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[Tan3l6]

Memento!

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

On 11/21/2022 at 5:25 AM, Spotty said:

For me it's the 8th movie where they're outrunning the enemy ship and then there's the half hour dedicated to side characters nobody cares about riding CGI animals through a CGI backdrop of a casino while giving a lecture to the audience, all which actually ends up doing nothing to progress the plot. Honourable mention goes to the 9th film for the ending/'twist' and basically just giving Rey whatever super power and plot armour she needs to get through any situation.

 

I can't stand the new Disney Star Wars movies.... Rey is such a Mary Sue it nauseates me. No coherent plot, no stakes, they're AWFUL. Episode IV, V, and VI are so good too, it's depressing how bad the new ones are. Rogue one was okay

[Radium_Angel]

5 minutes ago, Deadpool2onBlu-Ray said:

no stakes

And therein lies the issue with a lot of modern films (look at some of the latest Vin Diesel films by way of example)

we all know no one is gonna die, so there is no tension to be had.

Or, it's a prequel to a film and we know they can't die

Or is a prequel to a film where the character is ALREADY dead, and then why should we bother to watch it?

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

6 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

And therein lies the issue with a lot of modern films (look at some of the latest Vin Diesel films by way of example)

we all know no one is gonna die, so there is no tension to be had.

Or, it's a prequel to a film and we know they can't die

Or is a prequel to a film where the character is ALREADY dead, and then why should we bother to watch it?

Hollywood does not like taking "Risks" anymore, it sucks. Thank god superhero frenzy is ending. I love me some Marvel as much as the next guy but it's time for good original films again.

 

Here's hoping "Oppenheimer" later this summer does well. That's the first new IP mega budget film to come out for quite awhile

[Radium_Angel]

12 minutes ago, Deadpool2onBlu-Ray said:

Thank god superhero frenzy is ending.

Are you certain about that?

There are 29 Billion (dollars) reasons why more will be made...yes the hardcore among us are getting tired of them, but the casuals (and Overseas...don't forget them) have yet to.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

And therein lies the issue with a lot of modern films (look at some of the latest Vin Diesel films by way of example)

we all know no one is gonna die, so there is no tension to be had.

Or, it's a prequel to a film and we know they can't die

Or is a prequel to a film where the character is ALREADY dead, and then why should we bother to watch it?

Fast and furious is about family, cars, and explosions. 

 

2 hours ago, Deadpool2onBlu-Ray said:

Hollywood does not like taking "Risks" anymore, it sucks. Thank god superhero frenzy is ending. I love me some Marvel as much as the next guy but it's time for good original films again.

I like the marvel movies because there's a minimum level of "not shit" to them. 

 

Some vary in quality depending. The new ones are more miss than hit. Multiverse of madness; love and thunder... Despite being about my favorite heroes. They were 2~3/5. 

 

If you're lurking and haven't seen the following kids movies, they're good:

The bad guys

Light-year

Puss in boots (the new one about the wish)

 

I dislike that puss in boots took the anime style inspiration "the bad guys" used because it made me dissy. I think the animation style is great for expressiveness but I think the animators took inspiration without knowing how to refine it properly. Something about how they used the low frame rate.

I hope that IF more western animation movies take anime style inspiration, they make it good and really quadruple check its quality. 

 

 

I think a big problem with Hollywood is how popular anime is. 

I think taking anime tropes and putting them into mature adult live action movies is jarring. 

Over explaining. Over emotion. Over the top character abilities. 

There are good parts of anime. Like I said, some of the expression in the animation style in "the bad guys" is great and really fresh. But when implemented poorly like in some sequences in puss in boots, it's jarring. 

 

I find anime to be a huge shift in culture and inspiration. It used to be frowned upon for characters to explain how they feel and considered amateur. But anime has major monologues about emotion. 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

Light year does have a "diversity checklist" so to speak but it's so in the background, you'd potentially miss it. 

