First build at almost 40!

[bdubbs1983]

Budget (including currency): 1000

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: MW2, Halo MCC, planet zoo, older COD games

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Hi All,

 

I am working on my first build:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nJKQv3

 

got the GPU for 320

 

can you all let me know your thoughts? i dont have a monitor yet but will probably be 1440p, also will hookup to a 4k 120 TV

 

thanks!

[RONOTHAN##]

There are quite a number of problems with this build. 

1. The CPU/motherboard combo doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a couple reasons. First, the CPU is 2 generations old at this point, the price hasn't really come down to lower than current gen, better hardware, and it was pretty famous for just being bad. Second, that CPU draws a ton of power, more than that motherboard is capable of handling, so you're likely to run into power throttling issues resulting in worse performance. Plus the stock cooler is just not enough to keep that chip cool, you need something better. For about $30 more you can get a 12600KF, a CPU that's significantly faster and draws less power. It's still a last gen CPU, and waiting till January to see if you can get a 13400F instead (also rumored to be around the $200 mark with almost identical performance) might be a better way to go for a couple reasons, though 12th gen was miles better than what 11th gen was. 
2. You should get a cheaper kit of RAM. 3200MT/s is not that much slower and can save you $20 that could be put towards something better (a CPU cooler, a better CPU, etc.). 
3. The Crucial P3 is a much better SSD than the Samsung 980 non-Pro for $30 less. 
4. That PSU is really bad. Spend a little extra money to get something like a BitFelix Formula Gold or another much higher rated PSU. A good 650W unit is a lot better than a poorly rated 735W unit.
5. For the case, the Fractal Focus G has been more or less replaced by the much better Focus 2 for the same price, with the only drawback being it doesn't have an integrated 5.25" bay for a DVD drive. That's not really that big a deal IMO, DVDs are very rare nowadays, and if you really need one you can get an external reader for the same price as an internal one, so I'd much rather have the better overall Focus 2 for that price. If you'd really like to have an internal reader though, you can stick to the current case/DVD drive combo. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2qLLLs

 

The list with all the improvements, and it's right at the $1000 price mark including the 3060 you already bought. 

[bdubbs1983]

57 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

There are quite a number of problems with this build. 

1. The CPU/motherboard combo doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a couple reasons. First, the CPU is 2 generations old at this point, the price hasn't really come down to lower than current gen, better hardware, and it was pretty famous for just being bad. Second, that CPU draws a ton of power, more than that motherboard is capable of handling, so you're likely to run into power throttling issues resulting in worse performance. Plus the stock cooler is just not enough to keep that chip cool, you need something better. For about $30 more you can get a 12600KF, a CPU that's significantly faster and draws less power. It's still a last gen CPU, and waiting till January to see if you can get a 13400F instead (also rumored to be around the $200 mark with almost identical performance) might be a better way to go for a couple reasons, though 12th gen was miles better than what 11th gen was. 
2. You should get a cheaper kit of RAM. 3200MT/s is not that much slower and can save you $20 that could be put towards something better (a CPU cooler, a better CPU, etc.). 
3. The Crucial P3 is a much better SSD than the Samsung 980 non-Pro for $30 less. 
4. That PSU is really bad. Spend a little extra money to get something like a BitFelix Formula Gold or another much higher rated PSU. A good 650W unit is a lot better than a poorly rated 735W unit.
5. For the case, the Fractal Focus G has been more or less replaced by the much better Focus 2 for the same price, with the only drawback being it doesn't have an integrated 5.25" bay for a DVD drive. That's not really that big a deal IMO, DVDs are very rare nowadays, and if you really need one you can get an external reader for the same price as an internal one, so I'd much rather have the better overall Focus 2 for that price. If you'd really like to have an internal reader though, you can stick to the current case/DVD drive combo. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2qLLLs

 

The list with all the improvements, and it's right at the $1000 price mark including the 3060 you already bought. 

Thanks for this, it's very helpful. 

 

Would using a different cooler help the cpu? 

[RONOTHAN##]

9 minutes ago, bdubbs1983 said:

Would using a different cooler help the cpu?

Different as in a different CPU cooler than the one that comes with the CPU (assuming it comes with one), or different than the one recommended in the parts list I made?

 

Better CPU coolers are always better, but you can hit diminishing returns pretty easily. Unless you're gonna be overclocking, all that matters is that you don't thermal throttle. The stock cooler is almost never enough to keep the CPU from thermal throttling on higher end CPUs. The CPU cooler I recommended is plenty to keep the 12600K cool, though, so a better one won't really help out.