Upgrade R5 1600 and which cooler for 155mm?

[ManemeJeff]

Hey I want to upgrade my 1600 as it has been 5 years. Rtx 2060

MAINBOARD Msi B350 Pc Mate

 

My budget for the CPU is low max 150€, I don't need anything fancy.

 

1) The 5600G looks like a good upgrade at 130€? (The non G version oddly enough costs 2€ more).

 

2) Which cooler to lower temperatures?My case only allows 155mm (sub some mm for clearance). Should I go AIO? But then an AIO could leak and drip onto my GPU and PSU which would be horrifying to think about.

 

Historically, does it make sense to wait for any november sale event or is 130€ already as long as it's probably going to get?

[CommanderAlex]

I would recommend upgrading the motherboard as the VRMs aren't really that good. You might be able to get away with a stock 5600G without PBO so if you had too, there's an option but I would not recommend doing so.

[Ottoman420]

5000 series cpu prices went up in uk after 7000 series was launched so i think the price will come down again for "sales" but i would deff choose the 5600 over the 5600g.

 

As for the cooler i would use whatever you are using at the momment for the 1600

[ManemeJeff]

5 minutes ago, CommanderAlex said:

I would recommend upgrading the motherboard as the VRMs aren't really that good. You might be able to get away with a stock 5600G without PBO so if you had too, there's an option but I would not recommend doing so.

I chose the 5000 series only because I wouldn't have to upgrade the mainboard for an extra 120€. Otherwise the choice would've been So 1700 b660 + 13600kf.

 

I do plan on using XMP, the VRMs are gonna be fine.........probably.....right?......right?

[191x7]

13 minutes ago, ManemeJeff said:

Hey I want to upgrade my 1600 as it has been 5 years. Rtx 2060

MAINBOARD Msi B350 Pc Mate

 

My budget for the CPU is low max 150€, I don't need anything fancy.

 

1) The 5600G looks like a good upgrade at 130€? (The non G version oddly enough costs 2€ more).

 

2) Which cooler to lower temperatures?My case only allows 155mm (sub some mm for clearance). Should I go AIO? But then an AIO could leak and drip onto my GPU and PSU which would be horrifying to think about.

 

Historically, does it make sense to wait for any november sale event or is 130€ already as long as it's probably going to get?

The 5600G is a lot weaker than the 5600 or 5600X. Because it has a Vega 8 graphics chip they had to cut some L3 cache.

Get the regular Ryzen 5 5600. It comes in a box with a cooler that can cool it just fine, but the cooler that you got with the 1600 might even be better.

[ManemeJeff]

8 minutes ago, Ottoman420 said:

5000 series cpu prices went up in uk after 7000 series was launched so i think the price will come down again for "sales" but i would deff choose the 5600 over the 5600g.

 

As for the cooler i would use whatever you are using at the momment for the 1600

Why the 5600 non g over the g variant? 

 

The g variant is cheaper and has an IGPU included? Wouldn't you want that extra?

Edited October 27, 2022 by ManemeJeff
explained by new answer just now

[ManemeJeff]

5 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

The 5600G is a lot weaker than the 5600 or 5600X. Because it has a Vega 8 graphics chip they had to cut some L3 cache.

Get the regular Ryzen 5 5600. It comes in a box with a cooler that can cool it just fine, but the cooler that you got with the 1600 might even be better.

Thank you, I looked around on the internet but couldn't find any reason as to why the 5600G was cheaper/ish.

This changes it then. 5600 it is.

 

I will probably use the 5600 boxed cooler because I'll gift the 1600 + cooler. I mean the difference can't be that big.

An Aftermarket cooler could also lower noise

[CommanderAlex]

3 minutes ago, ManemeJeff said:

I chose the 5000 series only because I wouldn't have to upgrade the mainboard for an extra 120€. Otherwise the choice would've been So 1700 b660 + 13600kf.

 

I do plan on using XMP, the VRMs are gonna be fine.........probably.....right?......right?

Of course it's supported, but does it mean it's recommended?? Not really. Place some fans aimed at the VRMs on the motherboard and a 5600(x) will be a better choice, as previously explained already. It'll help cool the VRMs. 

[ManemeJeff]

5 minutes ago, CommanderAlex said:

Of course it's supported, but does it mean it's recommended?? Not really. Place some fans aimed at the VRMs on the motherboard and a 5600(x) will be a better choice, as previously explained already. It'll help cool the VRMs. 

I have a fan at the top for exhaust. I could flip it around to push air lightly onto/downwards against VRMs.

 

Though hot air rises, I don't know how clever it would be to go against that.

Perhaps an exhaust fan at the back/near the I/O panel.

[CommanderAlex]

1 minute ago, ManemeJeff said:

I have a fan at the top for exhaust. I could flip it around to lightly push air in/downwards against VRMs.

 

Though hot air rises, I don't know how clever it would be to go against that.

Perhaps an exhaust fan at the back/near the I/O panel.

That's good too. 

 

The convection properties inside a case with fans moving air in are diminished. Basically, you'll never see the concept of heat rises inside your case. What case do you have? You really do not need an AIO for a 5600 at all. 

[ManemeJeff]

6 minutes ago, CommanderAlex said:

That's good too. 

 

The convection properties inside a case with fans moving air in are diminished. Basically, you'll never see the concept of heat rises inside your case. What case do you have? You really do not need an AIO for a 5600 at all. 

ThermalTake Versa C23. I placedhalf ziptied/half-screwed a fan at the front to to draw fresh cold air from the bottom and combs +

placed the included ThermalTake fan at the top as mentioned (exhaust) +

placed an arctic silent 3? T3? at the back of the case as an exhaust.

 

To prevent positive air flow? turbolence?: The front is running at higher rpm while the top aka smaller exhaust fan is running the slowest out of the 3 fans (it's kind of nois anyway).

 

[CommanderAlex]

4 minutes ago, ManemeJeff said:

ThermalTake Versa C23. I half ziptied/half-screwed a fan at the front to draw fresh cold air from the bottom and combs +

placed the included ThermalTake fan at the top as mentioned (exhaust) +

placed an arctic silent 3? T3? at the back of the case as an exhaust.

 

To prevent positive air flow? turbolence?: The front is running at higher rpm while the top aka smaller exhaust fan is running the slowest out of the 3 fans (it's kind of nois anyway).

 

Oof ok, not the best case in terms of airflow due to the panel in the front restricting airflow. Definitely have one exhaust fan at the rear of the case. Revert the top fan to intake from exhaust. 

 

Ideally, you want positive pressure in the case to reduce dust accumulation and move more air into the case than what is going out to cool components. You can run the intakes at a higher RPM than the exhaust.