5800X3D temps inquiry

[thetrimdj]

Hi all!

 

Long time hardware enthusiast but first time tinkerer.

 

I have a pre-built system that had a 3700x in it and went and got myself a 5800X3D as an upgrade. I've gone a head and put the new CPU in myself and am a bit concerned about temps. The CPU temp @ idle is around 47C-48C and under load (R23/games etc) it jumps and hangs right at 90C. I do understand that the 5000 series is designed to operate at up to 90C but I'm just nudging up over the limit at 90.4C. I'm wondering if maybe I should go in an re-apply the thermal paste to try and get better results. 

 

Currently I run with a Wraith Max cooler and I leave the case window open.  Any thoughts? Is this just kind of "how it is now?" or short of getting a new cooling solution, is there some additional things I can do to get that max temp below 90C with the current set up I have? I've attached a copy of the HWiNFO readout right after running R23 Multi in case that tells anyone anything.

Thanks!
 

[Dr. Will0hlep]

So, the wraith max was designed to work on CPUs with a TDP of 95W or less. The 5800X3D has a TDP of 105W.

Now:
1) cooler TDPs are a bad measure so take the rest of what I say with a pinch of salt
2) modern CPUs will deal with whatever cooling you give them (so long as you give them something), they'll just slow down to avoid overheating (this means it will work fine and shouldn't be an issue but you might leave some performance on the table)

I'd recommend a better air cooler but I don't believe you need it

[svmlegacy]

The 5800X3D is especially prone to running hot due to the extra thermal interface used (essentially a silicon shim between the cores and IHS). It's one of the presumed reasons AMD disabled overclocking on the chip.

 

That being said, it's not thermal throttling, so just leave it be.

[Mark Kaine]

5 hours ago, thetrimdj said:

I do understand that the 5000 series is designed to operate at up to 90C

Actually that is way into throttle territory and it's *not* designed this way at all for normal operation...

 

90c is still safe, but that will not get better over time and it won't operate at maximum/  ideal performance either. 

 

It's really easy: you need a better cooler,  all the advantages of the 3D vanish when it's throttling. 

 

For comparison my 3D has 79c max running cinebench multi

 

 

5 hours ago, svmlegacy said:

it's not thermal throttling

it actually is 

...

 

it starts throttling at 85c straight...

 

 

idk why hwinfo64 says "no" thats entirely not correct however,  maybe it's an older version 

[freeagent]

In R23 Multi? Mine hits 71 with no fans on the cooler in a stock Torrent Compact config.

[Mark Kaine]

1 minute ago, freeagent said:

In R23 Multi? Mine hits 71 with no fans on the cooler in a stock Torrent Compact config.

but you live in Antarctica and do voodoo to the thermal paste, its not fair! 

[freeagent]

4 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

but you live in Antarctica and do voodoo to the thermal paste, its not fair! 

Lol it is 19c in my space right now