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Wanting to upgrade Graphics Card

Blaka

Budget (including currency): $400

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  I play Warzone, FIFA 23, Rocket League, LOL, Squads, Forza 5, Modded Fallout 4, Lightroom

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

(I've been pc gaming for few years but fairly new to upgrading and figure out what works)

System

  • CPU
    Intel Core I5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6 Core Processor
  • Motherboard
    MSI B365m PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA 1151 Motherboard
  • RAM
    ADATA XPG SPECTRIX D50 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
  • GPU
    Asus Phoenix GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB Video Card
  • Case
    be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case
  • Storage
    Western Digital Blue 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive

    Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive

    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
  • Display(s)
    VIOTEK GFV27DAB 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor
    Samsung C24F390 24.0" 1920 x 1080 60 Hz Curved Monitor
  • Cooling
    Cooler Master i71C RGB 37 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler
  • Keyboard
    Razer Cynosa V2 Gaming Keyboard
  • Mouse

    Razer Basilisk Ultimate Hyperspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse 20K DPI Optical Sensor Chroma RGB 11

    • Power Supply
    EVGA 450 BR 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

     

    I'm wanting to buy MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 12GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Video Card RTX 3060 Gaming X 12G but I'm not sure on if id be bottlenecking my pc or i should be good?
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For a RTX 3060 you need a new better (in quality and watt) PSU too and the relatively slow i5-9400 might be a bottlekneck.

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3 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

For a RTX 3060 you need a new better (in quality and watt) PSU too and the relatively slow i5-9400 might be a bottlekneck.

What do you mean better in quailty like different gpu? also i was going to also get a new ps (DeepCool DQ750-M-V2L 750W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS Gold )

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14 minutes ago, Blaka said:

Budget (including currency): $400

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    I'm wanting to buy MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 12GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Video Card RTX 3060 Gaming X 12G but I'm not sure on if id be bottlenecking my pc or i should be good?

Hi. The thing is, the 9400f CPU you have with it's weak 6 cores without hyperthreading is a bottleneck for the 1660Ti you have in some scenarios and it would be a huge bottleneck to anything newer&stronger. 

 

If you were to upgrade to an i7 8700 or i9 9900, you'd probably have enough for a mid-range 1440p card like the RTX 3060, but that upgrade with a used CPU would eat up all your budget and it's not recommended.

 

Your probably best option is - to simply upgrade your platform with a new CPU and motherboard. And keep the graphics card you have till you can upgrade it too.

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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5 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Hi. The thing is, the 9400f CPU you have with it's weak 6 cores without hyperthreading is a bottleneck for the 1660Ti you have in some scenarios and it would be a huge bottleneck to anything newer&stronger. 

 

If you were to upgrade to an i7 8700 or i9 9900, you'd probably have enough for a mid-range 1440p card like the RTX 3060, but that upgrade with a used CPU would eat up all your budget and it's not recommended.

 

Your probably best option is - to simply upgrade your platform with a new CPU and motherboard. And keep the graphics card you have till you can upgrade it too.

Sorry might be a dumb question but which cpu would you recommend I know you said two but any specific ones?

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8 minutes ago, Blaka said:

Sorry might be a dumb question but which cpu would you recommend I know you said two but any specific ones?

I'd say an i5 12400f and a B660 ATX DDR4 motherboard. Should fit the budget.

Alternatively, a Ryzen 5 5600 or 7 5700X and a B550 AM4 motherboard.

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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19 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

I'd say an i5 12400f and a B660 ATX DDR4 motherboard. Should fit the budget.

Alternatively, a Ryzen 5 5600 or 7 5700X and a B550 AM4 motherboard.

Any i7 motherboard combos or i7 and motherboards that you recommend? Even If its like $450.

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5700x + used midranger b3/450 (pro4, a pro, aorus elite, etc.)

 

Pretty much all you can do with your current budget

 

later on once you get enough money pick up a used 6700xt, 6800, or 3070

 

 

Although if you dont really do anything really multicore intensive you may wanna get a 5600 or 5500 if thats >30$ cheaper than a 5600 (performance diff can be made up by 4.6-4.8g oc and 5000mhz ddr4 aka 1:1 infinity fabric or close to it as possible)

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15 minutes ago, Blaka said:

Any i7 motherboard combos or i7 and motherboards that you recommend? Even If its like $450.

A modern i7 Alder Lake or Raptor Lake wouldn't leave you enough budget for a motherboard that wouldn't throttle it.

 

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M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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55 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

A modern i7 Alder Lake or Raptor Lake wouldn't leave you enough budget for a motherboard that wouldn't throttle it.

 

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Msi B660a should do fine, 12700f + b66a is 410$, a tad overbudget but totally fine, b660 tomahawk is overpriced and you are better off with a z690 board

 

Though the 13600k just crushes the 12700k so for 30$ more than the 12700f thats an even better cpu

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2 hours ago, Blaka said:

What do you mean better in quailty like different gpu?

PSU

2 hours ago, Blaka said:

DeepCool DQ750-M-V2L 750W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS Gold

Not that one. That's a model with issues on <120v mains, handle as 230v only. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n34BD3/enermax-revolution-df-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf650awt is the cheapest I recommand.

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10 hours ago, 191x7 said:

A modern i7 Alder Lake or Raptor Lake wouldn't leave you enough budget for a motherboard that wouldn't throttle it.

 

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so if i kept my gpu now but upgraded my cpu and mother board you'd recommend the tomahawk and either 12700K/F or 13700KF?

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12 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Hi. The thing is, the 9400f CPU you have with it's weak 6 cores without hyperthreading is a bottleneck for the 1660Ti you have in some scenarios and it would be a huge bottleneck to anything newer&stronger. 

 

If you were to upgrade to an i7 8700 or i9 9900, you'd probably have enough for a mid-range 1440p card like the RTX 3060, but that upgrade with a used CPU would eat up all your budget and it's not recommended.

 

Your probably best option is - to simply upgrade your platform with a new CPU and motherboard. And keep the graphics card you have till you can upgrade it too.

Also if i upgrade my motherboard id have to reinstall windows correct? Then if i upgrade my cpu down the line would i have to reinstall it again?

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You can't put a 12/13th generation cpu in a 8/9th generation motherboard, the sockets have to match!

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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13 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

You can't put a 12/13th generation cpu in a 8/9th generation motherboard, the sockets have to match!

truue i put that together after few minutes lol my b 

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