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Thinking of replacing my 12400F with a 13600K but not sure if the CPU will run optimally on a MSI MAG B660M Mortar. I know it won't be overclockable however I only use my system for gaming.

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21 minutes ago, Ryuikko said:

It'll be fine, though why are you replacing your cpu? A 12400f should be just fine for gaming, unless you're playing very cpu intensive games

 

Daughter requires the chip but not swayed if no benefit or gains to be made. 

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Should work pretty well.

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3 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

Should work pretty well.

Would a Noctua NH-U12S Redux be enough to cool it under gaming load and more importantly... should I part ways with my 12400F?

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5 minutes ago, Mista G said:

Would a Noctua NH-U12S Redux be enough to cool it under gaming load and more importantly... should I part ways with my 12400F?

I mean, I'm the last guy to ask if you should upgrade. I'll almost always say, "Hell yeah, brother!" 

 

I read another article earlier of someone cooling 13th gen with an Arctic Freezer 34, which is quite modest, and it got 90% of the way there performance wise.

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2 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

I mean, I'm the last guy to ask if you should upgrade. I'll almost always say, "Hell yeah, brother!" 

 

I read another article earlier of someone cooling 13th gen with an Arctic Freezer 34, which is quite modest, and it got 90% of the way there performance wise.

Made for an interesting watch. Decisions, decisions?

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Just now, Mista G said:

Made for an interesting watch. Decisions, decisions?

Well you'll need a cooler for the 12400F won't you? Just bring the Noctua over with it, and get a new one for the 13600k.

 

Thermalright and Deepcool have some great offerings. I picked up a DeepCool AK620 for my 10900k when I gave it to my son, and it runs great.

 

My buddy got a Thermalright FC140 on their 12700k and it also runs great.

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2 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

Well you'll need a cooler for the 12400F won't you? Just bring the Noctua over with it, and get a new one for the 13600k.

 

Thermalright and Deepcool have some great offerings. I picked up a DeepCool AK620 for my 10900k when I gave it to my son, and it runs great.

 

My buddy got a Thermalright FC140 on their 12700k and it also runs great.

 

I'm keeping the Noctua, unless it isn't up to the task? My daughter's setup has the newer Hyper 212 Black V2, so that's sorted? Need to do some research next to see if it's worth the change.

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23 minutes ago, Mista G said:

 

I'm keeping the Noctua, unless it isn't up to the task? My daughter's setup has the newer Hyper 212 Black V2, so that's sorted? Need to do some research next to see if it's worth the change.

I think that should work well

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42 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

I think that should work well

 

From what I can see the 13600K is only about 14% faster than a 12400F, this is according to techpowerup website.

 

I'm running a 1440p setup with a 6800 XT so not sure it's worth the extra cost for the expense?

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If you dont have a super high end graphics card I doubt the switch would make any difference. Most reviews for the 13600k took the Nvidia RTX 4090 as the GPU, not exactly a common pairing for actual buyers.

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2 hours ago, Mista G said:

Thinking of replacing my 12400F with a 13600K but not sure if the CPU will run optimally on a MSI MAG B660M Mortar. I know it won't be overclockable however I only use my system for gaming.

It'll be fine. But you wont really see that much benefit if you're only gaming 

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Just now, Mista G said:

 

From what I can see the 13600K is only about 14% faster than a 12400F, this is according to techpowerup website.

 

I'm running a 1440p setup with a 6800 XT so not sure it's worth the extra cost for the expense?

Depends on what you're doing. TPU used a standard 10gb 3080 for games testing, so it's limited to that. It will be different for a 6800XT, but it should be pretty close with the 6800XT being slightly faster, so there should be a larger gap in between.

 

If you were to consider future GPU upgrades, then you should take a look at the 1080p or 720p data, which might give you a peek at what a stronger GPU might look like.

 

Personally, I moved from an overclocked 10900KF to a 13700KF and the butt dyno in games does not reflect an $800 improvement. It's noticeable in some games I play, but in those scenarios the difference isn't really useful (hanging around towns in FF14) and otherwise not perceivable without sensors or a benchmark. And the 12400F is pretty close in gaming performance to a 10900K.

 

The only reason I bought it was that I was a sucker for new parts, I kind of wanted PCIE4/5, and my kids can use my old parts so nothing is ever wasted.

 

If you don't have a need for another system, it's not worth upgrading just for games.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

If you dont have a super high end graphics card I doubt the switch would make any difference. Most reviews for the 13600k took the Nvidia RTX 4090 as the GPU, not exactly a common pairing for actual buyers.

Exactly and 1080p.

 

3 minutes ago, ShawtyT30beTHICCC said:

It'll be fine. But you wont really see that much benefit if you're only gaming 

That's what I'm thinking?

 

2 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

Depends on what you're doing. TPU used a standard 10gb 3080 for games testing, so it's limited to that. It will be different for a 6800XT, but it should be pretty close with the 6800XT being slightly faster, so there should be a larger gap in between.

 

If you were to consider future GPU upgrades, then you should take a look at the 1080p or 720p data, which might give you a peek at what a stronger GPU might look like.

 

Personally, I moved from an overclocked 10900KF to a 13700KF and the butt dyno in games does not reflect an $800 improvement. It's noticeable in some games I play, but in those scenarios the difference isn't really useful (hanging around towns in FF14) and otherwise not perceivable without sensors or a benchmark. And the 12400F is pretty close in gaming performance to a 10900K.

 

The only reason I bought it was that I was a sucker for new parts, I kind of wanted PCIE4/5, and my kids can use my old parts so nothing is ever wasted.

 

If you don't have a need for another system, it's not worth upgrading just for games.

 

 

Snap and the excuse of passing my components down the line, so a mirror of your usage basis.

 

Think I'll stick with the 12400F and 6800 XT as I'm getting great FPS at 1440p in all games I play currently.

 

Thanks for all the feedback folks, appreciate it!

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3 minutes ago, Mista G said:

Exactly and 1080p.

 

That's what I'm thinking?

 

Snap and the excuse of passing my components down the line, so a mirror of your usage basis.

 

Think I'll stick with the 12400F and 6800 XT as I'm getting great FPS at 1440p in all games I play currently.

 

Thanks for all the feedback folks, appreciate it!

It's funny because immediately as my son brought in the new parts from the delivery...he was like, "I call dibs on your old stuff"

 

Sister didn't really give a shit, but it's funny.

 

Ultimately she still gets an upgrade as the whole stack shifts down.

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4 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

It's funny because immediately as my son brought in the new parts from the delivery...he was like, "I call dibs on your old stuff"

 

Sister didn't really give a shit, but it's funny.

 

Ultimately she still gets an upgrade as the whole stack shifts down.

 

Exactly the same in our household, complete mirror.

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3 hours ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

It's funny because immediately as my son brought in the new parts from the delivery...he was like, "I call dibs on your old stuff"

 

Sister didn't really give a shit, but it's funny.

 

Ultimately she still gets an upgrade as the whole stack shifts down.

 

Just managed to grab a 13600KF for £280! I can now pass on my 12400F.

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1 hour ago, Mista G said:

 

Just managed to grab a 13600KF for £280! I can now pass on my 12400F.

Congrats to you and your kid hahaha

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6 hours ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

Congrats to you and your kid hahaha

 

Hopefully the Noctua is up to the task at keeping this thing cool?

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6 hours ago, Mista G said:

 

Hopefully the Noctua is up to the task at keeping this thing cool?

 

Don't overthink it. Should be okay for gaming at least

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