£2000 UK Computer

[C4xy]

Budget (including currency): ~£2000

Country: UK (Northern Ireland)

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Used for gaming only: apex legends, stellaris, starfield, other AAA and strategy games.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

I currently have a 1080p monitor but was thinking about upgrading to a 1440p one. I want to upgrade because im noticing that recent AAA games are having a hard time running at ultra settings on my 1060. I prefer nvidia so I was thinking of going for a 4070ti for raytracing and dlss support. I'm not sure what ram to get between ddr4 and ddr5

 

What i think:

i5 13600k

4070ti

not sure what motherboard becausae im not sure if ddr4 or ddr5

32gb DDR4 3200Mhz (vengeance) OR G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB Series (Intel XMP) 32GB 6400

Corsair RM750x 750W

 

Currently have:

i5 7600

1060 6gb

16gb DDR4 26666

[GeorgeMKane]

15 minutes ago, C4xy said:

Budget (including currency): ~£2000

Country: UK (Northern Ireland)

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Used for gaming only: apex legends, stellaris, starfield, other AAA and strategy games.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

I currently have a 1080p monitor but was thinking about upgrading to a 1440p one. I want to upgrade because im noticing that recent AAA games are having a hard time running at ultra settings on my 1060. I prefer nvidia so I was thinking of going for a 4070ti for raytracing and dlss support. I'm not sure what ram to get between ddr4 and ddr5

 

What i think:

i5 13600k

4070ti

not sure what motherboard becausae im not sure if ddr4 or ddr5

32gb DDR4 3200Mhz (vengeance) OR G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB Series (Intel XMP) 32GB 6400

Corsair RM750x 750W

 

Currently have:

i5 7600

1060 6gb

16gb DDR4 26666

If you already have a good AIO cpu cooler or something similar, disregard the suggested cooler I put in the list. Go for a 850W PSU then.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RtDQjZ

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (£299.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler  (£79.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£169.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£74.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£48.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  (£779.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£79.81 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  (£328.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
£1862.67

[PC HEROES]

16 minutes ago, C4xy said:

Budget (including currency): ~£2000

Country: UK (Northern Ireland)

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Used for gaming only: apex legends, stellaris, starfield, other AAA and strategy games.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

I currently have a 1080p monitor but was thinking about upgrading to a 1440p one. I want to upgrade because im noticing that recent AAA games are having a hard time running at ultra settings on my 1060. I prefer nvidia so I was thinking of going for a 4070ti for raytracing and dlss support. I'm not sure what ram to get between ddr4 and ddr5

 

What i think:

i5 13600k

4070ti

not sure what motherboard becausae im not sure if ddr4 or ddr5

32gb DDR4 3200Mhz (vengeance) OR G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB Series (Intel XMP) 32GB 6400

Corsair RM750x 750W

 

Currently have:

i5 7600

1060 6gb

16gb DDR4 26666

Hello, I have the perfect PC here for you. This PC will play any game you want and do tons more at the same time. This is one of the best gaming PCs you could ever hope for right now.

 

I have been Building PCs for 30 years so if you have any questions please ask.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/s3YRfv

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£262.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£61.78 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570S AORUS MASTER ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£301.19 @ Newegg UK)
Memory: Kingston Fury Renegade RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (£88.39 @ Box Limited)
Storage: Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£117.95 @ Box Limited)
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (£949.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: GameMax F15M Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (£67.99 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: Gigabyte P850GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£83.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £1933.28

[Why_Me]

Here's a build that includes a 180Hz IPS G-Sync compatible gaming monitor. That 120mm Arctic fan goes inside the back of that case for a rear exhaust fan.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£359.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (£57.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£169.97 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£107.48 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£95.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: *MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (£579.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (£76.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: *Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£109.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  (£99.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£9.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Monitor: *Gigabyte G24F 2 23.8" 1920 x 1080 180 Hz Monitor  (£149.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Total: £1815.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-01 22:22 BST+0100

 

A better look at those components. 

