Is the 4070 Ti a reasonable buy as a 'budget' 4K gaming card?

[KyberKylo77]

Im upgrading to a 4K 144Hz display soon so I'll have to also upgrade my graphics card. I'm not really looking at the used market because I've been that route (RTX 3080) and I've had bad experiences with sellers. Am considering a 4070 Ti because DLSS 3.0 looks pretty promising and I think itll last me a few years but I'm worried about the low memory bandwidth holding it back since it seems to affect performance at 4K. Any thoughts?

[Dedayog]

I wouldn't game at 4K, requirements are too steep.  The 4070Ti needs tricks to perform at 4K well, and as you mentioned the VRAM is an issue.

 

Unless you can afford 4K, don't 4K.

 

4070Ti is a half ass attempt.

[KyberKylo77]

7 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

I wouldn't game at 4K, requirements are too steep.  The 4070Ti needs tricks to perform at 4K well, and as you mentioned the VRAM is an issue.

 

Unless you can afford 4K, don't 4K.

 

4070Ti is a half ass attempt.

I don't really have a choice though because im getting a 4K monitor so I'm pretty much forced to game at 4k unless I run the games at 1080p on the 4K display. 

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, KyberKylo77 said:

I don't really have a choice though because im getting a 4K monitor so I'm pretty much forced to game at 4k unless I run the games at 1080p on the 4K display. 

Which you can do without issue.

 

Also, I am sorry someone is forcing you to get a 4K display.  Is it a threat of violence or are they a master/teacher and it's part of some learning experience?

[KyberKylo77]

1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

Which you can do without issue.

 

Also, I am sorry someone is forcing you to get a 4K display.  Is it a threat of violence or are they a master/teacher and it's part of some learning experience?

Nah dawg that would literally look like ass especially on a larger display so I wouldn't say i could do it without issue. Oh nono, theyre forcing me to GAME at 4K

[Dedayog]

15 minutes ago, KyberKylo77 said:

Nah dawg that would literally look like ass especially on a larger display so I wouldn't say i could do it without issue. Oh nono, theyre forcing me to GAME at 4K

Well, give the 4070Ti a shot.  I'd personally use a 7900xtx or 4080/4090 for 4K gaming, but the tricks may help and setting tweaks.

[Alex Atkin UK]

18 minutes ago, KyberKylo77 said:

Nah dawg that would literally look like ass especially on a larger display so I wouldn't say i could do it without issue. Oh nono, theyre forcing me to GAME at 4K

Well it obviously depends on your budget, if you can afford a 4080 especially an FE card (given they're easier to physically fit in a case) then that should at least mitigate against those games that have memory bandwidth issues on the 4070 Ti.

If you don't care about raytracing and the games you play don't do DLSS then maybe AMD?

Its just really hard to predict if memory bandwidth will become more of an issue any time soon.  Here's a good example of a current issue that pushes VRAM (focused on capacity but bandwidth is surely a factor too).

[KyberKylo77]

1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

Well, give the 4070Ti a shot.  I'd personally use a 7900xtx or 4080/4090 for 4K gaming, but the tricks may help and setting tweaks.

Yeaa I might give the RTX 4070 ti a shot but it seems like in a lot of games the rtx 3080 gets similar or more frames. The 4070 ti only pulls ahead with DLSS 3.0 which is a shame tbh but oh well.

[FK3]

I recently built a new system and used a PNY XLR8 4070 Ti as the GPU.  I can say that for 1440p gaming at medium to high settings it was okay to great, depending on the title.  However, when the Resident Evil 4 Remake was released, I played for about 3 hours before I decided to change my GPU before the return period expired.  It has since been swapped for a Powercolor Red Devil 7900 XTX, and even after having to add another $200 to cover the difference, I am glad I did.

 

The 4070 Ti was not a bad card, or even a bad value in my opinion.  The change to the 7900 XTX was simply put, a better value and ultimately a better choice.  As far as a 3080 or a 4070 Ti, I can say that my previous card was a 3080, and the 4070 Ti, not only moved me to the new platform, to take advantage of future advances and driver changes that the 30 series cards may not take advantage of, but the performance did feel smoother, and it did run cooler.

[umbles]

7 hours ago, KyberKylo77 said:

I don't really have a choice though because im getting a 4K monitor so I'm pretty much forced to game at 4k unless I run the games at 1080p on the 4K display. 

