Gpu Watts requirement 850, but I only have 650w

[O_Bsnacks]

33 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

If the 319 is too long to fit in your case, but the red devil will, it would make sense to go with the red devil. There's only 20mm difference though. 

What case are you trying to fit this into?

AMD didn't have nearly as bad of transient spikes as Nvidia, and Nvidias were even largely solved with drivers (465.55). That PSU is tier A. I run my 6800 xt off a tier A SFF 600W Corsair with a 12900k. I'd be comfortable running your set up on the 650W. Worst case, you get shut downs and know you need the 850W. 

The reason it doesn’t fit is because I have a liquid cooler and the tubing gets in the way. I have a Corsair 275R (It’s a bad case, need a new one)

[IkeaGnome]

2 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

The reason it doesn’t fit is because I have a liquid cooler and the tubing gets in the way. I have a Corsair 275R (It’s a bad case, need a new one)

Assuming you're using a 280mm or 360mm aio and can't top mount your AIO, if the 319 doesn't fit it doesn't fit. Would 20mm make the difference though? It's a lot less of a difference than you might think. If you're America, it's about 3/4 inch. A person could use a piece of cardboard, make it the length of the red devil and make sure tubes would clear before you went through the process of returning the gpu for another that might not fit still. If the 20mm isn't enough of a difference then you know you need a much shorter card, new case, or different AIO with longer tubes. 

[O_Bsnacks]

42 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Assuming you're using a 280mm or 360mm aio and can't top mount your AIO, if the 319 doesn't fit it doesn't fit. Would 20mm make the difference though? It's a lot less of a difference than you might think. If you're America, it's about 3/4 inch. A person could use a piece of cardboard, make it the length of the red devil and make sure tubes would clear before you went through the process of returning the gpu for another that might not fit still. If the 20mm isn't enough of a difference then you know you need a much shorter card, new case, or different AIO with longer tubes. 

Thank you for the suggestions, I will try the cardboard method to see if it will fit so then instead of opening the box just to return it. 

[ewitte]

4 hours ago, Motifator said:

That's not how things work. A basic motherboard like that does not pull 100W, and you don't add up everything on top of each other tops.

HDDs pull the most power when they're spinning up, this is why you have staggered spin-up on server HW. SSDs also need to get up to peak load, and they won't consume that much power either...

you need some nonsensical load of programs taxing each and every component to pull 500W with that PC, in the configuration you spoke about.

It is a maximum ESTIMATE the point is it should NEVER go over that.  I put that the MB estimate was way high.  My computer in the signature when I had the 3080 (at 320W) was always under 600W (usually under 550w) from the UPS reading no matter how hard I pushed it.  If I dragged the slider all the way up on the GPU and overclocked it did hit about 660W.  He has a much lower power usage CPU and slightly less GPU power usage.  Which ironically puts him close to the 500ish W maximum I calculated out.  I added 25% because I don't like going close to the maximum.

[Motifator]

4 hours ago, ewitte said:

It is a maximum ESTIMATE the point is it should NEVER go over that.  I put that the MB estimate was way high.  My computer in the signature when I had the 3080 (at 320W) was always under 600W (usually under 550w) from the UPS reading no matter how hard I pushed it.  If I dragged the slider all the way up on the GPU and overclocked it did hit about 660W.  He has a much lower power usage CPU and slightly less GPU power usage.  Which ironically puts him close to the 500ish W maximum I calculated out.  I added 25% because I don't like going close to the maximum.

Again, it doesn't work like that. A basic B550 board with base components will NEVER pull 100W, you're making things up and you're comparing different parts to each other. You're also talking about WALL power and not POWER POWER... get what I mean? UPS will show how much you're pulling from plug.

The real issue with Focus units is the transient tidbits, again, this PC will never pull above 500W with a stock, limited BIOS. The whole powers are dependent on HOW AGGRESSIVE THE GPU BIOS IS.

That is the thing.

[ewitte]

18 hours ago, Motifator said:

Again, it doesn't work like that. A basic B550 board with base components will NEVER pull 100W, you're making things up and you're comparing different parts to each other

It is called OVERESTIMATION and ADDITION which DOES work like that.  

[Motifator]

1 minute ago, ewitte said:

It is called overestimation and addition.  Addition DOES work like that.

Except realistically you're creating an unrealistic scenario that will NEVER HAPPEN, period.

You don't add up everything to the max. Say you have a dual GPU machine of Crossfire old day flavor, the second card will always be, in games - pulling less power. It will be loaded less, scaled less, taxed less... therefore pull less power. Up to 50W less easily. Seriously, go do your research before you come up with empty statements like this.