Will there be Ryzen 7000 actual APUs ?

[Hi P]

Something like "Ryzen 7700G" or will new APUs arrive on 8000 series?

[191x7]

All Zen4 and newer are APU-s.

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[DonGirses]

1 minute ago, -rascal- said:

I guess they mean capable graphics...

[Hi P]

1 minute ago, DonGirses said:

I guess they mean capable graphics...

Yeah lol

[YoungBlade]

I have seen rumors of Ryzen 7000 series APUs, but so far only rumors. If the previous APUs are anything to go by, they will be part of a mid-cycle refresh and basically be overclocked laptop chips - presumably from the 7X40 series of laptop chips.

 

What I'm really hoping for is a 4c/8t Ryzen 3 7300G for around $120. Such a chip would be amazing. But I doubt we'll see it as AMD has little need to offer budget choices.

[-rascal-]

9 minutes ago, DonGirses said:

I guess they mean capable graphics...

 

8 minutes ago, Hi P said:

Yeah lol

 

Ohhh I see.
Yeah, the iGPU on the 7000-series is like 1/2 the performance vs.... 5600G.
 

 

Supposedly there should / could be a Ryzen 7000G series, but nothing has been confirmed on the Desktop side.

On the LAPTOP side, there IS something like this.

The Ryzen 7045 series. It is Zen4 + 12x RNDA3 GPU clusters (vs Desktop 7000-series with only 2x RDNA3 GPU clusters) 
Marketed as a thin-light iGPU gaming.
 

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/01/amds-ryzen-7000-laptop-cpu-lineup-is-a-bewildering-patchwork-of-old-and-new/

 

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Be neat if they did something like a special high performance graphic skew, call it the Ryzen XGxxT just to make sure we get our fill of x's, with how small the chiplets are getting and the lga socket type they could definitely fit a decent GPU die on there, even if it could do 1080 1080ti ish performance would be sweet option for people doing small form builds 

[starsmine]

@Hi P
Yes, there will be zen 4 APUs on both desktop and laptop
Two lines Dragon range and Pheonix. 

Dragon range will use the same multichip package that you know and love, it is rumored that at some point it will be an actual APU as in use the second die space to be a gpu, but as of now, we do not know if they will ever be launched, the only variants that are confirmed to that exist only have the 2 rnda 2 CUs

Pheonix will be monolithic apu style of old
Pheonix is 4nm(varient of 5nm, like what ADA lovelace uses).

We do not have the specific line ups for when pheonix will be on desktop, or if dragon range will ever get desktop varients that actually matter. 

But that is the line up of Pheonix APUs that will be available begining in march.

As for the people calling all of zen 4 an apu cause it has 2 CUs.... nah bruh thats not what an APU is. Here we get 12, or 8 CUs of RDNA 3
7900 xtx has 96CUs for reference.

Pheonix also has this weirdness

[Alex Atkin UK]

9 minutes ago, starsmine said:

But that is the line up of Pheonix APUs that will be available begining in march.

As for the people calling all of zen 4 an apu cause it has 2 CUs.... nah bruh thats not what an APU is. Here we get 12, or 8 CUs of RDNA 3
7900 xtx has 96CUs for reference.

Pheonix also has this weirdness

How is it weird?  Apple and Intel have AI in their chips, AMD just went one step further in putting tech they got from Xilinx into theirs which from the above I assume is 35% faster.

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1 hour ago, starsmine said:

@Hi P
Yes, there will be zen 4 APUs on both desktop and laptop
Two lines Dragon range and Pheonix. 

Dragon range will use the same multichip package that you know and love, it is rumored that at some point it will be an actual APU as in use the second die space to be a gpu, but as of now, we do not know if they will ever be launched, the only variants that are confirmed to that exist only have the 2 rnda 2 CUs

Pheonix will be monolithic apu style of old
Pheonix is 4nm(varient of 5nm, like what ADA lovelace uses).

We do not have the specific line ups for when pheonix will be on desktop, or if dragon range will ever get desktop varients that actually matter. 

But that is the line up of Pheonix APUs that will be available begining in march.

As for the people calling all of zen 4 an apu cause it has 2 CUs.... nah bruh thats not what an APU is. Here we get 12, or 8 CUs of RDNA 3
7900 xtx has 96CUs for reference.

Pheonix also has this weirdness

Not enough x's