Lagarith Vs Ut

[Bit8xPr0]

I downloaded both but I seem to get more fps with Lagarith but I crash with it. I haven't used Ut long enough to see but I get less fps. People like here http://forum.exkode.com/index.php?topic=25.0 say UT is faster but why isn't it for me?

[ionbasa]

I downloaded both but I seem to get more fps with Lagarith but I crash with it. I haven't used Ut long enough to see but I get less fps. People like here http://forum.exkode.com/index.php?topic=25.0 say UT is faster but why isn't it for me?

You have to set the number of threads under UT codec settings. It also depends which color space you are using. For best performance, I suggest 4:2:2 or 4:2:0.

so make sure you use ULY0 or ULY2.

[Bit8xPr0]

I've been using 6 threads for Dxtory or is this not a good idea because it uses up my whole cpu? @ionbasa

[ionbasa]

I've been using 6 threads for Dxtory or is this not a good idea because it uses up my whole cpu? @ionbasa

That depends on what CPU you have. Personally I would set dxtory to use 4 threads. Note that you also have to set the number of threads under the UT video codec settings:

I would set the frame divide count to same as number of logical processors, and change the radio button to Predict Left. These are the setting I personally use.

[Bit8xPr0]

I have an FX 6300 using 6 threads currently and it has less performance. And what do you mean radio button? Yes I set it as 6 in the Codec settings. Personally do you use UT video

[Bit8xPr0]

@ionbasa

[ionbasa]

I have an FX 6300 using 6 threads currently and it has less performance. And what do you mean radio button? Yes I set it as 6 in the Codec settings. Personally do you use UT video

Yes, I personally do use the UT Video Codec. I would set Dxtory to use 4 threads, and set the UT video codec to use 6 frame divide counts. A radio button I was referring to is under the UT video codec settings, it is the one that allows you to select "Optimize for decoding speed (Predict left)". You can see these settings in this screenshot: 

 

As for why you are seeing an decrease in performance, I suggest you read how AMD handles their cpu "cores": http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/10/12/amd-fx-8150-review/2

It effectively comes down to the fact that each core is sharing resources with another core per module.

[Recon-UK]

I used 2 threads back on a 2500k.

[Bit8xPr0]

@ionbasa A decrease in performance? Well I'm still using an fx6300 with lagarith and it is working with good fps just not with UT

[ionbasa]

@ionbasa A decrease in performance? Well I'm still using an fx6300 with lagarith and it is working with good fps just not with UT

That would be because lagarith is single threaded. You will have to manually adjust the number of frame divides until you get decent performance. Maybe decrease it to 4 or 2. Also which colorspace are you using? ULY0 or ULY2?

[Bit8xPr0]

I don't see where either of those are No ULY0 or ULY2 there are 2 Yuv422's and 2 Yuv420's which are like 601 and 709 variants. @ionbasa

[ionbasa]

I don't see where either of those are No ULY0 or ULY2 there are 2 Yuv422's and 2 Yuv420's which are like 601 and 709 variants. @ionbasa

Use the 601 variant. ULY2 is for 422s and ULY0 is for 420. Try using 422 first. then try 420. Use whichever you feel gives you the best performance, which wich should be 420.

 

If you need help deciding here is the UT Readme: http://umezawa.dyndns.info/archive/utvideo/utvideo-14.0.0-readme.en.html

Look under FourCC section.

[Bit8xPr0]

@ionbasa thanks for your time. I will test it out some more with lowered threads and what not.

[Bit8xPr0]

@ionbasa I guess I will have to use lagarith no matter what setting I choose it lags. I play a game that you have to be at 140 fps or it lags and I get 60

[Recon-UK]

@ionbasa I guess I will have to use lagarith no matter what setting I choose it lags. I play a game that you have to be at 140 fps or it lags and I get 60

You have the wrong hardware then, here an i5 is stronger using Lagorith, why not use shadowplay?

[Bit8xPr0]

My GTX 560 TI doesn't support shadowplay.

[Recon-UK]

My GTX 560 TI doesn't support shadowplay.

Looks like you might be stuck then.

 

 

Using a single HDD?

[Bit8xPr0]

I'm using a SSD OS HDD Games and another HDD for Videos. @Recon-UK What about HuffyUv?

[Recon-UK]

I'm using a SSD OS HDD Games and another HDD for Videos. @Recon-UK What about HuffyUv?

Never used it, give it a shot.

[Bit8xPr0]

@Recon-UK @ionbasa you think maybe UT has a fps limit?

[Recon-UK]

@Recon-UK @ionbasa you think maybe UT has a fps limit?

You mean Unreal Tournament?

 

Yes i believe so, there are ways to unlock it, but you need to dig into it's config files.

[Askew]

@ionbasa I guess I will have to use lagarith no matter what setting I choose it lags. I play a game that you have to be at 140 fps or it lags and I get 60

Lagarith produces vastly different file sizes depending on whether you capture in RGB or not, use YV12.

[Recon-UK]

Lagarith produces vastly different file sizes depending on whether you capture in RGB or not, use YV12.

This is a YV12 recording:

 

 

Not the best quality for the res at all, but file size was small, and preserved a decent quality thanks to higher res.

[Askew]

This is a YV12 recording:

http://youtu.be/iqpIM2b6RnQ

Not the best quality for the res at all, but file size was small, and preserved a decent quality thanks to higher res.

True, I was suggesting that it could be why his fps tanks, some mechanical hard drives cannot keep up with RGB setting in lagarith.

Switching to YV12 would highlight if the bit rate was the issue.

[Bit8xPr0]

100 mbps is to slow? @Askew