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kriptcs
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Hey! So recently I found out that my bios is supper buggy. I was trying to fix some fps problems with CSGO and I realied that I would reset the bios to default, I would save and exit, then when I went back into it nothing happened. Or I was setting my ram at 3200 (base 2133) and when I would boot in windows it would still be 2133. 
As I said above, I have recently had some problems with framerates in games, but benchmarks assure me my pc is running up to snuff. So I am running out of options and ideas as to what the issue is other than the MB. It is the oldest component in my pc, and it hasn't been upgraded in quite a few years, as opposed to my other component.

Here are the specs:

  • Ryzen 9 3900x with a Lian Li Galahad AIO
  • Gigabyte RTX 3060
  • Corsair Vengeance LED 2x8GB @ 3200mhz
  • Asus X370 Prime Pro
  • Seasonic Focus Plus 750W
  • Kingston A400 nvme ssd
  • NZXT S340

Would you say that the MB is bottlenecking the rest of my system?

For those that might ask:

  • MB is updated to the absolute latest patch found on the asus site
  • Chipset, GPU and rest also recently updated
  • Temperatures are good and so is airflow (85C max in AIDA Extreme)
  • I reinstalled windows at least 4-5 times already
  • My problems in games (mostly CSGO) comes from very low average fps for my system especially compared to less powerful configurations (Ryzen 5 3600xs and i5 10400fs) but also that I get the intended performance with an absolute fresh windows install (no drivers) and then my problems appear right back again after I start installing drivers and basic apps (chrome, discord, steam, etc).

    Thank you in advance for your help!

Ryzen 9 7900x w/ LIAN LI Galahad 240  +   MSI RTX 3060
32GB @ 4800 mhz Corsair Vengeance + ASUS TUF X670e-PLUS

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the ram speed is probably part of the problem. You could install Ryzen Master and set the ram speed from there, that should force the bios to run the ram at 3200mhz. if that does not work try 3000mhz

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20 minutes ago, kriptcs said:

Corsair Vengeance LED 2x8GB @ 3200mhz

Ryzen and Corsair are not friends.

 

What's the exact partnumber and version number of the RAM?

 

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40 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

the ram speed is probably part of the problem. You could install Ryzen Master and set the ram speed from there, that should force the bios to run the ram at 3200mhz. if that does not work try 3000mhz

That problem seems to be fixed now and it runs 3200mhz constantly now

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3 minutes ago, kriptcs said:

That problem seems to be fixed now and it runs 3200mhz constantly now

And what fixed the problem?

Why is it so hard to write the solution?

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Just now, cesedy said:

And what fixed the problem?

Why is it so hard to write the solution?

I reset the bios and only messed with the ram frequency and flck. Which I set at 3200 and 1600 respectively

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36 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

Ryzen and Corsair are not friends.

 

What's the exact partnumber and version number of the RAM?

 

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Why do you want to OC 3000 MT/s RAM to 3200?

 

Since it's 3000, just enable DOCP and manually set the speed to 2933.

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12 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

Why do you want to OC 3000 MT/s RAM to 3200?

 

Since it's 3000, just enable DOCP and manually set the speed to 2933.

Docp sets it to 3200

And my motherboard for some reason makes it default at 2133. Regardless. I've tried all 2133, 3000, 3200 and none had any impact on the performance somehow

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3 minutes ago, kriptcs said:

I've tried all 2133, 3000, 3200 and none had any impact on the performance somehow

Try 2666, 2800, 2933!

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28 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

Try 2666, 2800, 2933!

Tried 2666, same deal. I kinda doubt it's specifically the ram frequency messing with the fps here

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32GB @ 4800 mhz Corsair Vengeance + ASUS TUF X670e-PLUS

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8 hours ago, kriptcs said:

I kinda doubt it's specifically the ram frequency messing with the fps here

It is. With Ryzen slow RAM has a massive impact on the fps.

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6 hours ago, --SID-- said:

It is. With Ryzen slow RAM has a massive impact on the fps.

That I agree with you. But then lowering the frequency doesn't make sense.

Eitherway, since I am desperate to find the answer I tried all the frequencies from 2133 all the way to 3400 and some failed (abobe 3200) and most had no impact on framrates 😞

Ryzen 9 7900x w/ LIAN LI Galahad 240  +   MSI RTX 3060
32GB @ 4800 mhz Corsair Vengeance + ASUS TUF X670e-PLUS

Seasonic Focus+ 750w

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