You'll know it when you see it. 

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

8 hours ago, fpo said:

You'll know it when you see it.

I have no issues with a diverse cast, but it bothers me when people are there just to be a tick on a checklist. With nearly anything produced by Disney these days, that's more or less how it feels. I would much rather have a diverse cast of characters that are there because the characters are diverse, not because there's a diversity quota to be met.

 

8 hours ago, fpo said:

Fast and furious is about family, cars, and explosions.

I see F&F kind of as just dumb fun. They're ridiculous action movies, and I don't mind watching them for that reason. I definitely don't think they're bad movies, but I also would not say they're particularly great. But if you want fast cars, explosions, and family, that's the franchise for you.

 

Dumb fun is definitely a genre that needs to exist. I'm willing to suspend my disbelief just to watch neat sequences of action, that's more or less what I watch Mission Impossible movies for. As much as I love John Wick, I'm not going to say that every action movie or franchise has to be John Wick-level good. It certainly helps, but I was fully prepared to turn off The Meg part of the way through(went in thinking it would be bad) but I just enjoyed it the whole way.

 

8 hours ago, fpo said:

I like the marvel movies because there's a minimum level of "not shit" to them. 

 

Some vary in quality depending. The new ones are more miss than hit. Multiverse of madness; love and thunder... Despite being about my favorite heroes. They were 2~3/5.

I like the older Marvel movies. It's not often that I subject myself to anything that came out after Age of Ultron. I don't even know most of what's gone on in Marvel since Endgame(I loved the beginning of Endgame, but it felt like a steady downhill ride after the first couple scenes). Guardians of The Galaxy 3 is the first Marvel movie in years that I've even considered watching.

 

Disney really does just love ruining IPs.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

 

I like the older Marvel movies. It's not often that I subject myself to anything that came out after Age of Ultron. I don't even know most of what's gone on in Marvel since Endgame(I loved the beginning of Endgame, but it felt like a steady downhill ride after the first couple scenes). Guardians of The Galaxy 3 is the first Marvel movie in years that I've even considered watching.

I'm surprised... 

Ragnarok, infinity war, and end game are imo the best 3 marvel movies. 

But I also missed a number. 

End game, yeah I can see not liking that one. 

The memes were fantastic. 

7 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Disney really does just love ruining IPs.

Psychopathic tendencies haha. 

Only private companies are really capable of art anymore. 

 

Investors and executives are a cancer. 

[Radium_Angel]

9 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I would much rather have a diverse cast of characters that are there because the characters are diverse, not because there's a diversity quota to be met.

So much this. When the original Alien script was being written, the characters were not written with a gender/ethnicity in mind, because the writers wanted to concentrate on the story, and let that issue sort itself out later. Wehn "diversity" is done right, you don't notice it, it's when a check box is involved, that it becomes an issue.

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

9 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

 As much as I love John Wick, I'm not going to say that every action movie or franchise has to be John Wick-level good. It certainly helps, but I was fully prepared to turn off The Meg part of the way through(went in thinking it would be bad) but I just enjoyed it the whole way.

 

I like the older Marvel movies. It's not often that I subject myself to anything that came out after Age of Ultron. I don't even know most of what's gone on in Marvel since Endgame(I loved the beginning of Endgame, but it felt like a steady downhill ride after the first couple scenes). Guardians of The Galaxy 3 is the first Marvel movie in years that I've even considered watching.

 

John wick is GOATED, all four are good, but I am not as high on the most recent one as most. IMO, it goes 3 > 1 > 4 > 2  That scene in 3 with the axes/knives etc. when john makes his own gun is "chefs kiss".

 

And I agree about the Marvel movie thing.

 

Marvel Movie Tier List IMO (none of the recent ones are any good unfortunately).

