Will this be enough....?

[Bayron]

So I'm Planing to buy new gpu, recently made cpu upgrade, but now I wanna upgrade gpu from 1650 super to rtx 3060 12gb. 

 

My current psu is be quite system power 9 400w 

 

Will be quite system power 10 550w will be enough? 

https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/3929

Gpu manufacturer page says minimum 550w psu 

 

Have 1 m.2 ssd, x2 7200rpm hdds, 5 rgb case fans whit controller(uses molex) , 2 rgb ram modules, and wraith prism cpu cooler. 

 

I don't intend to OC. 

 

Tnx for help

[mariushm]

1650 consumes 80w, 3060 consumes 180w

m.2 ssd consumes 2-3w

hdd each 6-10w

each fan 2-3w

ram 2-3w per stick

cpu 60-80w

mobo  around 10-15w

 

bold stuff is from 12v, the others are mostly from 5v and 3.3v

 

your system power 9 psu can supply 380w+ on 12v  - with the 3060 you'd be somewhere around 250w draw on 12v

 

the psu will handle it, but will produce quite a bit of heat due to bronze efficiency.

 

no need to upgrade unless the system crashes or resets often in games.

 

the card maker says 550w so that stupid user won't buy a no-name 450w psu that it reaality can only give 200-250w on  12v and lies on the label about it.

 

 

 

 

[OddOod]

CPU?
Regardless you should be safe with 550W

[Bayron]

8 minutes ago, OddOod said:

CPU?
Regardless you should be safe with 550W

CPU ryzen 5 3600 

[Bayron]

13 minutes ago, mariushm said:

1650 consumes 80w, 3060 consumes 180w

m.2 ssd consumes 2-3w

hdd each 6-10w

each fan 2-3w

ram 2-3w per stick

cpu 60-80w

mobo  around 10-15w

 

bold stuff is from 12v, the others are mostly from 5v and 3.3v

 

your system power 9 psu can supply 380w+ on 12v  - with the 3060 you'd be somewhere around 250w draw on 12v

 

the psu will handle it, but will produce quite a bit of heat due to bronze efficiency.

 

no need to upgrade unless the system crashes or resets often in games.

 

the card maker says 550w so that stupid user won't buy a no-name 450w psu that it reaality can only give 200-250w on  12v and lies on the label about it.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, but on full load wouldn't it be to low power psu(my current) ? 

[mariushm]

Your power supply can produce up to 384 watts on 12v, and the rest on 5v and 3.3v

 

When you're gaming, the video card will consume up to 180 watts - it depends how gpu intensive the game is, the video quality settings, the resolution etc etc ...

I don't know what CPU you have, but a six core ryzen consumes around 60-80w when running at 100% in benchmarks - while gaming, not all cores will run at 100%, so power won't be pegged at maximum power determined in benchmarks

 

So IF the cpu runs at 100% and IF the video card runs at 100%, the psu would have to supply 180w + 80w = 260 watts to these two. You would use 260w out or 384w - or around 2/3 of the capabilities of the power supply.

 

Everything else in your computer - hard drives, ssds, fans, motherboard (chipset, onboard audio, network) don't vary their power consumption and the usage is constant and low, their power usage is not affected by what you do (gaming or not)

 

It's basic math.

 

Reason why I said the fineprint about crashes in games is that SOME models of video cards have a bad habit of taking a big amount of power in a very short period of time .. for example the video card consumes 100w for 1 second, then suddenly consumes 150 watts for 0.2 seconds, then goes back to 100 watts for seconds .

Some low wattage power supplies don't like it when video cards have such big jumps, and their circuitry may think there's a flaw in the video card and decides to shut down the power supply to protect the computer.

I'm not saying your power supply is one of those, it's best to just try using the card.

 

And clean the power supply, make sure there's no dust clogging the vent holes, the fan etc

 

The "550w power supply recommended" is a generic "cover their asses" statement - it's a low enough wattage so that people will buy the card to upgrade older systems and it's big enough value to protect themselves in case people put them in those office PCs with 270w / 320w power supplies from HP/Dell/Lenovo  or to prevent people from buying shitty no-name power supplies that can't do the advertised wattage.

They don't want people to RMA video cards because their system crashes when psu can't handle it. People will return video card before trying another power supply, and returns cost.

[Bayron]

36 minutes ago, mariushm said:

Your power supply can produce up to 384 watts on 12v, and the rest on 5v and 3.3v

 

When you're gaming, the video card will consume up to 180 watts - it depends how gpu intensive the game is, the video quality settings, the resolution etc etc ...

I don't know what CPU you have, but a six core ryzen consumes around 60-80w when running at 100% in benchmarks - while gaming, not all cores will run at 100%, so power won't be pegged at maximum power determined in benchmarks

 

So IF the cpu runs at 100% and IF the video card runs at 100%, the psu would have to supply 180w + 80w = 260 watts to these two. You would use 260w out or 384w - or around 2/3 of the capabilities of the power supply.

 

Everything else in your computer - hard drives, ssds, fans, motherboard (chipset, onboard audio, network) don't vary their power consumption and the usage is constant and low, their power usage is not affected by what you do (gaming or not)

 

It's basic math.

 

Reason why I said the fineprint about crashes in games is that SOME models of video cards have a bad habit of taking a big amount of power in a very short period of time .. for example the video card consumes 100w for 1 second, then suddenly consumes 150 watts for 0.2 seconds, then goes back to 100 watts for seconds .

Some low wattage power supplies don't like it when video cards have such big jumps, and their circuitry may think there's a flaw in the video card and decides to shut down the power supply to protect the computer.

I'm not saying your power supply is one of those, it's best to just try using the card.

 

And clean the power supply, make sure there's no dust clogging the vent holes, the fan etc

 

The "550w power supply recommended" is a generic "cover their asses" statement - it's a low enough wattage so that people will buy the card to upgrade older systems and it's big enough value to protect themselves in case people put them in those office PCs with 270w / 320w power supplies from HP/Dell/Lenovo  or to prevent people from buying shitty no-name power supplies that can't do the advertised wattage.

They don't want people to RMA video cards because their system crashes when psu can't handle it. People will return video card before trying another power supply, and returns cost.

OK, so I must try before upgrading psu, Tnx