I use NIS on my 4k tv. Just do an overall upscale from 1440p to 4k. (I think RSR works on NVidia cards too, but I don't think it's any better)

[Winterlight]

Depends. This GPU can run very well at 4K if you play games that support DLSS 3.0
I have 4070 Ti and can run no problem over 100 FPS Hogwarts Legacy at 4K Ultra without RT or High + all RT ON but need use DLSS Performance that still do very good upscale due game rendering at 1080p that is higher resolution than use Quality at 1440p and frame generation ON.
A lot people misleading that this GPU can't run 4K AAA game and they are right if you want run without any upscale and frame generation OFF

And you don't need use Ultra settings is stupid anyway. Ultra settings make no visual difference that would worth and have massive performance penalty in some case Ultra can drop your FPS even more than RT ON.

Just use High settings DLSS and frame generation and that GPU run no problem any new AAA game at 4K

But if you want play games without any upscale or frame generation than is bad choose.

[KyberKylo77]

15 hours ago, FK3 said:

I recently built a new system and used a PNY XLR8 4070 Ti as the GPU.  I can say that for 1440p gaming at medium to high settings it was okay to great, depending on the title.  However, when the Resident Evil 4 Remake was released, I played for about 3 hours before I decided to change my GPU before the return period expired.  It has since been swapped for a Powercolor Red Devil 7900 XTX, and even after having to add another $200 to cover the difference, I am glad I did.

 

The 4070 Ti was not a bad card, or even a bad value in my opinion.  The change to the 7900 XTX was simply put, a better value and ultimately a better choice.  As far as a 3080 or a 4070 Ti, I can say that my previous card was a 3080, and the 4070 Ti, not only moved me to the new platform, to take advantage of future advances and driver changes that the 30 series cards may not take advantage of, but the performance did feel smoother, and it did run cooler.

I would actually consider AMD but for some reason AMD cards are quite overpriced here so they're out of my budget. Was the RTX 4070 Ti an upgrade over your 3080 even with pure rasterization performance? I've seen that in some games the 3080 beats the 4070 ti in 4K (without FG or RT) like plague tale requiem for example, which is why i'm pretty reluctant to get it for 4K gaming. On 1440p it seems to close the gaps though so the memory bandwidth has to be bottlenecking it. 

[starsmine]

20 hours ago, KyberKylo77 said:

I don't really have a choice though because im getting a 4K monitor so I'm pretty much forced to game at 4k unless I run the games at 1080p on the 4K display. 

modern games all have DLSS or FSR if they need that ram/horse power.

You will be fine. yes 4k native it will struggle on a couple of games. but its just that, a couple. and games to old to have DLSS/FSR implementations will run at 4k native FINE. 

The 7900xtx is a better buy. but there is absolutly nothing wrong with going with the 4070ti and it will meet/exceed your needs. 

Ignore DLSS 3.0 though. Its current state is useless. you get more input lag then dlss 2.0 and sometimes worse then native. for more artifacting frames? 
Half of the point of higher FPS is better reactivity to your inputs, not just motion clarity (and it does not even get that)

[Winterlight]

56 minutes ago, starsmine said:

Ignore DLSS 3.0 though. Its current state is useless. you get more input lag then dlss 2.0 and sometimes worse then native. for more artifacting frames? 

Yes you get more input lag but do you really should care 20ms or 30ms for example ? Especially in single player games and DLSS 3.0 is unseful if GPU can't render at least 30 real FPS as bare minium and even then is not best experience to make DLSS 3.0 work you actualy still need power to rendering at least 60 real FPS. For example I play Hogwarts Legacy and without frame generation FPS is not very good playble but not best experience while with frame generation can enjoy smooth ~120 FPS without any noticeable artefacts in game. Btw frame generation benefit that is at all not depends from CPU and is very useful in game that you have CPU bottleneck and don't forget that you still can use DLSS 2.0 and on top that DLSS 3.0 that is two diference things.

[Gaires]

Look at the prices of 3080 and 3090, since the 4070 ti performs about the same as them at 4k so if you can find those cards for cheaper they can be better buys, if your PSU can handle them, since the 3000 series had those really bad power spikes.

 

As for DLSS3, it took quiet a while for DLSS2 to become a thing and I doubt the third one will overtake it anytime soon since it's only supported by the 4000-series.