 

Own tier- Deadpool 1 ( if we count that as a Marvel movie) > Tier 1- Captain America Winter Soldier > The Avengers > Tier 1A- Avengers Infinity War > Guardians Vol. 1 > Thor Ragnarok  >>>>> (huge drop off) > Tier 2- Iron Man OG > Captain America First Avenger > Deadpool 2 (if we count as Marvel Movie) > Captain America Civil War > Tier 3- Avengers Endgame > Doctor Strange > Ant-Man > Spider-Man: No Way Home > Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings > Black Panther > Guardians Vol. 2 > Tier 4- Avengers: Age of Ultron > Iron Man 2 > Black Panther: Wakanda Forever > Spider Man: Homecoming > Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness > Ant Man & The Wasp > Spider Man: Far From Home > Captain Marvel> TBD/Haven't Seen Tier- Black Widow/Ant Man Quantumania/ Guardians Vol 3/Thor Love & Thunder > Dogshit tier- Thor > Iron Man 3 > The Incredible Hulk > Mega Dogshit Tier- Eternals >Thor: The Dark World

[Radium_Angel]

1 hour ago, Deadpool2onBlu-Ray said:

(if we count as Marvel Movie)

I'm not deep into the legend and lore of these films, why would you not count it as a Marvel flick?

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

2 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

I'm not deep into the legend and lore of these films, why would you not count it as a Marvel flick?

Because it is technically a Fox Movie. Disney/Marvel Studios purchased Fox in 2021ish and now the next Deadpool flick is an "official" MCU/Disney "Marvel Movie".

[Tan3l6]

Annihilation ( 2018 ) is good also...

[Spotty]

1 minute ago, Deadpool2onBlu-Ray said:

Disney/Marvel Studios purchased Fox in 2021ish

Did they? Just when I thought Disney had run out of IP/franchises to ruin.

Apparently the early reviews for Indiana Jones are not good.

 

Just now, Tan3l6 said:

Annihilation ( 2018 ) is good also...

It looked pretty but I didn't think it had much substance to it.

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

5 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Did they? Just when I thought Disney had run out of IP/franchises to ruin.

Apparently the early reviews for Indiana Jones are not good.

 

It looked pretty but I didn't think it had much substance to it.

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/20/705009029/disney-officially-owns-21st-century-fox

[Tan3l6]

13 hours ago, Spotty said:

It looked pretty but I didn't think it had much substance to it.

In my opinion the ending quite surprising... looked good also. There are so few basically all female-cast movies that actually are good by the way. Don't know any tbh besides that one.

 

[Radium_Angel]

29 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Apparently the early reviews for Indiana Jones are not good.

Name me a film, that is the 5th in a franchise...that IS good.

(but yeah, I'm not surprised, how old is HF these days? a little long in the tooth to be darting around the world as Indy)

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

Name me a film, that is the 5th in a franchise...that IS good.

It really does seem like franchises tend to go downhill around that time. Personally, I like Mission Impossible 1, 5, and 6 the most.

 

Depending on which way you go with Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back(episode 5) is easily one of the best in the franchise.

[Spotty]

20 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

In my opinion the ending quite surprising... loooked good also. There are so few basically all female-cast movies that actually are good by the way. Don't know any tbh besides that one.

Kill Bill is good. Alien.

I think decent movies with a mostly female cast really varies depending on the genre. There's not much in the sci-fi/action genre but if you look at more teen romcom comedy genres or historical dramas there's many more. Mean Girls, Clueless, The Help. Movies with a mostly female cast do seem to be more aimed at a mostly female audience, which normally isn't sci-fi/action films. You do have some where they've taken an existing movie and swapped the characters to female like Oceans 8 and Ghostbusters but those are probably best left forgotten. There's original films with female casts like Mad Money and Set it Off which are bank heist movies that's traditionally more of a male lead genre but those are not great movies.

 

1 minute ago, Radium_Angel said:

Name me a film, that is the 5th in a franchise...that IS good.

