeerDK said:

What did you go with?

@BLOS88 I am curious as well because I completely forgot there is a much more affordable alternative to both the RTX 4070-Ti and RX 7900-XT that was just released: AMDs new RX 7800-XT has finally launched.

 

Sure, its only a bit faster than the RTX 4070, but it would give you a decent uplift of about 40% overall in performance over your RTX 3070, and it comes with 16GB of VRAM, all for $500 here in the states.

 

That makes it a far better value than the RTX 4070 which would only give you a 30% uplift with 12GB of VRAM for $600.

 

I recommend upgrading when the difference is 50%+ in performance but I have to admit the 7800-XT is not a terrible option. It is also specifically designed to tackle 1440p, offering pretty high frame rates at Maxed-Out Ultra-Everything Settings or extremely responsive high refresh rate gaming at High Settings.