PC stutters on every game

[ImZigaZz]

Hello everyone,

I have this problem that really grinds my gears. Apex Legends is the game i play the most, but it also happens on wz 2.0.

My system:
Asus Tuf  b450m plus gaming
Ryzen 7 2700 (not X, not OC)
Zotac RTX 2080 (not super, not oc)
2x 8GB DDR4 3200 Corsair Vengeance (DOCP enabled)
SSD samsung 970 evo plus (firmware updated)
PSU is a sesonic gold plus 650w
Monitor Benq xl2411 1080p 144hz plugged via DP
2º monitor is a 60hz HP, 1080p also connected by DP

The temperature of the CPU and GPU never goes more than 85ºc

The problem:

When I'm playing Apex Legends 1080p with everything on the lowest possible quality settings, no v-sync and NVIDIA reflex doesn't matter if its off, on or on+boost, i'm always under 120fps and the worst is that from time to time (but in the same match on every match) it stutter for like 0,5 seconds, the frames drop to like 80, and it really ruins the experience for me and I fell that with the hardware I own and the settings I have it should be butter smooth, am I wrong?

I've used DDU unistaller and have reinstalled the graphics drivers, windows is always updated (windows 11 ATM),, installed only the drivers + the Apex game, the problem still there. BIOS is updated to the last version available on asus website.
I've also disassembled and reassembled all the components to minimize bad connections.
I've also disable DOCP, and even with sotck BIOS the problem remains.
I don't know, what else I can do. Any ideas?

Thanks a lot to those who spend time to read this post
Much Love LTT fam.

[johnno23]

your hardware could be totally fine but software running in the background can cause issue when gaming. Have you checked your start up items to see what apps run automatically at boot ? Do you have one of those free anti virus apps running ? those are simply junk 99% of the time.

you also do not mention if the issue is recent or after an update ?

if after an update trying system restore to an earlier point before the updates ? do you have a back where the games ran properly ?

 

[Bismut]

That's a tough one. Do you have any software in the background, any realistic possibility of viruses?

[BetteBalterZen]

The RTX 2080 targets 83c, then throttles the GPU. If you are always at ~83c, this could mean your PC is overheating, or atleast your GPU is, causing it to throttle and lower performance = lags/stutters. 

What happens if you game and have your sidepanel off? 

[Mark Kaine]

31 minutes ago, ImZigaZz said:

The temperature of the CPU and GPU never goes more than 85ºc

can you try to get this lower by removing the side panels/ front panel and set maximum fan speeds for everything and see if that improves anything? 

 

because thats pretty much throttle temp for most gpus/cpus,  that would also be why it doesn't go higher as the system protects itself from overheating  

.

 

 

16 minutes ago, BetteBalterZen said:

The RTX 2080 targets 83c, then throttles the GPU. If you are always at ~83c, this could mean your PC is overheating, or atleast your GPU is, causing it to throttle and lower performance = lags/stutters. 

^exactly. 

[191x7]

1 hour ago, ImZigaZz said:

Hello everyone,

I have this problem that really grinds my gears. Apex Legends is the game i play the most, but it also happens on wz 2.0.

My system:
Asus Tuf  b450m plus gaming
Ryzen 7 2700 (not X, not OC)
Zotac RTX 2080 (not super, not oc)
2x 8GB DDR4 3200 Corsair Vengeance (DOCP enabled)
SSD samsung 970 evo plus (firmware updated)
PSU is a sesonic gold plus 650w
Monitor Benq xl2411 1080p 144hz plugged via DP
2º monitor is a 60hz HP, 1080p also connected by DP

The temperature of the CPU and GPU never goes more than 85ºc

The problem:

When I'm playing Apex Legends 1080p with everything on the lowest possible quality settings, no v-sync and NVIDIA reflex doesn't matter if its off, on or on+boost, i'm always under 120fps and the worst is that from time to time (but in the same match on every match) it stutter for like 0,5 seconds, the frames drop to like 80, and it really ruins the experience for me and I fell that with the hardware I own and the settings I have it should be butter smooth, am I wrong?

I've used DDU unistaller and have reinstalled the graphics drivers, windows is always updated (windows 11 ATM),, installed only the drivers + the Apex game, the problem still there. BIOS is updated to the last version available on asus website.
I've also disassembled and reassembled all the components to minimize bad connections.
I've also disable DOCP, and even with sotck BIOS the problem remains.
I don't know, what else I can do. Any ideas?

Thanks a lot to those who spend time to read this post
Much Love LTT fam.

The first issue I see here is a noticeable CPU bottleneck. The 2700 can't properly feed a 2080 on 1080p and the 2080 probably enters lower power states since it's not properly utilized. Switching from lower to higher power states causes stutters too.

There are three ways to mitigate this; increasing the details to maximum (slightly decreases the bottleneck), upgrading the CPU or upgrading to a 1440p or 4K monitor.

 

The second issue I see here is XMP 3200 on a Zen+. That's nearly impossible to achieve, those CPU-s are hard to get above 3000 working stable unless the memory is Hynx CJR or Samsung B-die and the CPU a golden sample. Try using second XMP profile (should be 2933).

 

Does the board have the latest Bios?

Did you install the chipset drivers available on AMD-s website? Or the old ones from Asus?