(but yeah, I'm not surprised, how old is HF these days? a little long in the tooth to be darting around the world as Indy)

Fast 5? I do think that Fast 5 set the formula for the following films in the franchise, where before it was a bit mix matched all over the place with Fast & Furious not having Vin Diesel and Tokyo Drift not having any of the original cast.

Star Wars Episode V Empire Strikes back is technically the 5th in the franchise?? Though even if you count the 5th film as Episode II Attack of the Clones it's still not as bad as the more recent films in the Star Wars franchise.

I'm not sure what the 5th Marvel superhero movie was but it was probably good.

 

With Indiana Jones I only liked the first film. I didn't like Temple of Doom. The last crusade was okay but the franchise should have ended there. It's amazing that the franchise wasn't dead and buried after Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Harrison Ford is 80 years old. He was too old to play Indiana Jones in 2008 yet they dusted him off out of whatever nursing home he was in for another film 15 years later.

[Crunchy Dragon]

6 minutes ago, Spotty said:

I'm not sure what the 5th Marvel superhero movie was but it was probably good.

 

From the start of the MCU, that would have been the first Avengers movie, I think.

 

7 minutes ago, Spotty said:

With Indiana Jones I only liked the first film. I didn't like Temple of Doom. The last crusade was okay but the franchise should have ended there.

Raiders is definitely my favorite, followed by Last Crusade.

 

Really a shame they stopped making Indiana Jones movies, he's one of my favorite characters in cinema.

[Guest]

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Okay it didn't...

 

This one? 

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[Lenovich]

I reccomend Cranes are flying 1957 cinematography masterpiece. Emotional, romantic. Perfect new movie wave before new wave exists.

 

You can ask me about any Soviet/Russian movie recomendation in any genre you like. 

[Radium_Angel]

2 hours ago, Lenovich said:

Soviet/Russian

sci-fi/horror where the translations are accurate (I speak/read a little Russian, and the movies I've seen have had atrocious translations) 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Radium_Angel said:

sci-fi/horror where the translations are accurate (I speak/read a little Russian, and the movies I've seen have had atrocious translations) 

Should I watch stalker 1979 with subtitles or learn Russian? 

 

So, general discussion...

I saw:

Puss in boots the last wish

The lone ranger (Johnny Depp is in it)

The jungle cruise

And maybe some other stuff...

 

I think I said the new puss in boots movie is pretty good. 

The lone ranger is a great comedy imo. I think it might be a movie you can only see once though. So make sure you see it with movie enthusiasts or alone imo. 

 

The jungle cruise is... Well it's a teen movie so you can take it that way and be cool with it. 

The first third of the movie is imo stupid ish. You'll immediately know what you're in for for the first third when you start watching it. After that, I think the movie gets better. Still more a 2/5. So like if it's on, it might be worth your time to just watch it. I wouldn't say it's a "let's see jungle cruise!" 

 

Spoiler ish... Think of it like spoiling pirates of the Caribbean type movie. 

Spoiler

I was also in Germany (saw all the movies in fight movies) and so I noticed "another movie where the bad guy is German... How fun"

 

I feel like there were some movies I was planning to see but I forgot what they were. 

I saw one movie called the devil wears Prada. I'm Curious if that was worth seeing. 

One of my favorite movies is district 9, but I'm able to get into movies like West side story even so like... If it's a good movie it's a good movie. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

4 minutes ago, fpo said:

Should I watch stalker 1979 with subtitles or learn Russian?

Do you want to watch a movie or spend months learning a language?

I've been learning Russian on and off for the last 3 years, and I think the only conversations I could carry in Russian would be those of a drunk person who is upset and hungry.

5 minutes ago, fpo said:

Well it's a teen movie so you can take it that way and be cool with it. 

I feel like teen movies don't mean what they used to mean. I hear "teen movie" and my mind jumps to Marty McFly and Ferris Bueller before anything else. Not sure anything made in the last 30-40 years really counts as a teen movie anymore....