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Do I go for the 7900 XTX?

willster9000

Budget (including currency): under 2k pretty much

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: God Of War, Resident Evil Village, Minecraft (with shaders!), Battlefield 4, etc. 

Other details: Ryzen 75800x, ASRock b550m, 16GB DDR4 3600, 750 tI, 850w Gold PSU, and a 1440p Monitor.

 

Ok so I want to play games without having to worry about if my PC can handle it. I used to have a EVGA 3060, but then it died like the company in the GPU market, and I haven't been able to get a new one from them, and so i'm stuck with my 750 Ti. For those who don't know it's about 8 ish years old, and cant run BF4 (over 9 years old) on anything over medium-low setting. So the question is do I just YOLO it and go for the 7900 XTX and then not worry about gaming? Keep in mind the $1000 price is USD, and that to Canadian is about $1370 ish, and with tax another easy $100.

 

God I just want to game, but should I try get a cheaper used old gen card off Ebay?

 

Edit: Don't care about RT performance at all btw.

Edit: Welp doesn't even matter cause AMD couldn't even keep them in stock! Why do GPU companies want me to hate them?

 

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7900XTX comes with RT performance of basically last gen Nvidia (3090) in the same product tier. It depends on whether you care about RT.

 

Not sure if minecraft shaders include the RT ones like SEUS PTGI, those are usually built with Nvidia in mind first then added AMD support.

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6 minutes ago, willster9000 said:

God I just want to game, but should I try get a cheaper used old gen card off Ebay?

If you just want to game and are willing to turn down some settings, that's the much more sensible option right now.

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7900 XTX is showing promising performance in raster at a cheaper price than Nvidia's offerings. 6900 and 6950 are also pretty good if you can get them cheaper. 4080 pricing is a joke imo, it's not that a great card and struggles to fend off AMD with it's silly price tag in raster. So seems to be a decent offer in a market gone mad.

 

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Not sure if minecraft shaders include the RT

Don't think so. If I understand correctly only Minecraft RTX include RT, doesn't appear to be this OP is after.

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10 minutes ago, aDoomGuy said:

Don't think so. If I understand correctly only Minecraft RTX include RT, doesn't appear to be this OP is after.

SEUS PTGI in particular does not support AMD at the very beginning. It doesnt use RT, but it's a 3rd party mod so hardware support is messy

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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35 minutes ago, willster9000 said:

Budget (including currency): under 2k pretty much

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: God Of War, Resident Evil Village, Minecraft (with shaders!), Battlefield 4, etc. 

Other details: Ryzen 75800x, ASRock b550m, 16GB DDR4 3600, 750 tI, 850w Gold PSU, and a 1440p Monitor.

 

So the question is do I just YOLO it and go for the 7900 XTX and then not worry about gaming? Keep in mind the $1000 price is USD, and that to Canadian is about $1370 ish, and with tax another easy $100.

 

God I just want to game, but should I try get a cheaper used old gen card off Ebay?

 

The regular 5800X would bottleneck the 7900XTX on 1440p. That card would need 4K or a better CPU (5800x3d, Zen4, Intel Raptor lake).

Get an RX 6800 or an RTX 3080. Those would round up your system quite well.

 

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7 hours ago, Eigenvektor said:

If you just want to game and are willing to turn down some settings, that's the much more sensible option right now.

I'm already gaming and turning down settings and I absolutely hate it. Thank you for the suggestion, but I want to be able to crank settings and not worry

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7 hours ago, 191x7 said:

The regular 5800X would bottleneck the 7900XTX on 1440p. That card would need 4K or a better CPU (5800x3d, Zen4, Intel Raptor lake).

Get an RX 6800 or an RTX 3080. Those would round up your system quite well.

 

I hear what you're saying, and I somewhat agree. If I do go with the 7900XTX then I have other stuff I can meaningfully upgrade down the line.

 

If I were to be able to get a 6900XT for around $750 CAD would that be worth it aswell?

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4 minutes ago, willster9000 said:

I hear what you're saying, and I somewhat agree. If I do go with the 7900XTX then I have other stuff I can meaningfully upgrade down the line.

 

If I were to be able to get a 6900XT for around $750 CAD would that be worth it aswell?

The best performance per dollar is offered by the RX 6800 and 6800XT now. They aren't that much weaker than the 6900 and 6950.

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21 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

The best performance per dollar is offered by the RX 6800 and 6800XT now. They aren't that much weaker than the 6900 and 6950.

Well thank you, I'll keep that in mind!

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