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Stuttering and Tearing

Donut417

Im having issues with stuttering and tearing in Aliens Fire Team and World War Z. Other games like GTA 5, Killing Floor 2 and Valhiem seem to work fine. ARK also has some issues with tearing but I figured its a poorly coded game and thats probably the issues. I should mention Ive only tried this games in multiplayer as these are the games me and my buddies play. 

 

Im trying to determine what the issue is so I can figure out if I need to do to fix it. 

 

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This is my current machine. Windows 10 (22H2) is on the SSD. All my games are on the HDD and SSHD. I should mention both the game drives are a decade or more old at this point. When I built this machine I was kinda out of the gaming scene at the time. So I just threw drives in I had. My friend things Id be better off upgrading to SSD's but I dont think that will solve the issues Im having. Personally I think Im pushing my hardware too hard. Im not sure if the RX5700 was built for 1440p gaming. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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2 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

Im not sure if the RX5700 was built for 1440p gaming. 

If you drop res does it stop stuttering/tearing, that's the simplest test for this problem. Drop settings and/or res, see what changes, if it gets worse then its probably CPU, if it gets better then the GPU just can't handle the resolution you're asking it to.

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3 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

Im having issues with stuttering and tearing in Aliens Fire Team and World War Z. Other games like GTA 5, Killing Floor 2 and Valhiem seem to work fine. ARK also has some issues with tearing but I figured its a poorly coded game and thats probably the issues. I should mention Ive only tried this games in multiplayer as these are the games me and my buddies play. 

 

Im trying to determine what the issue is so I can figure out if I need to do to fix it. 

 

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Storage: Intel 660p 1.02 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($67.24 @ MemoryC) 
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This is my current machine. Windows 10 (22H2) is on the SSD. All my games are on the HDD and SSHD. I should mention both the game drives are a decade or more old at this point. When I built this machine I was kinda out of the gaming scene at the time. So I just threw drives in I had. My friend things Id be better off upgrading to SSD's but I dont think that will solve the issues Im having. Personally I think Im pushing my hardware too hard. Im not sure if the RX5700 was built for 1440p gaming. 

rx 5700 is more of a 1080p card, a cheaper 1440p card would be like a 6700xt for around 350. or a 6650xt for 300

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6 minutes ago, Zando_ said:

If you drop res does it stop stuttering/tearing, that's the simplest test for this problem. Drop settings and/or res, see what changes, if it gets worse then its probably CPU, if it gets better then the GPU just can't handle the resolution you're asking it to.

If I have time Ill screw with it tomorrow. Do I need to load in to the level or do you think using the built in Benchmark tool in WWZ would work? 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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Just now, Donut417 said:

If I have time Ill screw with it tomorrow. Do I need to load in to the level or do you think using the built in Benchmark tool in WWZ would work? 

I'd give that a shot first. If it stutters in the benchmark at current settings then yeah, should be able to notice it not-stutter after changing them.

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Try moving a game to your current SSD and see if it performs better or not - It Should.. that should make a noticeable difference.  If it doesn't then your CPU is the likely culprit.. my roomie had some stuttering and whatnot going on in some games and in Ark with an RTX 2060 and a Ryzen 2600.  Upgraded to a Ryzen 3600 and it significantly smoothed out.. (1440p).

 

As for the tearing - does enabling vsync help?

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21 hours ago, Zando_ said:

If you drop res does it stop stuttering/tearing, that's the simplest test for this problem. Drop settings and/or res, see what changes, if it gets worse then its probably CPU, if it gets better then the GPU just can't handle the resolution you're asking it to.

At 1440P High settings Im getting an average of like 60 FPS, I do still get tearing but I seen in the Radeon Software some kind of alternative to VSync as that did not work. GPU usages never got above 80%, CPU Usage never got above 30%, VRam was a little over half used and Ram was a little over 10 Gigs out of 16. Now this is in the benchmark, mind you. 

 

Im wondering if its internet related now. Im located in Michigan and my buddies live together but are located in Colorado. We are on the same ISP. But im not sure if the traffic stays on the Comcast network or if it has to traverse to a 3rd party network. 

 

If I get time over the weekend I might try to do a single player thing and see if it works the same in an actually level. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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