Need Help choosing GPU

[jlee1071]

Hey all, I am new here and need some help choosing a GPU. With prices finally levelling out, its time for me to get a GPU.

 

My current set up is

Ryzen 3 3200g Processor (may upgrade to 3600x or 5600x)

Asrock B450 HDV A/C mobo

16gb 3200mhz ram

1000w EVGA PSU (overkill I know lol...  I inherited this from my gf's brother)

GTX 1650 (also inherited)

 

My plans are to get the GPU first and then upgrade the CPU shortly after. My budget is no more than $600 Canadian dollars.

 

The ones I am looking at is

Zotac RTX 2060 12gb currently $429 CDN @ Canada Computers

MSI Gaming X RTX 3060 $569 CDN @ Canada Computers

Zotac RTX 3060ti AMP white @ $639 @ Canada Computers  (I know its a little out of the budget.)

 

The games I play are Cyber Punk 2077, PUBG, Valorant, GTA V, Fornite, I also stream occasionally.

Light video editing using Davinci and video editing using Adobe lightroom.

 

What CPU should I get? 3600x,5600x 3700x or 5800x?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

[RONOTHAN##]

14 minutes ago, jlee1071 said:

What CPU should I get? 3600x,5600x 3700x or 5800x?

If you get the 3600X used for really cheap, that's a solid option, but if not the 5600/5600X (they're the same CPU) is probably your best option. It is about 20% faster overall compared to the 3600X, roughly matches the 3700X in multi core stuff (slightly behind but barely), and is usually pretty cheap. Plus given how bad a VRM is present on your motherboard, I wouldn't necessarily trust it to run an 8 core or above without a fan pointed directly at the VRM. 

 

14 minutes ago, jlee1071 said:

The ones I am looking at is

Zotac RTX 2060 12gb currently $429 CDN @ Canada Computers

MSI Gaming X RTX 3060 $569 CDN @ Canada Computers

Zotac RTX 3060ti AMP white @ $639 @ Canada Computers  (I know its a little out of the budget.)

Is there a reason why you're only looking at Nvidia GPUs right now? AMD is currently much better in this current price bracket for price to performance, plus their drivers have a fair bit less overhead so you'll get even better performance while you've still only got the 3200G. 

 

The RX 6600 XT, for example, is between a 3060 and 3060 Ti in performance, but is currently the same price as the 2060 at Newegg right now after a Mail in Rebate

https://www.newegg.ca/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-xt-rx6600xt-pgd-8g/p/N82E16814930064?Item=N82E16814930064&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-CAN&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-CAN&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fca.pcpartpicker.com%2f&ranMID=44589&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-hXyLg9.T9GF.vHp_MwF1iw

 

With that 6600 XT and an R5 5600 (non-X) you would be just $50 over budget for just the GPU. It's really the best option. 

 

If you really need a Nvidia card for whatever reason, the 3060 Ti is the option I'd want, there isn't that huge a performance jump from the 2060 12GB to 3060, but the performance difference between 3060 and 3060 Ti is pretty large without much of a price just as well. Yeah it's out of the budget, but it's also well worth the price increase. 

[jlee1071]

8 hours ago, RONOTHAN## said:

If you get the 3600X used for really cheap, that's a solid option, but if not the 5600/5600X (they're the same CPU) is probably your best option. It is about 20% faster overall compared to the 3600X, roughly matches the 3700X in multi core stuff (slightly behind but barely), and is usually pretty cheap. Plus given how bad a VRM is present on your motherboard, I wouldn't necessarily trust it to run an 8 core or above without a fan pointed directly at the VRM. 

 

Is there a reason why you're only looking at Nvidia GPUs right now? AMD is currently much better in this current price bracket for price to performance, plus their drivers have a fair bit less overhead so you'll get even better performance while you've still only got the 3200G. 

 

The RX 6600 XT, for example, is between a 3060 and 3060 Ti in performance, but is currently the same price as the 2060 at Newegg right now after a Mail in Rebate

https://www.newegg.ca/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-xt-rx6600xt-pgd-8g/p/N82E16814930064?Item=N82E16814930064&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-CAN&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-CAN&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fca.pcpartpicker.com%2f&ranMID=44589&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-hXyLg9.T9GF.vHp_MwF1iw

 

With that 6600 XT and an R5 5600 (non-X) you would be just $50 over budget for just the GPU. It's really the best option. 

 

If you really need a Nvidia card for whatever reason, the 3060 Ti is the option I'd want, there isn't that huge a performance jump from the 2060 12GB to 3060, but the performance difference between 3060 and 3060 Ti is pretty large without much of a price just as well. Yeah it's out of the budget, but it's also well worth the price increase. 

Oh thank you, the only reason why I want Nvidia, is I hear they better for video editing.

 

I am debating between the 2060 and the 3060ti at the moment, I think the 3060ti will hopefully last longer.

 

I found a 3600x for $150 CDN @ FB market place, not sure if thats a good price or not?

[DANK_AS_gay]

17 minutes ago, jlee1071 said:

Oh thank you, the only reason why I want Nvidia, is I hear they better for video editing.

 

I am debating between the 2060 and the 3060ti at the moment, I think the 3060ti will hopefully last longer.

 

I found a 3600x for $150 CDN @ FB market place, not sure if thats a good price or not?

