13700k hard custom loop / high temps

[Backbite]

Greetings,

Rather than trying to necro an older thread. Figured I'd ask in a new one.

My 13700k is idling at 50c with a Thermaltake w4 water block and an LGA 1700 adapter kit for it...

In Battlefield 2042, it can reach temp spikes of up to 108c as reported by HWInfo.

 

I'm trying to determine if this is due to the stock ILM, or horrible w4 water block not being originally intended for the LGA 1700 socket.

 

Attached a video of running Cinebench, temp goes up fast, temp goes down fast. So cooling is making it there, it just seems not optimal.

This was my first time doing a hard tube watercooling loop, so I was hoping someone with more experience with this could provide input.

I have a Thermalright contact frame on the way, should I put a different CPU water block on there as well?

 

Thank you!

[Applefreak]

7 minutes ago, Backbite said:

Greetings,

Rather than trying to necro an older thread. Figured I'd ask in a new one.

My 13700k is idling at 50c with a Thermaltake w4 water block and an LGA 1700 adapter kit for it...

In Battlefield 2042, it can reach temp spikes of up to 108c as reported by HWInfo.

 

I'm trying to determine if this is due to the stock ILM, or horrible w4 water block not being originally intended for the LGA 1700 socket.

 

Attached a video of running Cinebench, temp goes up fast, temp goes down fast. So cooling is making it there, it just seems not optimal.

This was my first time doing a hard tube watercooling loop, so I was hoping someone with more experience with this could provide input.

I have a Thermalright contact frame on the way, should I put a different CPU water block on there as well?

 

Thank you!

Your Waterblock is not supported on that socket. You want to get a proper one for LGA 1700. It is a miracle you didn't damage the processor already. You always want to check the handbook for compatibility. That cooler is quite old, it could not have been compatible for a socket that recently came out, unless you have some sort of upgrade kit for it that states compatibility. In short, your cooler is too far away from the CPU so the only thing that makes some contact is the thermal compound, that is why it's idling so high. Btw. if your motherboard has a temp threshold, you want to set it way lower. 95C on Intel would be my absolute limit short term. While gaming, anything above 80C has me concerned, even on air. So please get a new cooler for your loop. 

[Backbite]

8 minutes ago, Applefreak said:

Your Waterblock is not supported on that socket. You want to get a proper one for LGA 1700. It is a miracle you didn't damage the processor already. You always want to check the handbook for compatibility. That cooler is quite old, it could not have been compatible for a socket that recently came out, unless you have some sort of upgrade kit for it that states compatibility. In short, your cooler is too far away from the CPU so the only thing that makes some contact is the thermal compound, that is why it's idling so high. Btw. if your motherboard has a temp threshold, you want to set it way lower. 95C on Intel would be my absolute limit short term. While gaming, anything above 80C has me concerned, even on air. So please get a new cooler for your loop. 

Yeah, Thermaltake made an "adaptor kit" to make the w4 "suitable for LGA 1700" which is what I installed. (Specifically this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09LLS3G47) But I would believe that it is not at this point.

Thanks!

[RONOTHAN##]

This is either a terrible block (though not likely) or really bad thermal paste spread. Coming from someone with a 13700K and a custom water loop to put it on (360mm thick rad with an old EK Supremacy block), those temps are absolutely terrible. Back when I didn't have the LGA 1700 mounting hardware for that block, I had it help in place with zip ties (they weren't really putting any mounting pressure on it, it was just to keep it in place and mostly just help in place by some rather sticky thermal paste) and in a single run of R23 it would end up in the high 90s after a single run, but would take until the end of the run to get there, didn't get above 100C, and still idled around the 30C mark. Of course the contact frame and actually bothering to mount the water block brought it down to the mid 80s for a single R23 run, but still. All of this is on a Z690 Unify-X by the way, as that does have some impact in to what the voltage values you will see are, but this shouldn't be too far from what you're seeing. 

 

First thing I would do is take off the water block to make sure that the thermal paste application is covering most of the CPU. Not enough thermal paste would cause this issue. If that isn't it, disassemble the water block while it's off the CPU and make sure that the block isn't clogged up. If that's not clogged up, I'd be looking to see if there are any blockages in the loop. The easiest way to check this is to blow through a tube and feel how much back pressure there is, but this isn't exactly sanitary and you want to do a full fluid flush if you do this. If none of those things fix it, then maybe it's the actual block that's the issue and it's just not capable of cooling the 200-300W that CPU can output, but I'd still kinda doubt that. 

[Backbite]

Thanks for the responses... I have a tube of Kryonaut extreme, I only used the included thermaltake tube of paste when I set it up.

I'll take it apart and put the contact frame on it as well as repasting to see what happens.

It should be on Tuesday. I'll post a follow up just for the sake of people googling the issue if nothing else.

[Backbite]

Okay, so it's hard to say if this issue was the ILM or poor CPU block mounting. It's likely a little bit of everything:

• While the cold-plate side of the W4 CPU block covers the whole IHS area, the fins inside aren't covering as much of the area. (This is probably what is causing the high idle temps... (???))
• Removing the CPU block, the paste seemed a little uneven and a tad runny for some reason. I don't trust the included thermaltake paste. Glad I replaced it with Kryonaut Extreme.

Again, the idle temps are a bit high (~45c), but I no longer get immediate peaks to over 100c.

The W4 does okay, but the CPU would benefit significantly from a CPU block designed for LGA 1700 or larger die sizes in general.

I'm content with how it turned out. It was perhaps a little foolhardy to build my first hard-tube setup in a fractal torrent compact.