help needed with selecting parts

[Deadman_walking]

hi there as the title suggests i require help, essentially i have a max budget of 1500 to build a pc with the only site i can buy parts being scorptec.

if it helps I'm looking for a mid - high range Rysen system in Australia I'm fine with a gpu that's at least a 2000's card. also, I'm looking to build this pc and not buy a prebuilt

[DutchGreen]

CPU: UserBenchmark: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X vs Intel Core i7-11700K   = ~$325

GPU: UserBenchmark: AMD RX 6800-XT vs Nvidia RTX 3080             = ~$700-800

MOBO:   INTEL CPU: Asus TUF Gaming Z590-Plus WIFI                    = ~$200

               AMD CPU: Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (Wi-Fi)

Cooler:  Any good quality AIO that tickles your fancy, do some research.  = ~$100
PSU: Cooler Master V750 GOLD-V2                                                          = ~$100
RAM: Patriot Memory DDR4 Viper Steel 3600Mhz CL14                           = ~$100

Casing: Any midi-tower with good airflow, aesthetics and price.                = ~$80-200

 

TOTAL:                                                                                                      = ~$1700

 

This is a little over what you wanted. Also, spend a few hundred bucks on SSD/NVMe's.

It'll cost a little more but will get you ready for 4k60fps gaming on highest settings.

EDIT: When getting an NVMe, I recommend 'Kingston KC3000 2TB M.2 SSD'

 

P.S. I took local prices (which was in Euro's), so prices may differ considerably.

[Pixelfie]

Cooler can be removed to save some money, as the CPU comes with one

 

Edit: missed the part where you said you're buying from Scorptec. Take a look at Marius' list, I'm assuming that will be cheaper.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($239.00 @ Amazon Australia) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 2 CPU Cooler  ($35.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($169.00 @ JW Computers) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($77.00 @ JW Computers) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.00 @ PCByte) 
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX6700XT CLP 12GO Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($649.00 @ Centre Com) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($129.00 @ BPC Technology) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Whisper M 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.00 @ Scorptec) 
Total: $1506.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-10-18 19:39 AEDT+1100

Edited October 18, 2022 by Pixelfie

[Pixelfie]

34 minutes ago, DutchGreen said:

CPU: UserBenchmark: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X vs Intel Core i7-11700K   = ~$325

GPU: UserBenchmark: AMD RX 6800-XT vs Nvidia RTX 3080             = ~$700-800

MOBO:   INTEL CPU: Asus TUF Gaming Z590-Plus WIFI                    = ~$200

               AMD CPU: Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (Wi-Fi)

Cooler:  Any good quality AIO that tickles your fancy, do some research.  = ~$100
PSU: Cooler Master V750 GOLD-V2                                                          = ~$100
RAM: Patriot Memory DDR4 Viper Steel 3600Mhz CL14                           = ~$100

Casing: Any midi-tower with good airflow, aesthetics and price.                = ~$80-200

 

TOTAL:                                                                                                      = ~$1700

 

This is a little over what you wanted. Also, spend a few hundred bucks on SSD/NVMe's.

It'll cost a little more but will get you ready for 4k60fps gaming on highest settings.

EDIT: When getting an NVMe, I recommend 'Kingston KC3000 2TB M.2 SSD'

 

P.S. I took local prices (which was in Euro's), so prices may differ considerably.

I really wouldn't recommend this.

 

First of all, Userbenchmark should not be used for comparing CPU's and GPU's. They will show anything is better than AMD. Just look at the text under the Ryzen 7000 stuff, it's just dumb.

 

Second of all they mentioned they live in Australia. €1 = $1.56 AUD which is a huge difference.

 

Why would you recommend 11th gen when 12th gen is out and 13th gen releases in 2 days? 11700F isn't good, and while Userbenchmark says it's better than the 5800X, it's actually worse. 5800X is a decent choice, but generally the 5700X or 12600K would be cheaper and not far off.

 

GPU's are good options.

 

Let me guess, you searched just Asus boards? They're not the same they were a few years ago. Sure, they still make great hardware, but their stuff is so expensive compared to others who offer the same quality for 2/3 of the price, not to mention bad customer support from Asus (not that Gigabyte or MSI is good). MSI A Pro or Gigabyte Gaming X series are really solid choices usually.

 

Good PSU, probably bad price.