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/G24F-2#kf

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI 

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230491/intel-core-i713700f-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AG620-BK-ARGB-Dual-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16082.shtml  

 

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/rgb-black-tg-clear-tint/  

 

 

[Why_Me]

This leaves you room in your budget to add a 1440 gaming monitor.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (£276.30 @ Box Limited) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (£57.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£139.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (£66.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£95.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: *MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  (£779.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (£76.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: *NZXT C850 (2022) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£106.00 @ MoreCoCo) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  (£99.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£9.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Total: £1707.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-01 22:44 BST+0100

[C4xy]

18 hours ago, PC HEROES said:

Hello, I have the perfect PC here for you. This PC will play any game you want and do tons more at the same time. This is one of the best gaming PCs you could ever hope for right now.

 

I have been Building PCs for 30 years so if you have any questions please ask.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/s3YRfv

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£262.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£61.78 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570S AORUS MASTER ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£301.19 @ Newegg UK)
Memory: Kingston Fury Renegade RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (£88.39 @ Box Limited)
Storage: Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£117.95 @ Box Limited)
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (£949.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: GameMax F15M Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (£67.99 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: Gigabyte P850GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£83.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £1933.28

is the 5800x3D not a big bottleneck

[PC HEROES]

1 hour ago, C4xy said:

is the 5800x3D not a big bottleneck

This is actually really really good. There is no Bottleneck. The 5800X3D pairs fantastic with the 7900XTX.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, C4xy said:

is the 5800x3D not a big bottleneck

I would be more concerned with spending £300 on a motherboard for an end of life platform. A more sensible option would be something like a Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite V2 for £100ish. Just bought the same board myself and it will easily handle any AM4 cpu. If you are going to shell out the best part of £600 on a cpu/board then you might as well go with AM5.

[C4xy]

42 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

I would be more concerned with spending £300 on a motherboard for an end of life platform. A more sensible option would be something like a Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite V2 for £100ish. Just bought the same board myself and it will easily handle any AM4 cpu. If you are going to shell out the best part of £600 on a cpu/board then you might as well go with AM5.

would am5 make more sense overall for that build

[Guest]

1 hour ago, C4xy said:

would am5 make more sense overall for that build

If you don't need the monitor as part of the £2000 budget then yes.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£290.65 @ NeoComputers) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE WHITE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£45.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£209.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£105.62 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£95.98 @ Box Limited) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING TRIO CLASSIC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (£959.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£89.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: NZXT C850 (2022) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£106.00 @ MoreCoCo) 
Total: £1903.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-02 18:04 BST+0100

[C4xy]

47 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

If you don't need the monitor as part of the £2000 budget then yes.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£290.65 @ NeoComputers) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE WHITE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£45.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£209.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£105.62 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£95.98 @ Box Limited) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING TRIO CLASSIC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (£959.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£89.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: NZXT C850 (2022) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£106.00 @ MoreCoCo) 
Total: £1903.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-02 18:04 BST+0100

any reason for the 7900xtx over a 3070ti

[Why_Me]

4 minutes ago, C4xy said:

any reason for the 7900xtx over a 3070ti

 

[filpo]

29 minutes ago, C4xy said:

any reason for the 7900xtx over a 3070ti

We can get a 7800X3D in this budget 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MdnMPX

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£406.96 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE WHITE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£45.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£209.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (£103.43 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£90.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (£949.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£65.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Power Supply: Corsair HX850 Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£117.54 @ Box Limited) 
Total: £1987.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-02 19:25 BST+0100

[C4xy]

1 hour ago, Why_Me said:

 

what about dlss is it worth the premium or no?

[filpo]

3 minutes ago, C4xy said:

what about dlss is it worth the premium or no?

FSR (which is AMDs alternative) is basically as good as it

[C4xy]

11 minutes ago, filpo said:

FSR (which is AMDs alternative) is basically as good as it

It says "These parts have potential issues or incompatibilities" in relation to the bios. Can i upgrade the bios without a cpu as i dont have a spare am5 cpu?

[Why_Me]

16 minutes ago, filpo said:

FSR (which is AMDs alternative) is basically as good as it

Since when?

[Why_Me]

25 minutes ago, C4xy said:

what about dlss is it worth the premium or no?

