amd AMD upgrade opinions

[Techno_Magnus]

I am using some low end and some-what outdated motherboard and cpu:

AMD Ryzen 2600x 

Asrock a320m hdv r4

And some mismatched ram

3060 12gb

 

I am on a tight budget, but can stretch a bit depending on what yall say. Which upgrade is a better bang-for-the-buck?

 

AMD Ryzen 5 5600x

Gigabyte b550 Aorus Elite

TridentZ series 2x8 DDR4 

$450

 

OR

 

AMD Ryzen 5 7600x

AsRock b650 pg Lighting

Team T-Force Vulcan 2x8 DDR5

$600

 

[TylerD321]

I’d say the 5600x upgrade is better for bang for the buck whereas the 7600x upgrade is better for upgradability.

 

Either is fine imo, just depends on what you want to spend. I’ve heard ddr5 doesn’t like 2x8 but I am not sure on the specifics.

[Shooterdude34]

3 minutes ago, Techno_Magnus said:

I am using some low end and some-what outdated motherboard and cpu:

AMD Ryzen 2600x 

Asrock a320m hdv r4

And some mismatched ram

I am on a tight budget but can stretch a bit depending.

Which upgrade is a better bang-for-the-buck?

AMD Ryzen 5 5600x

Gigabyte b550 Aorus Elite

TridentZ series 2x8 DDR4 

$550

OR

AMD Ryzen 5 7600x

AsRock b650 pg Lighting

Team T-Force Vulcan 2x8 DDR5

$700

 

in my opinion, going with the 5600x should be more than fine. it should last you for quite a few years, and yes while am4 is eol, whos to say that am5 wont be eol by the time you need to upgrade from the 5600x. 

it will still be a huge upgrade going from 2nd to 5th gen, especially with a better board and better ram.

 

[Pixelfie]

What are the other components and what are you using the pc for? Is future proofing something you care about or do you upgrade often anyway?

 

Also a 5600 is generally much cheaper than a 5600X, but not much slower.

[YoungBlade]

What are you using the computer for and what graphics card do you have?

 

Also, the Ryzen 5 5600(X) doesn't use more power than your 2600X does - it actually uses less - so you could use your current motherboard with a BIOS update.

[RONOTHAN##]

The entire point of sticking to AM4 is to go for an in socket upgrade, so just throwing an R5 5600 into your current board and calling it a day. That will be the best bang for the buck. 

 

If you really want to do a full system upgrade, you can go for a 13600K and DDR4 in that ~$500 price range. That will be better than either of those systems. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rX2PW4

[Techno_Magnus]

6 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

The entire point of sticking to AM4 is to go for an in socket upgrade, so just throwing an R5 5600 into your current board and calling it a day. That will be the best bang for the buck. 

 

If you really want to do a full system upgrade, you can go for a 13600K and DDR4 in that ~$500 price range. That will be better than either of those systems. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rX2PW4

7 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

What are you using the computer for and what graphics card do you have?

 

Also, the Ryzen 5 5600(X) doesn't use more power than your 2600X does - it actually uses less - so you could use your current motherboard with a BIOS update.

My current board needs replaced for other reasons. The ram doesn't work right and the pcie slot is 3rd gen, while my card is 4th

[CommanderAlex]

13 minutes ago, Techno_Magnus said:

I am using some low end and some-what outdated motherboard and cpu:

AMD Ryzen 2600x 

Asrock a320m hdv r4

And some mismatched ram

3060 12gb

 

I am on a tight budget, but can stretch a bit depending on what yall say. Which upgrade is a better bang-for-the-buck?

 

AMD Ryzen 5 5600x

Gigabyte b550 Aorus Elite

TridentZ series 2x8 DDR4 

$450

 

OR

 

AMD Ryzen 5 7600x

AsRock b650 pg Lighting

Team T-Force Vulcan 2x8 DDR5

$600

 

Personally, I'd sell off your current 2600X, motherboard, and RAM to invest that money into the 7600X build to try and keep costs as low as possible. That is the better option imo.

[RONOTHAN##]

2 minutes ago, Techno_Magnus said:

My current board needs replaced for other reasons. The ram doesn't work right and the pcie slot is 3rd gen, while my card is 4th

Not sure about that RAM issue, we'd need more info about that to try and solve it, but the PCIe slot thing genuinely doesn't matter. The only card that has a noticeable performance difference between Gen 3 and Gen 4 is the RX 6500 XT, and that's only because AMD decided 4 PCIe lanes are enough when for running Gen 3 they aren't. For every other GPU the difference is in the 3-5% difference range, not noticeable. 

[YoungBlade]

11 minutes ago, Techno_Magnus said:

My current board needs replaced for other reasons. The ram doesn't work right and the pcie slot is 3rd gen, while my card is 4th

What is the matter with the RAM? It could be an issue related to the 2600X's memory controller - 2nd gen Ryzen wasn't amazing for memory support.

 

As for the PCIe gen, that's almost certainly not an issue unless you happen to have an RX 6500XT or RX 6400, or your particular use-case is highly PCIe bandwidth sensitive - which is quite rare. Even an RTX 4090 doesn't show a meaningful difference between PCIe Gen 4 and Gen 3 in gaming.