 

3200mhz CL16 or 3600mhz CL18 is like half the price, and performance is not that different. Maybe like 5%.

 

Why would a good SSD help you get ready for 4k60 gaming? Even the cheapest SSD would be fine for that, just don't use an HDD when playing recent games.

[mariushm]

Here's a Scorptec only build... kinda similar to Pixelfie :

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/8DDMDq

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/8DDMDq

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($239.00 @ Scorptec)
Motherboard: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($159.00 @ Scorptec)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($79.00 @ Scorptec)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($82.00 @ Scorptec)
Video Card: MSI GAMING X Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($749.00 @ Scorptec)
Case: Silverstone FARA H1M PRO MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($79.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: BitFenix Whisper M 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.00 @ Scorptec)
Total: $1506.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-10-18 20:08 AEDT+1100

 

Using the stock cooler, you can buy later a better stock cooler.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 hour ago, Pixelfie said:

performance is not that different. Maybe like 5%.

More like 2%

 

Cas does basically nothing for latency atleast at that slow speed, maybe at higher speeds it matters more but at such slow 3600 speeds it wont even give a 1ns latency drop per drop in cas. Youd buy a kit like that to play around with benching since 3600 cl14 is a pretty solid bdie bin and ocs quite well, not like daily overclocks but the 2v+ 4133c12 shenanigans. Though basically useless for the normie that dont intend on pushing it very hard, especially the ones that just want decent daily ocs for decent daily performance gains (~7%) over normal 3200c16/3600c18 bins and not pushing absurd volts for benching shenanigans or maniacs that will do anything (i really mean anything) to push the most out of their system aka oc nuts like me =p  but i still wouldnt buy a bdie kit since ram oc at the oc nut level is mostly just for fun (bragging rights, best benchmark scores, etc.)

[DutchGreen]

2 hours ago, Pixelfie said:

I really wouldn't recommend this.

 

First of all, Userbenchmark should not be used for comparing CPU's and GPU's. They will show anything is better than AMD. Just look at the text under the Ryzen 7000 stuff, it's just dumb.

Yeah, you're probably right. I didn't know of a better alternative. Could've done a google search but I assumed OP would do some research either way.

 

2 hours ago, Pixelfie said:

Second of all they mentioned they live in Australia. €1 = $1.56 AUD which is a huge difference.

Yeah, mistake on my part. When I realized, I had already posted and was too lazy to edit. My bad.

 

2 hours ago, Pixelfie said:

Why would you recommend 11th gen when 12th gen is out and 13th gen releases in 2 days? 11700F isn't good, and while Userbenchmark says it's better than the 5800X, it's actually worse. 5800X is a decent choice, but generally the 5700X or 12600K would be cheaper and not far off.

Because both perform about the same and are in the exact same price range.

 

2 hours ago, Pixelfie said:

Let me guess, you searched just Asus boards? They're not the same they were a few years ago. Sure, they still make great hardware, but their stuff is so expensive compared to others who offer the same quality for 2/3 of the price, not to mention bad customer support from Asus (not that Gigabyte or MSI is good). MSI A Pro or Gigabyte Gaming X series are really solid choices usually.

Nope, I just like Asus boards, and they're not that much more expensive.

 

2 hours ago, Pixelfie said:

Good PSU, probably bad price.

Around 100 euro's here in The Netherlands. Great value for what you get.

 

2 hours ago, Pixelfie said:

3200mhz CL16 or 3600mhz CL18 is like half the price, and performance is not that different. Maybe like 5%.

Correct, but I assume he wants to OC. It's cheap to do, gives noticeable effects (at least in benchmarks) and cheap to mess up if you do.

It was probably a poor suggestion either way, though.

 

2 hours ago, Pixelfie said:

Why would a good SSD help you get ready for 4k60 gaming? Even the cheapest SSD would be fine for that, just don't use an HDD when playing recent games.

I was being vague. I meant spending the extra few hundred dollars would get him ready, not getting an SSD in particular.

