Z97??

[Gauzl]

What's with all these Z97 motherboards coming to market? What CPU's are they for?

[SAV1OUR]

most of them are all out but theres a "ETA" for the cpus in 2 weeks 

[Createinator]

What's with all these Z97 motherboards coming to market? What CPU's are they for?

They support the current generation Haswell CPU, the upcoming Haswell Refresh CPUs codenamed Devil's Canyon and the next generation Broadwell CPUs slated to be released in 2015.

[Gauzl]

most of them are all out but theres a "ETA" for the cpus in 2 weeks

Is that the new 8 core Haswell CPU's?

[SAV1OUR]

Is that the new 8 core Haswell CPU's?

no thats x99 

[seiny]

Sata express!

[Gauzl]

They support the current generation Haswell CPU, the upcoming Haswell Refresh CPUs codenamed Devil's Canyon and the next generation Broadwell CPUs slated to be released in 2015.

Upgrading from a 4770K to the first broadwell CPUs would be a complete waste wouldn't it?

[ERSCreeper]

Upgrading from a 4770K to the first broadwell CPUs would be a complete waste wouldn't it?

Pretty much unless they magically made them way better but it is normally around 5-10% improvement.

[Gauzl]

Pretty much unless they magically made them way better but it is normally around 5-10% improvement.

I foolishly made the mistake of upgrading from a 3770K to a 4770K, and the 3770K turned out to be a better over clocker, a mistake I won't make again.

[ERSCreeper]

I foolishly made the mistake of upgrading from a 3770K to a 4770K, and the 3770K turned out to be a better over clocker, a mistake I won't make again.

Sadly many people did. I will only upgrade my 3750K when it's Skylake or past that.

[TheDigitalRealm]

Pretty much unless they magically made them way better but it is normally around 5-10% improvement.

Erm No, unfortunately not, this time. That's when they actually either have a die shrink or change the achitecture of the CPU. This time neither is happening. Literally all that's changed with the CPU is they'll supposedly be better over-clockers. We can infer that they're soldering the IHS now, instead of using the crappy thermal compound/paste they have been for the past two generations.

[ERSCreeper]

Erm No, unfortunately not, this time. That's when they actually either have a die shrink or change the achitechture of the CPU. This time neither is happening. Literally all that's changed with the CPU is they'll supposedly be better over-clockers. We can infer that they're soldering the IHS now, instead of using the crappy thermal compound/paste they have been for the past two generations.

Long story short, no real improvement. GG Intel.

[TheDigitalRealm]

I foolishly made the mistake of upgrading from a 3770K to a 4770K, and the 3770K turned out to be a better over clocker, a mistake I won't make again.

I'm glad I didn't upgrade from my 3770K. 5GHz @ 1.32V and 4.9GHz @ 1.27V with temperatures never exceeding 65 degrees in games using a H100i.

[Createinator]

Upgrading from a 4770K to the first broadwell CPUs would be a complete waste wouldn't it?

Unless you upgrade from 2 Generations behind, any upgrade in performance will not be felt unless you abuse your CPU at 100% usage at regular basis. Small gains of 5-10% are not enough to make a switch for a purely gaming and light productivity usage machine.

[Gauzl]

I'm glad I didn't upgrade from my 3770K. 5GHz @ 1.32V and 4.9GHz @ 1.27V with temperatures never exceeding 65 degrees in games using a H100i.

You're so lucky, my 4770k isn't even stable at 4.2ghz at 1.32v and it hits 70C while doing stability tests.

[Ober1kenobi]

Upgrading from a 4770K to the first broadwell CPUs would be a complete waste wouldn't it?

depends on what you need it for and how much of an improvement it will actually be

[TheDigitalRealm]

You're so lucky, my 4770k isn't even stable at 4.2ghz at 1.32v and it hits 70C while doing stability tests.

Ouch. I guess you are the target consumer Intel is trying to sell Devils Canyon to then. I'm skeptical as to how much of a difference the soldered IHS will really make. I think the terrible over-clocking on Haswell is more to do with the 14nm process used rather than the TIM they used on last gen Haswell.

[Gauzl]

Ouch. I guess you are the target consumer Intel is trying to sell Devils Canyon to then. I'm skeptical as to how much of a difference the soldered IHS will really make. I think the terrible over-clocking on Haswell is more to do with the 14nm process used rather than the TIM they used on last gen Haswell.

Depending on how much I can benefit from overclocking while playing games and with 2 GTX 780's I just might fall for their trap.

[TheDigitalRealm]

Depending on how much I can benefit from overclocking while playing games and with 2 GTX 780's I just might fall for their trap.

You won't see any benefit. Maybe a 1 or 2 fps.