what graphics card can i use for my pc

[LEBoi]

I have a ryzen 3 3200g 

16 gb ram 

and a 180 watts psu

ill take whatever is at least a step up from the intergraded graphics

 

Also some options I figured would work are a rx 550/570, gtx 1630, or low profile rx 6400.

 

Edited January 10, 2023 by LEBoi
add some possible options

[Middcore]

With a 180W PSU, basically nothing that would improve on the integrated graphics is available to you. You need to upgrade the PSU first.

 

What is your total budget?

[AbydosOne]

4 minutes ago, LEBoi said:

and a 180 watts psu

What form factor is your case? It's been a very long time since normal ATX power supplies came rated this low, which leads me to believe you may have a SFF case.

[675409]

you may be able to handle a gtx1650. Your cpu uses around 60 watts. Meaning with the ram, mobo, and everything else you could potentially have enough for a low-power gpu that takes no external power, such as the gtx 1650 that takes power only from the pcie slot. THis is not guaranteed to work though.

[Matt129]

2 minutes ago, Middcore said:

With a 180W PSU, basically nothing that would improve on the integrated graphics is available to you. You need to upgrade the PSU first.

 

What is your total budget?

Technically isn’t there an AMD card that is super power efficient and would be an ok upgrade to integrated graphics?

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, Matt129 said:

Technically isn’t there an AMD card that is super power efficient and would be an ok upgrade to integrated graphics?

yeah but 180W PSU isn't really enough info because it could be Gold or only 80plus drawing ~180W from wall and delivering ~140W to the components

[LEBoi]

6 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

What form factor is your case? It's been a very long time since normal ATX power supplies came rated this low, which leads me to believe you may have a SFF case.

its a renewed hp pavilion from amazon, i checked for any psu i could use but most of them are just replacements from a higher end pc and cost way to much for me.

[Zando_]

7 minutes ago, podkall said:

yeah but 180W PSU isn't really enough info because it could be Gold or only 80plus drawing ~180W from wall and delivering ~140W to the components

PSU wattage rating is what they deliver to the computer, not what they draw from the wall.

[LEBoi]

14 minutes ago, Middcore said:

What is your total budget?

about 80 for a psu and 150 for a gpu

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, Zando_ said:

PSU wattage rating is what they deliver to the computer, not what they draw from the wall.

wait really? I didn't know

 

so what's the quality for then?

[--SID--]

6 minutes ago, LEBoi said:

about 80 for a psu and 150 for a gpu

Back to the beginning. Only prebuilds come with a 180w PSU. Do you have a prebuild and if yes, what's the brand and model of this computer?

 

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

so what's the quality for then?

What quality? 80Plus is an efficiency rating, not a quality rating. It's easier to make a junk 90% efficient unit than a decent 80% efficient unit.

[Zando_]

5 minutes ago, podkall said:

so what's the quality for then?

Isn't quality, it's efficiency: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus. Ofc, typically the higher efficiency units are higher quality as you need better components to hit those efficiencies in the first place, but there are still even 80+ gold rated fire hazards (gigabyte just had a bunch of em cause issues for example). 

[LEBoi]

18 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

Do you have a prebuild and if yes, what's the brand and model of this computer?

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Desktop-Computer-Windows-M01-F0020/dp/B07X6WXFK6/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=ryzen%2B3%2B3200g%2Bdesktop&qid=1673385484&s=pc&sr=1-3&th=1

not the exact one because mine has a 1tb

Edited January 10, 2023 by LEBoi
one thing i left out

[podkall]

7 minutes ago, Zando_ said:

Isn't quality, it's efficiency: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus. Ofc, typically the higher efficiency units are higher quality as you need better components to hit those efficiencies in the first place, but there are still even 80+ gold rated fire hazards (gigabyte just had a bunch of em cause issues for example). 

if it's efficiency, then the W rating should be wall and not what's delivered for the components

 

also quality, where low quality PSUs thermal throttle or melt or something rather than provide the promised wattage...

[Middcore]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

if it's efficiency, then the W rating should be wall and not what's delivered for the components

It isn't. 

 

1 minute ago, podkall said:

 

also quality

It isn't. 

[Middcore]

This PC does not use a standard form factor power supply: https://www.microcenter.com/product/626911/hp-m01-f0020-desktop-computer-(refurbished)

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

if it's efficiency, then the W rating should be wall and not what's delivered for the components

No. 80+ is the efficiency standard, wattage rating is separate and a sum of the 12v/3.3v/5v rails and what power they can deliver, usually printed on the side of the PSU. In this example, assuming the OP's PSU were 80+ Gold rated and on 115V power, it would pull around 203-204W from the wall to deliver its rated 180W to the PC at 87% efficiency. 

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

also quality, where low quality PSUs thermal throttle or melt or something rather than provide the promised wattage...

Also completely different, you have to look at reviews for specific units to see if they're built properly or have major issues when getting close to their rated limit. 

3 minutes ago, Middcore said:

This PC does not use a standard form factor power supply: https://www.microcenter.com/product/626911/hp-m01-f0020-desktop-computer-(refurbished)

I believe that still is a standard, looks like TFX, it's basically only used in these funky OEM PCs. The real compatibility issue comes down to the connectors, sometimes the motherboards use a weird connector for mobo or CPU power, though for common OEMs like HP you can usually find adapters on eBay for a few bucks. That would be why OP couldn't find an affordable replacement, decent TFX units are obnoxiously expensive, especially if you want anything over 250-300W.

[LEBoi]

On 1/10/2023 at 3:29 PM, Zando_ said:

I believe that still is a standard, looks like TFX, it's basically only used in these funky OEM PCs. The real compatibility issue comes down to the connectors, sometimes the motherboards use a weird connector for mobo or CPU power, though for common OEMs like HP you can usually find adapters on eBay for a few bucks. That would be why OP couldn't find an affordable replacement, decent TFX units are obnoxiously expensive, especially if you want anything over 250-300W.

Do you think i should just get a new case and move all the components, then get a atx psu? I think I could get all that under $100 

[Zando_]

4 minutes ago, LEBoi said:

Do you think i should just get a new case and move all the components, then get a atx psu? I think I could get all that under $100 

If it uses ATX standard mounting holes and has the rear panel I/O in the normal spot, it should be easy to swap into any standard case. You might be able to squeeze a case and good PSU in under $100, I'm just not familiar with which budget PSUs are fire hazards or not.