[DutchGreen]

1 hour ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

More like 2%

 

Cas does basically nothing for latency atleast at that slow speed, maybe at higher speeds it matters more but at such slow 3600 speeds it wont even give a 1ns latency drop per drop in cas. Youd buy a kit like that to play around with benching since 3600 cl14 is a pretty solid bdie bin and ocs quite well, not like daily overclocks but the 2v+ 4133c12 shenanigans. Though basically useless for the normie that dont intend on pushing it very hard, especially the ones that just want decent daily ocs for decent daily performance gains (~7%) over normal 3200c16/3600c18 bins and not pushing absurd volts for benching shenanigans or maniacs that will do anything (i really mean anything) to push the most out of their system aka oc nuts like me =p  but i still wouldnt buy a bdie kit since ram oc at the oc nut level is mostly just for fun (bragging rights, best benchmark scores, etc.)

Which he will slowly turn into after I suggested he get a nice RAM kit.

You can see the evil in my intention now, can't you?

[Somerandomtechyboi]

41 minutes ago, DutchGreen said:

Which he will slowly turn into after I suggested he get a nice RAM kit.

You can see the evil in my intention now, can't you?

Is this sarcasm or something? Yea cant really tell

 

But seriously fast ram just doesnt matter much, its 3200 cl16, 3600 cl18, or straight to overclocking which can get you anywhere from a decent daily 1:1 if/gear 1 3800-4200 cl16/17 to ludicrous 5200+ desync if/gear 2shenanigans with high bin djrs or micron rev e

Heres 1520 ddr2 c7 2.38v 1gbit nanya d die on some extreem dark 1066c6 (these ics happen to clock very well), nice for bragging rights but seems like 775 just dont give a shit after 1000mhz or 1200mhz when i tested spi and wprime (nb bottleneck), now do you see my point of fast rams being uneccesary? Especially bins gated behind ram oc (useful only for overclocking with garbage stock xmp, any bdie bin and any 4000+ djr bin). 775 has ram tied to fsb but im only looking at performance, these do fine till about 1480mhz when the performance just drops like a rock for some reason, maybe something to do with subtimings or aida ram test being retarded idk

 

51 minutes ago, DutchGreen said:

Correct, but I assume he wants to OC. It's cheap to do, gives noticeable effects (at least in benchmarks) and cheap to mess up if you do.

It was probably a poor suggestion either way, though.

Not really cheap at that point if you are paying that much for a bdie bin. The secret route for ram oc that destroys normal bins and even some of the oc bins yet still being far cheaper would be buying bare pcb 2666 rams with specific ics, micron 8gbit rev e c9bjz preffered usually found on micron/crucial bare pcbs which is the highest bin out of all the other 2666c19 rev e bins capable of 4800+ (though itll do fine with normal oc, high freq is a PITA and that ddr2 is no different, spent a few days tuning the damn thing). 2666c19 bare pcbs are dirt cheap used and even here in indo theyre only like 17$ per 8gb stick, not bad for being in a developing country where the used market can be quite bad (ancient relics like the hd7870 being the same price as a used rx 460).

 

Not everyone wants to overclock, even if they do they may already be driven away by the things youd need to learn about doing ram oc properly and not being a retard and botching it by only tightening the useless primaries (trcd excluded on intel), timings is pretty simple, subtimings > primaries, ics you need to learn which ones to pick and its ocing quirks since bdie is overpriced for just daily usage, rev e needs low vttddr (~700mv) for proper high freq and running >1.6v (rev e dont seem to degrade with volt like bdie or djr but not advisable >1.7v vdimm due to imc very slight degradation potential), bad trfc, bad trcd capabilities, Pretty popular ic so its quite easy to find info on. For daily driving you can skip most of the oc hassle by just using a profile off the internet for your ram ic (microns are very consistent so very likely to plug and play aside from high freq >4400 shenanigans), oc profiles off the internet are gonna be the biggest help since for daily you just do minor adjustments or straight up plug and play but high freq you can use em as a reference and adjust according to your setup and ic binning

 

Yea i definitely took a somewhat deep dive into the ram oc rabbit hole and definitely not for everyone especially for ppl not extremely interested in ram oc aka oc nuts since theres quite alot of info on the internet and tons of different ram ics but likely extremely boring aside from oc nuts like me. Real reason i took a deep dive is likely something to do with my ddr2 only hitting pathetic 1150mhz with 6-6-6-14 2.1v, but also because cpu oc is stale af (building the cooling system is more fun, also just gotta find a good bin one for proper ocs, and its as simple as more vcore/cooling = more freq, nothing more to it aka b o r i n g) and ram oc has some absolutely insane headroom depending on the ic you pick

[DutchGreen]

