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Just now, sergo said:

I can move it at the back but it would be a pain to get to it right now and it would be easier to just get another one for the back tomorrow. So I'm not sure if I should leave it as it is or just get another one tomorrow.

Well, if it is temporary, sure it is fine. It's just the air would be circulating in the case untill they find a way out. Maybe lower boost performance for the CPU and higher temps for the GPU, which is fine for short term. 

I have a new PC build and with my case, I got 3 intake fans at the front but there was no exhaust fan at the back. My CPU cooler Deepcool ag400 plus has 2 fans on each side pulling the air from the front where the 3 intake fans are and blowing it onto the back of the case. The distance between where the exhaust fan would be and the 2nd fan of the CPU cooler is I would say around 5 cm or less. I wonder if I should set up a fan in case it is causing an airflow problem or if would that be okay as it is now. I've just done cinebench multicore test and I'm getting a score of 14662 with sustained ~5085 MHz all core speed on 7600x. I've used the default option from ryzen master and the temp was constantly at 95 degrees. What do you think about this is there going to be a problem?

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since there is no fan in exhaust, there is no resistance and the air can just flow wherever the air isn't intaking

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constant 95 if it's °C it's bad..

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Why not move one of the fans to the back for exhaust???? You have 3 fans...

 

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1 minute ago, podkall said:

constant 95 if it's °C it's bad..

Bro, ryzen 7000 is configured that way, literally, it will boost as high as possible at 95C.

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3 minutes ago, Dukesilver27- said:

Why not move one of the fans to the back for exhaust???? You have 3 fans...

 

I can move it at the back but it would be a pain to get to it right now and it would be easier to just get another one for the back tomorrow. So I'm not sure if I should leave it as it is or just get another one tomorrow.

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4 minutes ago, Dukesilver27- said:

Bro, ryzen 7000 is configured that way, literally, it will boost as high as possible at 95C.

really? I'm not familiar with the AM5 Ryzens yet

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Just now, sergo said:

I can move it at the back but it would be a pain to get to it right now and it would be easier to just get another one for the back tomorrow. So I'm not sure if I should leave it as it is or just get another one tomorrow.

Well, if it is temporary, sure it is fine. It's just the air would be circulating in the case untill they find a way out. Maybe lower boost performance for the CPU and higher temps for the GPU, which is fine for short term. 

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3 minutes ago, podkall said:

really? I'm not familiar with the AM5 Ryzens yet

Yes, the power management of the CPU is configured to boost as high as possible untill 95C, it will intentionally go to that point to squeeze out the most performance. https://youtu.be/_WubXd2tXOA

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1 minute ago, Dukesilver27- said:

Yes, the power management of the CPU is configured to boost as high as possible untill 95C, it will intentionally go to that point to squeeze out the most performance. https://youtu.be/_WubXd2tXOA

Is it called PBO?

 

Also why would a CPU want to stay at 95C if it's it's maximum operating temp, meaning anything higher could be harmful? Or are harmful temps way higher than "optimum"?

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37 minutes ago, sergo said:

leave it as it is or just get another one tomorrow

lol just get a fan for a few bucks, you just spent 300 on a cpu, so make sure it gets some air flow

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39 minutes ago, podkall said:

Is it called PBO?

 

Also why would a CPU want to stay at 95C if it's it's maximum operating temp, meaning anything higher could be harmful? Or are harmful temps way higher than "optimum"?

AMD 7000 series cpus  have a throttling temp of 95C, it will boost as high as it can for as long as it can until the VRM's cant do it anymore or the cpu hits the 95C limit, at least in stock custom-built systems.

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1 hour ago, SiliconMagician said:

AMD 7000 series cpus  have a throttling temp of 95C, it will boost as high as it can for as long as it can until the VRM's cant do it anymore or the cpu hits the 95C limit, at least in stock custom-built systems.

thats an interesting thing AMD did

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13 minutes ago, podkall said:

thats an interesting thing AMD did

I believe you can lower it in Ryzen master, but if that's under stock operation you might want to add a exhaust fan and verify the fan is running at 100% in the fan curve before you hit 95 degrees. If it still runs at 95c you should

upgrade to a dual tower solution. gamers Nexus does extensive testing on various air and water coolers so look there for a new heatsink if needed. Aio liquid coolers tend to be significantly more expensive than similar performing air coolers but if you move your PC alot a big air cooler may not be the best idea.

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1 hour ago, SiliconMagician said:

I believe you can lower it in Ryzen master, but if that's under stock operation you might want to add a exhaust fan and verify the fan is running at 100% in the fan curve before you hit 95 degrees. If it still runs at 95c you should

upgrade to a dual tower solution. gamers Nexus does extensive testing on various air and water coolers so look there for a new heatsink if needed. Aio liquid coolers tend to be significantly more expensive than similar performing air coolers but if you move your PC alot a big air cooler may not be the best idea.

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4 hours ago, podkall said:

Also why would a CPU want to stay at 95C if it's it's maximum operating temp, meaning anything higher could be harmful? Or are harmful temps way higher than "optimum"?

yeah a harmful temp would be much higher than 95 degrees. Like say operating around 110 degrees celsius could kill the CPU pretty quick, but there are shutoffs for that.

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3 hours ago, podkall said:

I'm not OP

If the setting is there it's likely a simple slider. I read that certain motherboards also have a settings for this in bios.

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