DLSS 3 is as good as it gets if you're into that thing. If you're into pure raster then the 7900 XT is a good choice for 1440 if you can get that card for around the same price as the 4070 Ti.  If you're looking at high frame rates for 1080P then the 4070 is a tough card to beat.

[filpo]

13 minutes ago, C4xy said:

It says "These parts have potential issues or incompatibilities" in relation to the bios. Can i upgrade the bios without a cpu as i dont have a spare am5 cpu?

It’ll work dw

 

8 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

Since when?

in terms of performance it’s on par. Image quality might be a different story but they won’t be too different 

[thewelshbrummie]

On 7/1/2023 at 1:31 PM, C4xy said:

What i think:

i5 13600k

4070ti

not sure what motherboard becausae im not sure if ddr4 or ddr5

32gb DDR4 3200Mhz (vengeance) OR G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB Series (Intel XMP) 32GB 6400

Corsair RM750x 750W

 

Currently have:

i5 7600

1060 6gb

16gb DDR4 26666

Reasonable selection of parts, though if going Nvidia I'd probably save the ~£200 and get the vanilla 4070 and not the TI version. It will be good enough for now to play at 2560x1440 and it leaves you more cash to save or spend elsewhere. Especially since the 4070Ti has the same 12GB VRAM, I really don't think it's worth the extra when it really should have more VRAM for the money (and clearly Nvidia were hoping to sell the Ti for even more money as the 12GB 4080).

 

The 7900XTX isn't a bad choice but it's £200 more than the 4070Ti and power consumption of current AMD cards is a concern. And AMD's product page points you to a minimum PSU of 800W. It's 70W for the 4070Ti, 650W for the 4070. Nvidia's PSU requirements assume a 5900X. The 13600K can use more power - not comparing like with like but a 5900X has a default TDP of 105W, the 13600K a max TDP of 181W - so a 750W PSU should be OK for a 4070 but leaves you with little headroom. If you're really set on the 4070Ti... go 850W or more.

 

If you're considering a 13600K then a 4070 is a sensible choice. As for RAM, I'd go with DDR5 - DDR4 is cheaper now but you're not going to be able to reuse it should you rebuild in 5 years time or so. Whether that matters is subjective and considering you already have 16GB DDR4 and clearly don't want to reuse that RAM... it suggests that upgrade paths aren't strictly relevant.

 

Something to keep in mind is that most posts tend to assume you're budget is fixed or is what you want to spend and then suggest parts lists to fill that budget. Obviously you're perfectly entitled to ignore that (including this post if you wish) and just save some money which I think would actually be the better choice if you don't want to go beyond a 4070Ti.

9 hours ago, filpo said:

FSR (which is AMDs alternative) is basically as good as it

This is an utterly subjective opinion and most results I've read suggest you're wrong. Whether it's relevant to the OP is the question - tbh I personally focus on pure rasterisation performance vs DLSS, specifically due to some artefacting I've experienced on older F1 games where I had DLSS enabled (when I don't need it).  I really wouldn't focus on DLSS/FSR performance and look at pure rasterisation numbers to decide on which GPU to go for.

13 hours ago, lee32uk said:

I would be more concerned with spending £300 on a motherboard for an end of life platform.

Very sensible comment. Ryzen 5000 CPUs are great, but the platform no longer has an upgrade path so I'd avoid AM4 for a newbuild. To an extent the same can be said for Intel (even allowing for the latest 14th gen rumours to be a Raptor Lake refresh that's socket compatible) - the difference for me is DDR5 support and that you could reuse that in a few years time, whereas I'm confident in saying that Intel won't support DDR4 on Meteor Lake and beyond based on past precedent (6th/7th gen supported both DDR3&4, prior to that DDR4, since 8th gen DDR4 only. Same thing happened in late stage LGA775 and Core 2 CPUs - 1st gen Core i series never supported DDR2, or any DDR3 module that required more than 1.65V).

 

tbh I'd go DDR5 now and at least it gives you the option to reuse it in the future (it will likely still be relevant in 5 years time). That certainly won't be the case with DDR4.