26 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Is this sarcasm or something? Yea cant really tell

 

But seriously fast ram just doesnt matter much, its 3200 cl16, 3600 cl18, or straight to overclocking which can get you anywhere from a decent daily 1:1 if/gear 1 3800-4200 cl16/17 to ludicrous 5200+ desync if/gear 2shenanigans with high bin djrs or micron rev e

Heres 1520 ddr2 c7 2.38v 1gbit nanya d die on some extreem dark 1066c6 (these ics happen to clock very well), nice for bragging rights but seems like 775 just dont give a shit after 1000mhz or 1200mhz when i tested spi and wprime (nb bottleneck), now do you see my point of fast rams being uneccesary? Especially bins gated behind ram oc (useful only for overclocking with garbage stock xmp, any bdie bin and any 4000+ djr bin). 775 has ram tied to fsb but im only looking at performance, these do fine till about 1480mhz when the performance just drops like a rock for some reason, maybe something to do with subtimings or aida ram test being retarded idk

 

Not really cheap at that point if you are paying that much for a bdie bin. The secret route for ram oc that destroys normal bins and even some of the oc bins yet still being far cheaper would be buying bare pcb 2666 rams with specific ics, micron 8gbit rev e c9bjz preffered usually found on micron/crucial bare pcbs which is the highest bin out of all the other 2666c19 rev e bins capable of 4800+ (though itll do fine with normal oc, high freq is a PITA and that ddr2 is no different, spent a few days tuning the damn thing). 2666c19 bare pcbs are dirt cheap used and even here in indo theyre only like 17$ per 8gb stick, not bad for being in a developing country where the used market can be quite bad (ancient relics like the hd7870 being the same price as a used rx 460).

 

Not everyone wants to overclock, even if they do they may already be driven away by the things youd need to learn about doing ram oc properly and not being a retard and botching it by only tightening the useless primaries (trcd excluded on intel), timings is pretty simple, subtimings > primaries, ics you need to learn which ones to pick and its ocing quirks since bdie is overpriced for just daily usage, rev e needs low vttddr (~700mv) for proper high freq and running >1.6v (rev e dont seem to degrade with volt like bdie or djr but not advisable >1.7v vdimm due to imc very slight degradation potential), bad trfc, bad trcd capabilities, Pretty popular ic so its quite easy to find info on. For daily driving you can skip most of the oc hassle by just using a profile off the internet for your ram ic (microns are very consistent so very likely to plug and play aside from high freq >4400 shenanigans), oc profiles off the internet are gonna be the biggest help since for daily you just do minor adjustments or straight up plug and play but high freq you can use em as a reference and adjust according to your setup and ic binning

 

Yea i definitely took a somewhat deep dive into the ram oc rabbit hole and definitely not for everyone especially for ppl not extremely interested in ram oc aka oc nuts since theres quite alot of info on the internet and tons of different ram ics but likely extremely boring aside from oc nuts like me. Real reason i took a deep dive is likely something to do with my ddr2 only hitting pathetic 1150mhz with 6-6-6-14 2.1v, but also because cpu oc is stale af (building the cooling system is more fun, also just gotta find a good bin one for proper ocs, and its as simple as more vcore/cooling = more freq, nothing more to it aka b o r i n g) and ram oc has some absolutely insane headroom depending on the ic you pick

You see my point on it becoming an addiction though.

[FINRaver]

Hi.

 

Its been long time (+10 years) since I last time build computer so I wanted to check if im not totally lost with my current parts that im planning to get. Its coming for 1440p gaming.

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S redux 70.75 CFM CPU Cooler

Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard

Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

GPU: Depends what i can snipe from used market / get good price from store after RX 7000 series launch (had 3070 or 6750xt in my mind)

Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 GT 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

 

Total cost ~920€ (+GPU) in Finland.

[DutchGreen]

27 minutes ago, FINRaver said:

Hi.

 

Its been long time (+10 years) since I last time build computer so I wanted to check if im not totally lost with my current parts that im planning to get. Its coming for 1440p gaming.

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S redux 70.75 CFM CPU Cooler

Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard

Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

GPU: Depends what i can snipe from used market / get good price from store after RX 7000 series launch (had 3070 or 6750xt in my mind)

Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 GT 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

 

Total cost ~920€ (+GPU) in Finland.

Looks good and for a nice price.