Memory type (XMP vs. EXPO)

[Legion7157]

I'm currently building an all AMD build and am having trouble selecting my RAM. I know the basic difference between XMP and EXPO but when I look at the corsair 6000mhz 32gb kit there are 2 variants. One is an XMP certified kit at 132$ CAD and the other is an EXPO certified kit at 155$ CAD. Do I need to buy the EXPO kit or will I be able to apply EXPO profiles to the XMP kit. Also, since it's all AMD, am I better off with the EXPO certified kit? I'm going for te 7800x3d with the AsRock x670 Steel legend motherboard.

[GuiltySpark_]

I'm going to give you this tip based on completely anecdotal information from seeing people build Zen4 for the last 6-7 months. Stay away from Corsair, I cannot understand the stranglehold that company has on people that they flock to it so much but everyone that seems to have memory issues with XMP / Expo working out of the box seem to have Corsair DDR5. Again, I know, completely anecdotal. 

 

Meanwhile, this G.Skill kit is cheaper than the Corsair EXPO kit and I believe you'd absolutely have a better experience if enabling EXPO and leaving it is what you're after. This particular kit is also almost guaranteed to be Hynix M or A die stuff which is ideal. If you get adventurous later on and explore beyond EXPO, we know it'll overclock well. 

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/LBstt6/gskill-flare-x5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-fx5 
 

[Dedayog]

40 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

I'm going to give you this tip based on completely anecdotal information from seeing people build Zen4 for the last 6-7 months. Stay away from Corsair, I cannot understand the stranglehold that company has on people that they flock to it so much but everyone that seems to have memory issues with XMP / Expo working out of the box seem to have Corsair DDR5. Again, I know, completely anecdotal. 

 

Meanwhile, this G.Skill kit is cheaper than the Corsair EXPO kit and I believe you'd absolutely have a better experience if enabling EXPO and leaving it is what you're after. This particular kit is also almost guaranteed to be Hynix M or A die stuff which is ideal. If you get adventurous later on and explore beyond EXPO, we know it'll overclock well. 

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/LBstt6/gskill-flare-x5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-fx5 
 

Yes, stay away from Corsair and their bullshit.

 

All I can think of is marketing.  

 

Same reason Bose had such luck selling $500 clock radios, every damn car company stereo, and insane frequency response speakers for decades.

[WereCat]

47 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

I'm going to give you this tip based on completely anecdotal information from seeing people build Zen4 for the last 6-7 months. Stay away from Corsair, I cannot understand the stranglehold that company has on people that they flock to it so much but everyone that seems to have memory issues with XMP / Expo working out of the box seem to have Corsair DDR5. Again, I know, completely anecdotal. 

 

Meanwhile, this G.Skill kit is cheaper than the Corsair EXPO kit and I believe you'd absolutely have a better experience if enabling EXPO and leaving it is what you're after. This particular kit is also almost guaranteed to be Hynix M or A die stuff which is ideal. If you get adventurous later on and explore beyond EXPO, we know it'll overclock well. 

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/LBstt6/gskill-flare-x5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-fx5 
 

Both DDR4 and DDR5... I've seen multiple posts almost daily about people having issues with Corsair Vengeance on AM4. 

[GuiltySpark_]

Just now, WereCat said:

Both DDR4 and DDR5... I've seen multiple posts almost daily about people having issues with Corsair Vengeance on AM4. 

Oh, their cheaper DDR4 kits have been problematic for a long time for sure. I wanted to give their DDR5 a chance but.. I just can't help but continually see new builders here and in Discord struggling with their Corsair DDR5 kits, even on the latest AM5 BIOSes. 

 

The only thing I can do at that point is try to steer people to something else that's usually cheaper. 

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Oh, their cheaper DDR4 kits have been problematic for a long time for sure. I wanted to give their DDR5 a chance but.. I just can't help but continually see new builders here and in Discord struggling with their Corsair DDR5 kits, even on the latest AM5 BIOSes. 

 

The only thing I can do at that point is try to steer people to something else that's usually cheaper. 

Definitely and across Intel and AMD (both AM4 / AM5), G. Skill has been 1 click ease of use.  I 100% agree with your recommendation for those Flare X5's above.

 

I may buy them to swap out my CL36's actually.

[Legion7157]

4 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Oh, their cheaper DDR4 kits have been problematic for a long time for sure. I wanted to give their DDR5 a chance but.. I just can't help but continually see new builders here and in Discord struggling with their Corsair DDR5 kits, even on the latest AM5 BIOSes. 

 

The only thing I can do at that point is try to steer people to something else that's usually cheaper. 

 

6 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Both DDR4 and DDR5... I've seen multiple posts almost daily about people having issues with Corsair Vengeance on AM4. 

 

26 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Yes, stay away from Corsair and their bullshit.

 

All I can think of is marketing.  

 

Same reason Bose had such luck selling $500 clock radios, every damn car company stereo, and insane frequency response speakers for decades.

 

54 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

I'm going to give you this tip based on completely anecdotal information from seeing people build Zen4 for the last 6-7 months. Stay away from Corsair, I cannot understand the stranglehold that company has on people that they flock to it so much but everyone that seems to have memory issues with XMP / Expo working out of the box seem to have Corsair DDR5. Again, I know, completely anecdotal. 

 

Meanwhile, this G.Skill kit is cheaper than the Corsair EXPO kit and I believe you'd absolutely have a better experience if enabling EXPO and leaving it is what you're after. This particular kit is also almost guaranteed to be Hynix M or A die stuff which is ideal. If you get adventurous later on and explore beyond EXPO, we know it'll overclock well. 

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/LBstt6/gskill-flare-x5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-fx5 
 

Thanks for the great info. I went ahead with your Skill recommendation