[Techno_Magnus]

1 minute ago, YoungBlade said:

What is the matter with the RAM? It could be an issue related to the 2600X's memory controller - 2nd gen Ryzen wasn't amazing for memory support.

 

As for the PCIe gen, that's almost certainly not an issue unless you happen to have an RX 6500XT or RX 6400, or your particular use-case is highly PCIe bandwidth sensitive - which is quite rare. Even an RTX 4090 doesn't show a meaningful difference between PCIe Gen 4 and Gen 3 in gaming.

7 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Not sure about that RAM issue, we'd need more info about that to try and solve it, but the PCIe slot thing genuinely doesn't matter. The only card that has a noticeable performance difference between Gen 3 and Gen 4 is the RX 6500 XT, and that's only because AMD decided 4 PCIe lanes are enough when for running Gen 3 they aren't. For every other GPU the difference is in the 3-5% difference range, not noticeable. 

The Pcie thing, I didn't know about, thanks. The ram proplem I've been having for a little over a year is: One slot is always "hardware reserved". If I put a 4gig stick in the slot away from the processor it and a 16 in the one closest to the processor. I get this:

Leaving me with single channel memory.

[YoungBlade]

4 minutes ago, Techno_Magnus said:

The Pcie thing, I didn't know about, thanks. The ram proplem I've been having for a little over a year is: One slot is always "hardware reserved". If I put a 4gig stick in the slot away from the processor it and a 16 in the one closest to the processor. I get this:

 

Leaving me with single channel memory.

What is the 16GB stick? It might be better to just invest in a matching 16GB module. Then you'd have 32GB of memory and a Ryzen 5 5600 for well under $200.

 

Actually, even if the stick sucks, you could still get a 32GB kit of DDR4-3600 CL16 for just over $100.

[RONOTHAN##]

3 minutes ago, Techno_Magnus said:

The Pcie thing, I didn't know about, thanks. The ram proplem I've been having for a little over a year is: One slot is always "hardware reserved". If I put a 4gig stick in the slot away from the processor it and a 16 in the one closest to the processor. I get this:

Leaving me with single channel memory.

I have seen that a few times back on my old X370 board. This did go away eventually with a BIOS update and reseating the memory a bunch of times, so might be worth trying that. 

[Techno_Magnus]

8 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

What is the 16GB stick? It might be better to just invest in a matching 16GB module. Then you'd have 32GB of memory and a Ryzen 5 5600 for well under $200.

 

Actually, even if the stick sucks, you could still get a 32GB kit of DDR4-3600 CL16 for just over $100.

I originally had G.Skill *Ripjaws 2x8gb sticks, but that left me with only 7.9gb available.

[Techno_Magnus]

2 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

I have seen that a few times back on my old X370 board. This did go away eventually with a BIOS update and reseating the memory a bunch of times, so might be worth trying that. 

Thanks, but I've updated as high as it goes and reseated and replaced them many times.

[YoungBlade]

14 minutes ago, Techno_Magnus said:

Thanks, but I've updated as high as it goes and reseated and replaced them many times.

That sucks. Looks like a platform upgrade really is warranted.

 

What GPU do you have and what are the use cases for your system?

[Techno_Magnus]

9 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

That sucks. Looks like a platform upgrade really is warranted.

 

What GPU do you have and what are the use cases for your system?

MSI 3060 12gb. I use it mainly for games such as: Beamng.Drive, God of War, Read Dead Redemption 2, and I also play VR Games: Half Life Alyx, Boneworks, and No Man's Sky. I also occasionally use it for 3d rendering in Blender.

[hun7er]

How about this combo : 

 

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006230/amd-ryzen-9-7900x,-asus-b650e-f-rog-strix-gaming-wifi,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-combo

[Pixelfie]

15 minutes ago, Techno_Magnus said:

MSI 3060 12gb. I use it mainly for games such as: Beamng.Drive, God of War, Read Dead Redemption 2, and I also play VR Games: Half Life Alyx, Boneworks, and No Man's Sky. I also occasionally use it for 3d rendering in Blender.

In that case the 5600X will be more than enough. But I'd consider the 5600 non X too, it's like 1-2% slower but usually a lot cheaper, and you're not going to notice that with a 3060.

[YoungBlade]

5 minutes ago, hun7er said:

How about this combo : 

 

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006230/amd-ryzen-9-7900x,-asus-b650e-f-rog-strix-gaming-wifi,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-combo

That's crazy good if you're near a Microcenter and it isn't sold out.

 

13 minutes ago, Techno_Magnus said:

MSI 3060 12gb. I use it mainly for games such as: Beamng.Drive, God of War, Read Dead Redemption 2, and I also play VR Games: Half Life Alyx, Boneworks, and No Man's Sky. I also occasionally use it for 3d rendering in Blender.

With that GPU, you're going to be GPU bound most of the time, so an upgrade beyond Ryzen 5000 series probably won't net you any additional performance.

[Techno_Magnus]

11 minutes ago, hun7er said:

How about this combo : 

 

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006230/amd-ryzen-9-7900x,-asus-b650e-f-rog-strix-gaming-wifi,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-combo

Great except no stores near but even if there was its out of stock in all of them.