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RevGAM
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I do video editing, although not at the level that Tech Notice does, for my YT channels, and I'd like to know what people think about the advice he's given here. It's a year old but I feel like it's still relevant...And, now I'm thinking that I need a NAS.

 

Please advise.

I've been using computers since around 1978, started learning programming in 1980 on Apple IIs, started learning about hardware in 1990, ran a BBS from 1990-95, built my first Windows PC around 2000, taught myself malware removal starting in 2005 (also learned on Bleeping Computer), learned web dev starting in 2017, and I think I can fill a thimble with all that knowledge. 😉 I'm not an expert, which is why I keep investigating the answers that others give to try and improve my knowledge, so feel free to double-check the advice I give.

My phone's auto-correct is named Otto Rong.🤪😂

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58 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

I do video editing, although not at the level that Tech Notice does, for my YT channels, and I'd like to know what people think about the advice he's given here. It's a year old but I feel like it's still relevant...And, now I'm thinking that I need a NAS.

 

Please advise.

depends on how much storage you need. Do you need a lot of storage? A NAS might be the best for you

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25 minutes ago, filpo said:

depends on how much storage you need. Do you need a lot of storage? A NAS might be the best for you

I've already filled up a few drives and lost some data because I didn't have redundant storage. I'm adding 2 more channels, too.

 

What should I expect to pay for one? Are they easy to build?

I've been using computers since around 1978, started learning programming in 1980 on Apple IIs, started learning about hardware in 1990, ran a BBS from 1990-95, built my first Windows PC around 2000, taught myself malware removal starting in 2005 (also learned on Bleeping Computer), learned web dev starting in 2017, and I think I can fill a thimble with all that knowledge. 😉 I'm not an expert, which is why I keep investigating the answers that others give to try and improve my knowledge, so feel free to double-check the advice I give.

My phone's auto-correct is named Otto Rong.🤪😂

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2 hours ago, RevGAM said:

What should I expect to pay for one? Are they easy to build?

im not very educated in this field but if I'm not wrong they are (relatively) expensive but easy to build (im talking about the pre-built NAS). a custom NAS will also be easy and cheap if you are not planning to put the thing in RAID but if im not wrong, z690 can do RAID one or RAID 2 so there should be no problems there?

 

so as far as i know, you can get one of those pre built NAS and just throw a couple of hard drives in there(make sure it has RAID support)

or

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LQ4G9r

and just use software RAID on the hard drives (that you will add). in this build you can add up to 8 hard drives but you can increase that amount by getting a different case and adding a PCIe to SATA card(do note that the fire cuda drive is only there to act as a boot/ OS and software drive and not for cashing or RAID)

 

DON'T TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY, I AM VERY UNEDUCATED IN THIS FIELD

 

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4 hours ago, RevGAM said:

It's a year old but I feel like it's still relevant...And, now I'm thinking that I need a NAS.

 

The 3 drive organization for content creation work came about in the age of HDD. It spreads i/o over three relatively slow storage channels resulting in a more responsive editing experience. It is still recommended today by professionals. But I'm not sure how much of this is because that's the way it has always been vs a continuing need to spread i/o load accross multiple channels.

 

My suspicion is that for those that work with large 4K & 8K content, spreading the load accross multiple channels still makes sense. But given the much higher bandwidth of PCIe 4.0 NVMe drives probably doesn't contribute any noticeable improvement for shorter 1K and 2K content. I haven't seen any recent studies in this area, so it remains an open question in my mind.

 

Archive storage is a good idea, even necessary for those that wish / need to retain work product. Using a separate high capacity NAS makes sense for this. It is important to keep in mind that archival storage is not backup.

 

Using a commercial NAS box is certainly the easiest solution. But they can be expensive and rather limited. For those with an unused system lying around, using it as a storage server can keep costs a bit lower and offer more flexibility.

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31 minutes ago, brob said:

 

The 3 drive organization for content creation work came about in the age of HDD. It spreads i/o over three relatively slow storage channels resulting in a more responsive editing experience. It is still recommended today by professionals. But I'm not sure how much of this is because that's the way it has always been vs a continuing need to spread i/o load accross multiple channels.

 

My suspicion is that for those that work with large 4K & 8K content, spreading the load accross multiple channels still makes sense. But given the much higher bandwidth of PCIe 4.0 NVMe drives probably doesn't contribute any noticeable improvement for shorter 1K and 2K content. I haven't seen any recent studies in this area, so it remains an open question in my mind.

 

Archive storage is a good idea, even necessary for those that wish / need to retain work product. Using a separate high capacity NAS makes sense for this. It is important to keep in mind that archival storage is not backup.

 

Using a commercial NAS box is certainly the easiest solution. But they can be expensive and rather limited. For those with an unused system lying around, using it as a storage server can keep costs a bit lower and offer more flexibility.

Thanks for the response! If there's no current data saying it's still important to have 4 drives, but there's nothing saying it's a bad idea, it can't hurt, though, right?

 

I've never built a server or NAS, so tips are welcome. 

I've been using computers since around 1978, started learning programming in 1980 on Apple IIs, started learning about hardware in 1990, ran a BBS from 1990-95, built my first Windows PC around 2000, taught myself malware removal starting in 2005 (also learned on Bleeping Computer), learned web dev starting in 2017, and I think I can fill a thimble with all that knowledge. 😉 I'm not an expert, which is why I keep investigating the answers that others give to try and improve my knowledge, so feel free to double-check the advice I give.

My phone's auto-correct is named Otto Rong.🤪😂

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55 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Thanks for the response! If there's no current data saying it's still important to have 4 drives, but there's nothing saying it's a bad idea, it can't hurt, though, right?

 

I've never built a server or NAS, so tips are welcome. 

 

As long as system, projects, and cache are NVMe it should not negatively impact performance. It would be a mistake to use HDD for any of the three and using SATA SSD would impact performance. The only real negative is added cost.

 

If you want to build a storage server (NAS) the easiest way to get started is to use an existing NAS package like TrueNAS Core (formerly FreeNAS). An internet search will turn up a number of other options.

 

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1 hour ago, brob said:

 

As long as system, projects, and cache are NVMe it should not negatively impact performance. It would be a mistake to use HDD for any of the three and using SATA SSD would impact performance. The only real negative is added cost.

 

If you want to build a storage server (NAS) the easiest way to get started is to use an existing NAS package like TrueNAS Core (formerly FreeNAS). An internet search will turn up a number of other options.

 

Would you mind rustling up an example build for a NAS, please?

I've been using computers since around 1978, started learning programming in 1980 on Apple IIs, started learning about hardware in 1990, ran a BBS from 1990-95, built my first Windows PC around 2000, taught myself malware removal starting in 2005 (also learned on Bleeping Computer), learned web dev starting in 2017, and I think I can fill a thimble with all that knowledge. 😉 I'm not an expert, which is why I keep investigating the answers that others give to try and improve my knowledge, so feel free to double-check the advice I give.

My phone's auto-correct is named Otto Rong.🤪😂

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43 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Would you mind rustling up an example build for a NAS, please?

 

Far to many unknowns. 

 

 

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