RTX4070 vs RX 6950 XT with 650W PSU

[Johnny Who]

I know the discussion on the cards themselves has been had many times by now. But i am looking to upgrade but with my 650W PSU i am struggling a bit with the decision.

 

PC Spec:

• R7 3700x
• 32GB Ram
• RTX2060 6GB
• Corsair RM650x

If i had to purely choose on the card themselves, i would go with the 6950, but with my PSU i worry that it probably won't work out well without a PSU upgrade. So in that sense 4070 would be a better option but the whole Vram discussion lately has me worried about that.

 

So my options is a 4070 for €659 or a 6950 for €659 + €160 PSU850w. So basically 4070 for €695 vs a 6950 for €819. My conclusion at the moment is that the extra 160 euro for a PSU to make the 6950 work will counter any price/performance benefits the 6950 has.

 

 

 

[191x7]

How about the 6800XT?

 

For 1440p, the 3700X would bottleneck the 6950XT to the performance of the 6800XT anyways.

[Johnny Who]

6 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

How about the 6800XT?

 

For 1440p, the 3700X would bottleneck the 6950XT to the performance of the 6800XT anyways.

Hmm, that might a good option. 6800XT still seems to recommend 750W PSU though. But the total price would go down to about 700 euro if i add a PSU to the 6800xt. But guess i keep the same issue. wouldnt a 4070 for the same price be better?

[Mark Kaine]

11 minutes ago, Johnny Who said:

Hmm, that might a good option. 6800XT still seems to recommend 750W PSU though. But the total price would go down to about 700 euro if i add a PSU to the 6800xt. But guess i keep the same issue. wouldnt a 4070 for the same price be better?

they always recommend higher w psu than needed .. it depends on the quality of ur psu simply add the tdps of your components add 100w and you have a rough estimate if ur 650 are enough. 

 

if ur psu is low quality it doesn't matter tho... get a better one simply.

 

Hope this helps?

 

ps rmx is a good unit, so happy counting!

 

[191x7]

17 minutes ago, Johnny Who said:

Hmm, that might a good option. 6800XT still seems to recommend 750W PSU though. But the total price would go down to about 700 euro if i add a PSU to the 6800xt. But guess i keep the same issue. wouldnt a 4070 for the same price be better?

The 6800XT is a bit stronger than the 4070 in rasterization, a lot weaker in raytracing (not that it matters, both cards are too weak for any real raytracing) and has 4GB of VRAM more which should make it a bit better for the future.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Just go for a 6950xt and if it starts having random shutdown issues you can just undervolt

 

Technically you can fit in a used 3090 if you can find a good deal on one at fb marketplace or whatever local classifieds website (usually <700€), theres also a decent amount of used 850w going for like 50-60€ quality ones too like the rm(x) and not even over 5 years old sometimes (all psus last 10-15 years, quality ones lean towards/past 15 years), so you can get a used 3090 + used 850w for abit cheaper than that proposed 6950xt + horrifically overpriced 850w (new ones usually go around 100-110€)

[SorryBella]

42 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Just go for a 6950xt and if it starts having random shutdown issues you can just undervolt

 

Technically you can fit in a used 3090 if you can find a good deal on one at fb marketplace or whatever local classifieds website (usually <700€), theres also a decent amount of used 850w going for like 50-60€ quality ones too like the rm(x) and not even over 5 years old sometimes (all psus last 10-15 years, quality ones lean towards/past 15 years), so you can get a used 3090 + used 850w for abit cheaper than that proposed 6950xt + horrifically overpriced 850w (new ones usually go around 100-110€)

Didnt know Jokowi renamed "Nusantara" into "GPU Bottleneck".

 

6800XT should work on a 650W but you havent told us your specific PSU model. 

[Johnny Who]

It is in PC spec in my post. But it's a Corsair RM650x 

[hollyh88]

On 7/8/2023 at 4:45 PM, Johnny Who said:

I know the discussion on the cards themselves has been had many times by now. But i am looking to upgrade but with my 650W PSU i am struggling a bit with the decision.

 

PC Spec:

• R7 3700x
• 32GB Ram
• RTX2060 6GB
• Corsair RM650x

If i had to purely choose on the card themselves, i would go with the 6950, but with my PSU i worry that it probably won't work out well without a PSU upgrade. So in that sense 4070 would be a better option but the whole Vram discussion lately has me worried about that.

 

So my options is a 4070 for €659 or a 6950 for €659 + €160 PSU850w. So basically 4070 for €695 vs a 6950 for €819. My conclusion at the moment is that the extra 160 euro for a PSU to make the 6950 work will counter any price/performance benefits the 6950 has.

 

 

 

i was in the same situation as yourself. However the 20%~ more performance and 4gb more vram pushed me towards the 6950xt. It is a really great gpu and the extra power really doesnt matter cost wise if your already looking at a 600 euro gpu. 

so my 6950xt is currently running on a costum cool bios i made cause the summer heat can be a bit relentless.
so im currently running at 1170mV and -5% on the power. 

so to give you some info on how it runs in games:
1440p with a 5800x3d and 32gb (16x2) of memory at 3600 c18

in rdr2 with max settings (basically everything to ultra and all the sliders to the right quality wise besides water physics which is around 75%) and with fsr q its taking about 270wats. And getting around 90 fps. 

in ark survival evolved at high and some settings to epic its drawing also around 270 watts. while getting around 80-200 fps dependent on location.

in battlefield 4 its drawing between 150 and 200 watts but i do have it set to max and its hitting the framecap of 200 fps at basically 99% of the time while using only 60-70% of the gpu.

so yea i can easily get the powerdraw down a lot more so you COULD fit it in a 650w psu. no problem. but to get the max it would be better to upgrade it but you can easily do that later on.

also here : 

it shows powerusage and such too

[bramturismo]

Just wanting to throw in my 2 cents here, but depending on how long you want to roll with this GPU, I bought an RX 6800 non-XT, and is so far handling 1440P gaming with ease.