You can find used 6600XTs for $300. No nVidia card used or new can beat that price to performance. A 2060 will be slower at video editing, and will cost the same used. It really is worth going AMD this generation in your price range.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325315229233?epid=7050209788&hash=item4bbe4c7631:g:FIAAAOSwt2JjBOcf&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoOZBySrmucKHQr7IAA4HT2UoFDhpkxCOKoXpjnNaYuMJCYPrwblE%2Fdx8DjwO0fV%2BmywRLleO%2BBFilsHENKwrYgQ41OyhviyQ%2BG047sjmFTNmtnYvJ8FazCEEAYP2jFn5D4RuYy8nCp3FNO9Ql5Y7BN3nE95nGUivC5omlJlRt%2Bd0eL2ppXuiT9JGMXCsfM0i6FhM4E8dSbnpEL%2FOcuyR1wg%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR6q52v3ZYA

$270 + free shipping, + free returns

2060s go for $270 as well. The 2060 is 15-30% slower depending on what you are doing and what games you are playing.

[RONOTHAN##]

3 hours ago, jlee1071 said:

Oh thank you, the only reason why I want Nvidia, is I hear they better for video editing.

 

I am debating between the 2060 and the 3060ti at the moment, I think the 3060ti will hopefully last longer.

 

I found a 3600x for $150 CDN @ FB market place, not sure if thats a good price or not?

Nvidia does have better driver support with Adobe stuff, yes, but it really depends on how much you plan on video editing. If it's just every once in a while the AMD card is fine. If it's every day, then yeah get a Nvidia card. If you do DaVinci Resolve every day and very occasionally use Light room, still get the AMD card, Resolve behaves just fine with AMD Gpus, only Adobe stuff really has issues. 

 

That's not really a good enough price for the 3600X to make sense. A 5600 is 20% faster and is currently only $60 more, well worth the price increase. I'd only get a 3600X if it's ~$100 or less. 

[jlee1071]

The video editing part is mainly for my gf’s YouTube channel, her channel is growing rapidly and I am to help with the editing, Ideally I want something that will work well with creative applications. 

 

I done some research on the 6600XT other than Ray Tracing what other differences are there?

[jlee1071]

On 8/24/2022 at 11:52 AM, RONOTHAN## said:

That's not really a good enough price for the 3600X to make sense. A 5600 is 20% faster and is currently only $60 more, well worth the price increase. I'd only get a 3600X if it's ~$100 or less. 

I found a 3800x for $220 Canadian which is rougly $170 USD. Do you think that is a good deal?

[RONOTHAN##]

Just now, jlee1071 said:

I found a 3800x for $220 Canadian which is rougly $170 USD. Do you think that is a good deal?

The R5 5600 is about the same price new and is just an overall better CPU, especially for a gaming rig. That CPU is about ~$50 too much 

[jlee1071]

23 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

The R5 5600 is about the same price new and is just an overall better CPU, especially for a gaming rig. That CPU is about ~$50 too much 

Thank you for your input. This Rig is going to focused on video production to be honest, so wouldn't more cores be better for that? I agree the 5600x is a great CPU for gaming.

 

 

[RONOTHAN##]

Just now, jlee1071 said:

Thank you for your input. This Rig is going to focused on video production to be honest, so wouldn't more cores be better for that? I agree the 5600x is a great CPU for gaming.

 

 

Video production can take advantage of more cores, yes, but multi core performance is still what actually matters for performance. The 5600 is actually about the same performance in multi core benchmarks as the 3800X. It doesn't make sense to spend that kind of money on a used CPU that's matched by a chip new, and loses out in a lot of situations. Hence why I said that 3800X is about $50 too expensive. If you can talk the guy down a bit, then yeah consider it, but if you paid full price you'd be losing out on a warranty, be taking a risk like you would with any used hardware, and be getting a CPU without much of an advantage of the new chip for the same price.

[SchmokeyDokey]

Get the 5800x in terms of CPU, it's probably one of the best gaming CPU's money can buy so it's worth the upgrade and also it's dependent on what type of games you're going to be playing but the 2060 is a great card and I have one in my daily driver. I only use 1440p typically so this for Me is perfectly fine.
If you're looking for something a bit more focused on like 4K gaming then I'd go for the 3060ti, even though it's slightly out of your budget, that extra spent is actually really worth it for the comparisons of 4K and ray traced gaming if that's what you're after. 
I saw also some people recommending 6600XT etcetc, which are good cards but (don't @ Me lol)  DLSS is much better at improving your frame rates in my opinion, just based on the multiple different cards i've tried lol.

[jlee1071]

On 8/27/2022 at 9:43 PM, SchmokeyDokey said:

Get the 5800x in terms of CPU, it's probably one of the best gaming CPU's money can buy so it's worth the upgrade and also it's dependent on what type of games you're going to be playing but the 2060 is a great card and I have one in my daily driver. I only use 1440p typically so this for Me is perfectly fine.
If you're looking for something a bit more focused on like 4K gaming then I'd go for the 3060ti, even though it's slightly out of your budget, that extra spent is actually really worth it for the comparisons of 4K and ray traced gaming if that's what you're after. 
I saw also some people recommending 6600XT etcetc, which are good cards but (don't @ Me lol)  DLSS is much better at improving your frame rates in my opinion, just based on the multiple different cards i've tried lol.

 

That is the plan now, get the 5800x instead, now with 7000 series being launched soon *fingers crossed I can get the 5800x at around the $300 Canadian Range which is rougly $230 USD.

 

I am still torn between the 2060 and 3060ti, the 2060 went on sale, but the 3060ti kinda refuses to drop in price...

[Action_Johnson]

Unless there's something you totally need on Nvidia's end, I would definitely get a 6600XT over a 2060 or 3060. Even with this pricing crash, Nvidia's low-end hardware is still waaaaay overpriced. Like who would be dumb enough to spend $300 on an RTX 3050 when you can get a 6600XT for $250? 

[jlee1071]

An update:

 

Ending up scoring 3700x for $150 Canadian

and Asus Strix 1080ti for $250 CDN...

 

Spent much less than expected and happy with the performance

 

Now I might have to shop for a case, the NZXT H510 case I am using gets quite humid in there.